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Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1321 » by Bruin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:44 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:So nothing is happening other than the Raptors selecting 13th right? That will be the only change other than an overpaid Van Vleet?

90% chance this is what happens sadly
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1322 » by Pablo_Diablo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:45 pm

Bruin wrote:But JRoy would rather trade for him over Pascal :lol:
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I think it’s obvious the Blazers value whoever’s there at three more than literally anyone on the Raptor roster
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1323 » by KL78192020 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:47 pm

red_power wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
red_power wrote:Came with peace guys.

What do you think about the following offer:

Portland

Simons + Little + 23 pick

Toronto

OG Anunoby

Why for Portland?

We'll break out of our guard's conundrum to get a serviceable 3+D starter. Of course, OG is not a good one-on-one scorer, his injury story is quite scary and his contract expires the next year. But nonetheless, he's a good glue guy in his prime and I think he is a gamble worth making.

Why for Toronto?
You'll get a young defensive wing. You'll get a first-round pick in a very deep draft. You'll get a man who can easily replace departing VanVleet. All of this sums into a really great value to pull this off. I don't think there is a way you will ever get that much for a very solid but still role-player who might leave you the next year.

Thoughts?


Remove the #23

Add Portland #3 and Toronto #13

This seems a little more balanced now.

That's hilarious man. You propose to add a future all-star in Scoot or Miller into that already unbalanced in favor of Toronto offer. I don't think it makes any sense. Unless you are really willing to enjoy the treadmill team for another year and then risk losing OG for nothing next summer.


Went from peace to war real quick.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1324 » by Bruin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:48 pm

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Bruin wrote:But JRoy would rather trade for him over Pascal :lol:
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I think it’s obvious the Blazers value whoever’s there at three more than literally anyone on the Raptor roster

Whose burner is this :lol:
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1325 » by Pablo_Diablo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:51 pm

Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:But JRoy would rather trade for him over Pascal :lol:
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I think it’s obvious the Blazers value whoever’s there at three more than literally anyone on the Raptor roster

Whose burner is this :lol:


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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1326 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:02 pm

Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:But JRoy would rather trade for him over Pascal :lol:
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I think it’s obvious the Blazers value whoever’s there at three more than literally anyone on the Raptor roster


I think it’s very obvious that they’re leaking a lot to the media to show Lillard what they’re doing and to save face.

- They leak they’re not interested in Pascal but comes out that chatter in the league is Pascal is the one not committing to them
- Clippers start making calls on PG and they leak they’re chasing him but then move off from leaks once it becomes apparent he may actually be available
- Start talking about getting Bam as if there is a world where that’s at all a possibility for them

They’re trying to show Lillard that they’re doing something but it’s clear they want to make the pick. They did the same **** with OG last year. Need to be careful with the way Portland plays the media. Clearly a strategy for them and they do have an ESPN guy as part of the management team.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1327 » by Bruin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:06 pm

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1328 » by Gavin_TDThree » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:08 pm

gah i hope we somehow get the 3rd pick and set this franchise up for the next 10+ years. Having two high-end blue chip prospects in Scottie and Scoot gives us the building blocks for the next decade. Surround them with shooters and we have a really fun team.

I know it's extremely unlikely but I want it to happen so much haha
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1329 » by StopitLeo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:10 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47


Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.


Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.


Rumor?

Anyway, I'd love to see it as I don't think Scottie will be the kind of #1 you can build a team around. Still need another guy who can dribble and score unless GTJ steps it up.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1330 » by Pablo_Diablo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:10 pm

Gavin_TDThree wrote:gah i hope we somehow get the 3rd pick and set this franchise up for the next 10+ years. Having two high-end blue chip prospects in Scottie and Scoot gives us the building blocks for the next decade. Surround them with shooters and we have a really fun team.

I know it's extremely unlikely but I want it to happen so much haha


Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1331 » by Bruin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:11 pm

Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Gavin_TDThree wrote:gah i hope we somehow get the 3rd pick and set this franchise up for the next 10+ years. Having two high-end blue chip prospects in Scottie and Scoot gives us the building blocks for the next decade. Surround them with shooters and we have a really fun team.

