Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[red_power]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

[will]

Damn, we doing JRoy like that?

[Merit]

Who is smug?

TOR guys aren’t good enough to make POR a contender.

That’s not a knock on those guys, it’s a knock on a FO that has failed to build around Lillard and now given him a coach that couldn’t find his way out of a phone booth.

A starting 5 of Dame/Sharpe/OG/Pascal/Nurkic is deadly. One of Pascal or OG doesn’t shift the tide but both definitely do.

That's a title contender, no doubt. But JRoy doesn't want a contender.

Man it could be even better if POR goes into the tax and signs Grant

Dame/OG/Grant/Pascal/Nurkic is huge and talented. No idea who’s on the bench, but both on Portland at once definitely makes them a contender - even with Phoenix getting Beal.

[TorontoBarneys]

People are low on Miller for basketball reasons? Why?

Best shooter in the draft. Gets to the line at a high rate. Good FT shooter. Terrific rebounder. Plays good defense. Has size. Inspired to be a top level 2-way athlete in the league. What's not to like?

He's exactly what we need.

[Raptors Realtor]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

[Merit]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Doubtful that OG gets moved. Raps are looking for Sharpe and #3, so the 23 alone won’t cut it. If you replace Little with Sharpe maybe they consider it and move Simons elsewhere to recoup more draft capital. As it stands, it’s a no from me.

[Merit]

I'd personally still do the trade for Miller and extra. It's time to move on from this core

I’ll take the bird in the hand.

[ItsDanger]

What bothers me about all these trade rumors specifically Portland is that Raps players all slot into their proper roles with a clear #1 scorer like Dame. Most of Toronto's issues revolve around not having that #1 option which apparently has lowered the perceived value of guys like Siakam & OG. It's like people just judge from boxscores.

[red_power]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

With all due respect, I have to disagree with you. Simons was on an upward trajectory throughout his whole career and he might eventually make an all-star appearance in the next few years, especially in the east. While OG hasn't developed a bit over the last few years and I think it's safe to say he has already reached his peak level, which is actually not that impressive.
I think this would be a very generous offer from Blazers and the only reason they might offer this is because we are full of high-quality guards and need to overpay to close our positional needs.

[Merit]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Would you do Pascal/Thad/Flynn/future first for Dame?

[Tha Cynic]

How are you still allowed to post on this board?

Guys taking shots at my team don’t get to cry when I return fire.

Hey JRoy - a chip is a chip is a chip. Whether it was in ‘76 or vs. a burned out GSW dynasty.

Anyone who talks about injuries during championship years doesn't watch much NBA playoffs. Most teams who won go through teams who are missing significant pieces, including the Warriors and the LeBron James teams when they won. The fact that the Raptors were able to keep Leonard well enough to play that season was actually masterful and doesn't get talked about enough. Staying healthy is part of the process. The guy was dragging his legs around like like they were logs but was able to put up amazing performances because of our medical staff's work.

Anyone who actually followed the Raptors that season would know they had one of the best team defensive performances of all time in the playoffs and an all-time offensive performance from Leonard. Also the Warriors didn't win a single game against the Raptors at home on their own court. The series should have been over in 5 if it wasn't for the Raptors messing up game 5 late at home. It was a complete dismantling by the Raptors. They were on a mission that year.

[Merit]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

With all due respect, I have to disagree with you. Simons was on an upward trajectory throughout his whole career and he might eventually make an all-star appearance in the next few years, especially in the east. While OG has developed a bit over the last few years and I think it's safe to say he has already reached his peak level which is not that impressive.
I think this would be a very generous offer from Blazers and the only reason they might offer this is because we are full of high-quality guards and need to overpay to close our positional needs.

You’re overrating Simons and underrating OG.

[Syd-TK3]

I'd personally still do the trade for Miller and extra. It's time to move on from this core

I’ll take the bird in the hand.

I'm not a fan of birds

[TorontoBarneys]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Hell no.

[Mattatron]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

With all due respect, I have to disagree with you. Simons was on an upward trajectory throughout his whole career and he might eventually make an all-star appearance in the next few years, especially in the east. While OG hasn't developed a bit over the last few years and I think it's safe to say he has already reached his peak level, which is actually not that impressive.
I think this would be a very generous offer from Blazers and the only reason they might offer this is because we are full of high-quality guards and need to overpay to close our positional needs.

When og hasn't developed and already peaked, why do u want to trade for him for Simons which could become an all star in the next few years... that's a no from me. OG >>>> Simons, #23, Little

Guards you can find everywhere, guys like og don't hang on trees like apples.

[Los_29]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Not sure how much of an asset Simons is. I'm not sure this draft is considered deep, for me I'd prefer to have a bit more coming back. Obviously the 3rd pick is way too steep for a guy like OG, but some future picks would be nice for taking back Simons contract.

[Tha Cynic]

From what I have read, Lillard just sold his old house and had been building a mansion over the last few years. He has also reportedly said he wants to raise his kids in Oregon. He's probably just trying to force Portland to make win now moves but I don't think he would move regardless. He wants to be there. He would need to get seriously annoyed to demand a trade and Portland has been seriously annoying in how they built that team around him for years.

If he does get traded it's probably Portland just forcing it.

[tanuki1031]

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

With all due respect, I have to disagree with you. Simons was on an upward trajectory throughout his whole career and he might eventually make an all-star appearance in the next few years, especially in the east. While OG has developed a bit over the last few years and I think it's safe to say he has already reached his peak level which is not that impressive.
I think this would be a very generous offer from Blazers and the only reason they might offer this is because we are full of high-quality guards and need to overpay to close our positional needs.

You’re overrating Simons and underrating OG.

#23 + Little would be the get for Thad + Flynn or Banton

I bet these are the olive branches Masai has had to machete through drawing the frustration of opposing GMs.

[HumbleRen]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Simons is a negative in a playoff context and Little is like a poor poor poor mans version of OG so I gotta pass on this.

Even if OG never gets better and stays at this level, that's an all defensive caliber player that can give you 16-18 a night on fantastic 3 point # shooting splits.

That's infinitely more valuable than an undersized combo guard in Simons who can put up big numbers in a losing context. Herro is better than him and Heat didn't miss a beat with Herro being out.

[Yeezus_]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

I think something a little more balanced in a trade would be Simons, Sharpe, 23 for OG and 13.

Sharpe or 3 has to be in a deal but we'll see if anything happens tonight.