Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[Ackshun]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

[anotherhomer]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

Is Simon's that bad?

[Ackshun]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

Is Simon's that bad?

I like Simons a lot actually. Overpay for Portland ?

Give me a counter !!!!

[red_power]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

That's hilarious man. You propose to add a future all-star in Scoot or Miller into that already unbalanced in favor of Toronto offer. I don't think it makes any sense. Unless you are really willing to enjoy the treadmill team for another year and then risk losing OG for nothing next summer.

[Rapsfan07]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Sorry man, that's an easy pass... 23 & Little doesn't make up the gap between OG & Simons.

With all due respect, I have to disagree with you. Simons was on an upward trajectory throughout his whole career and he might eventually make an all-star appearance in the next few years, especially in the east. While OG hasn't developed a bit over the last few years and I think it's safe to say he has already reached his peak level, which is actually not that impressive.
I think this would be a very generous offer from Blazers and the only reason they might offer this is because we are full of high-quality guards and need to overpay to close our positional needs.

OG is one of, if not, the best 3&D big SF in the league. I happen to not be as down on Simons as most Raps fans but he's quite literally one of the worst defenders in the league. So as electric a scorer as Simons is, he gives it right back up on the other end and the #23 pick isn't enough to close that gap. Then you have to consider that Toronto doesn't HAVE to move OG. He's young enough to undergo a rebuild.

So to sell him off for Simons and #23 doesn't make sense for Toronto.

[JJ From Deep]

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

Is Simon's that bad?

I like Simons a lot actually. Overpay for Portland ?

Give me a counter !!!!

Simons is atrocious defensively. It really wouldn't fit with the defensive culture Toronto has and his contract is absurd. The only way a trade like that becomes more doable for Toronto (if we aren't including the #13 or #3 picks) is if Shaedon Sharpe is somehow involved.

[Bruin]

We did it boys. Jroy is finally sick of posting here


(He’s just salty that CHA probably taking Scoot and his team is gonna be left with mediocrity)

[WaltFrazier]

Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47

Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.

Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.

[Oakvillehoops]

I can’t see the raptors trading for #3 before knowing which player you’d get. I don’t see Masai drafting a Miller type. Wouldn’t be surprised if a trade happens after POR drafts scoot IF he doesn’t go #2.

Same with any pick from 4-10, it’s so unpredictable, the guy you want at 4, could still be on the board come 7/8/9

[TRex520]

I do think Portland will keep the pick if Scoot falls to them. They will trade the pick if Hornets gets Scoot.

I don't think we should trade for 3rd pick of it is Miller. I don't think he has the tool. I previously was low on Scoot, but Miller is even lower in a way.

I think some team that is desperate to rebuild with some older asset (Hello Bulls or Nets) will try to trade for the #3 and Simons. I just hope it is not us going into this bid war.

my sentiment all along. I would do the Siakam trade if it’s Scoot. but Miller? would need Sharpe or it’s not worth it, Siakam is too good…so a Siakam deal probably doesn’t happen

I think this makes an OG trade more likely (Indiana?)

I don't know what Indiana can offer that is appealing enough.

No other teams in lottery are win-now mode aside from Portland and Dallas.... Unless coming into the draft multiple players that we really like are still available then maybe OG for #10 and one of 2024 or 2025 (1-10 protected) FRP....

[Scizzup]

People are low on Miller for basketball reasons? Why?

Best shooter in the draft. Gets to the line at a high rate. Good FT shooter. Terrific rebounder. Plays good defense. Has size. Inspired to be a top level 2-way athlete in the league. What's not to like?

He's exactly what we need.

It makes no sense he had a really good season. The real concern should be his age. He is statically one of the best wings since 2016 out of college.


he doesn't have the ceiling of a Scoot (that learns to shoot) but he project to be a really good player. Even if Miller is a better version of Danny Granger that is still a great player and multiple time all nba player.


Granger before injury was 26/5/3 on 59% TS all star with good defense.

[NotMyKawhi]

Is Simon's that bad?

I like Simons a lot actually. Overpay for Portland ?

Give me a counter !!!!

Simons is atrocious defensively. It really wouldn't fit with the defensive culture Toronto has and his contract is absurd. The only way a trade like that becomes more doable for Toronto (if we aren't including the #13 or #3 picks) is if Shaedon Sharpe is somehow involved.

you trade simons for an expiring and future 1st. Some winning team will want him as a 6th man. sign and trade fvv for an expiring and future 1st.


sign Pascal or another max guy in 2024 with the max money. Scoot, Trent, OG, Scootie, Poeltl(13 million) Koloko, 13th pick and max money.


Someone do the math

[Zeno]

Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?

Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

That's hilarious man. You propose to add a future all-star in Scoot or Miller in that already unbalanced in favor of Toronto deal. I don't think it makes any sense. Unless you are really willing to enjoy the treadmill team for another year and then risk losing OG for nothing next summer.

I think if you want to trade for OG with Simons and #23, you would need to find a team to take Simons and give you an expiring marginally useful rotation player and at least 2 1sts. If you found that and offered it to the Raptors you might have a chance of a deal. Probably not but closer. But Simons is just not the type of player the Raptors tend to have interest in at all.

[Bruin]

Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47

Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.

Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.

I would be pretty upset to do this but if we managed to make a run with Dame, Pascal, and OG then it’ll be a massive FU to Portland knowing they could’ve been the ones in that position

[ArthurVandelay]

You can make a case to Dame about Brandon Miller imo. But if they draft Scoot, I’ll be watching the fireworks.

Draft starts tonight at… “with the 2nd pick in the 2023 nba draft, the Charlotte Hornets select…”

I hope they take Miller just for the fallout.

[MiamiSPX]

Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47

Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.

Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.

There are too many issues with trading for Dame.

First, he would have to agree to go to Toronto. Unfortunately, most of us can already assume what his stance will be on that.

Second, we cannot trade any future 1st rounders without negotiating something with the Spurs on next year's pick.

Third, while possible, it is extremely difficult to NOT include OG as well in that trade. It is possible to match salaries with just Barnes, but it involves basically all of our useless players (Thad, Flynn, OPJ, etc).

[Zeno]

Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47

Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.

Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.

I would be pretty upset to do this but if we managed to make a run with Dame, Pascal, and OG then it’ll be a massive FU to Portland knowing they could’ve been the ones in that position

I don't think we'd trade Scottie. It would be #13, 2026,2028, Gary or a 1st for Gary, Precious, Thad etc. It wouldn't be worse than the Miami offer unless you think Herro is good and valuable on his deal. But he'll end up in Miami cause that is where he probably wants to go.

[Bruin]

All this speculation will finally be settled in under 6 hours

[Bruin]

But JRoy would rather trade for him over Pascal

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[Tha Cynic]

So nothing is happening other than the Raptors selecting 13th right? That will be the only change other than an overpaid Van Vleet?