I know it's extremely unlikely but I want it to happen so much haha


Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3

Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1332 » by Gavin_TDThree » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:15 pm

Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Gavin_TDThree wrote:gah i hope we somehow get the 3rd pick and set this franchise up for the next 10+ years. Having two high-end blue chip prospects in Scottie and Scoot gives us the building blocks for the next decade. Surround them with shooters and we have a really fun team.

I know it's extremely unlikely but I want it to happen so much haha


Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3

Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


Portland radio could say that they'd rather fold their franchise than trade for PS/OG and I will still hold onto that glimmer of hope that it's a smokescreen haha
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1333 » by Pablo_Diablo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:15 pm

Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Gavin_TDThree wrote:gah i hope we somehow get the 3rd pick and set this franchise up for the next 10+ years. Having two high-end blue chip prospects in Scottie and Scoot gives us the building blocks for the next decade. Surround them with shooters and we have a really fun team.

I know it's extremely unlikely but I want it to happen so much haha


Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3

Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for the #3
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1334 » by Bruin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:17 pm

Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3

Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for Portland

Doesn’t matter. They could be fed things from the FO as a bargaining tactic. Means nothing rn
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1335 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:19 pm

Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Portland radio reiterated that the Blazere have “zero interest” in either Siakam/OG for the #3

Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for the #3 without extensions


FTFY
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1336 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:20 pm

Bruin wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for Portland

Doesn’t matter. They could be fed things from the FO as a bargaining tactic. Means nothing rn


Exactly. Look at what the Raptors do to poor Grange and Smith.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1337 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:20 pm

Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for Portland


There’s reports that it’s Siakam who is not committing to Portland from National reporters. At this time of the year, I trust the national guys over the team guys who are clearly carrying water.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1338 » by Pablo_Diablo » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:21 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Pablo_Diablo wrote:
Bruin wrote:Anything that comes out of media today is to be taken with a grain of salt. It’s smokescreen season

No reports should be taken seriously


These two are straight shooters. They never blow smoke and have been saying since the lotto that their sources say that Siakam/OG is a non-starter for the #3 without extensions


FTFY


No.

Neither push the Blazers into contenders. Their roster is still recovering from Neil Olshey.

They view both as not being worthy of trading such a high pick for.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1339 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:22 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Here's a rumor that has us getting Lillard:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/damian-lillard-trade-destinations-heat-nets-aren-t-only-options-for-superstar-raptors-loom-as-darkhorse/ar-AA1cTzOj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cb8a2d724535400aa101d9e9c781973f&ei=47


Never rule out the Raptors.

Team president Masai Ujiri has shown in the past that he's not afraid to take a big swing. It's still unclear which direction the Raptors are going to take following a season in which they failed to make the playoffs, but trading for Lillard would certainly be a win-now move that could put them in a position to compete for another title.

The Raptors have a number of picks they could offer, but it could come down to the availability of Scottie Barnes, who would make a lot of sense for a rebuilding team. If Barnes continues to be off the table, then it's hard to imagine the Raptors being a realistic option for Lillard.

A team featuring something along the lines of Lillard, Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby and Jakob Poeltl would certainly pack a punch.


Tough to lose Scottie but no Fred makes up for it.

Only deal that works is GTJ / Barnes / Thad / Boucher for Dame.

Dame/OG/Siakam/Achwiua/Poeltl and then Koloko/OPJ/#13 is all we would be left with that is playable.

Unless you are following that up immediately with a FVV S+T in which we get back 3 rotation players there is no way we do that.

Edit: **** it I would be in. No chance Portland accepts Scottie + trash without draft comp though. Adding draft comp on is sketch
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1340 » by aminiaturebuddha » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:32 pm

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"I think", "probably", and "probably" all in one sentence. It's amazing what some of these sports media outlets pass off as content these days.

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