Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Let’s be real Herro >>> Poole

Why?

As someone that watches and roots for both teams, I agree that Herro >>> Poole. Herro is better in almost every statistical category and as bad as you think he is on defense, Poole is much much worse. Also, Herro doesn't get punched in the face by teammates.

One way or the other they’re not far off and one of them actually showed up and was a big part in his team winning a championship.

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This would actually be a challenge for us next season in the playoffs if he were to stay healthy

Assuming we make the playoffs next season

[3ammy3uck3ts]

After we fail at getting an unavailable Lillard...Id love for us to pivot to Brook Lopez or Nikola Vucevic.

Dame hasn’t done anything when playing with stars. Kawhi would be a much better candidate

What stars has dame played with in his prime lol?

[powerball1373]

Honestly like no joke what are the Wiz doing or trying to do? Are they trying to get sold or something because all joking aside these are some Elton Brand worthy move lol.

Oil money coming in to save the day lol

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[HeatIn5]

Is the Poole deal a sign of what Herro may be worth?

I think Herro is slightly better obviously but sets the benchmark?

[Vertical Limit]

We are going to be just fine.. as i said several times already, we have the assets to improve the talent level of our roster.

Kyle Lowry expiring
Oladipo expiring - he will waive that NTC for upfront money/buyout
Caleb Martin
Duncan Robinson
Tyler Herro
Jovic
Our 18th pick today
Future firsts

It may not happen in the summer, it may happen in January..

every year there is a team that falls hard from expectations and GM’s start to look for rebuilding options and it starts with their salary cap. That’s where we come in.

We will be talking to Golden State, or the Clippers, or the Lakers, or Portland, etc. There may be a free agent that we like, that signs this summer to some team and then gets traded at the deadline, like Gary Payton III last offseason.

We are in fine position. Dont sell our assets short because the desperation will come from those teams at the deadline trying to trade paul george, klay thompson, kawhi leonard, anthony Davis, etc star player.

Patience brothers.. last year people here acted like the celtics have secured the championship with Gallo and Brogdon.. gallo, i think Blake Griffin played more minutes against us than Gallo..

There are offseason champs that turn out to be pretenders and then theres teams like us that have been on the finals more often in recent history than 30 other teams, only other team is Golden State.

[AirP.]

Honestly like no joke what are the Wiz doing or trying to do? Are they trying to get sold or something because all joking aside these are some Elton Brand worthy move lol.

They are trying to make sure they tank since they traded the 2024 1st round pick but have protections on it. They basically need to tank 3 years in a row.

2024 first round draft pick to New York
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[AirP.]

Oladipo expiring - he will waive that NTC for upfront money/buyout

He doesn't have a NTC, that particular contract Oladipo signed the player has veto power in the first year of the contract. His expiring contract can be traded to any team, it should have value for team building or just cutting salary for the 24-25 season.

[miamiballer]

Let’s be patient, if the opportunity presents itself to get a real upgrade or difference maker at the 4 without compromising our tax situation or getting in the 2nd apron I’m all for it

Otherwise just wait til if and when dame asks out or another whale

I do think we should def resign Vincent and figure out the rest of the financials later

Unfortunately strus may have to go, he was a good soldier and will be missed but dipo took his money if he opts in

Remember moves can be made now or at the deadline , we’ll be fine

Does anyone really think that Beal is the answer at 45 mil a year or that he’s THAT much better or the reason we would win a championship, maybe 2 years ago but not now, dude is injured a lot, doesn’t play d, doesn’t have the killer instinct and doesn’t make those around him better and is a career loser, we would have been stuck with that contract, I think maybe Robinson and Lowry and 1st would have been a decent offer mostly to get off Robinson money but otherwise glad we didn’t cave

[Flash4thewin]

Is the Poole deal a sign of what Herro may be worth?

I think Herro is slightly better obviously but sets the benchmark?

Honestly I think it's more of the Wiz being irrational trading partners right now. Granted seeing what they are doing I wouldn't be surprised if they take on Herro for a draft pick that is heavily protected until the end of time. So yeah let's take advantage of them if thats the goal.

Is this a real life example of trying to fail upwards?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Is the Poole deal a sign of what Herro may be worth?

I think Herro is slightly better obviously but sets the benchmark?

It depends, the Warriors got massive salary relief and a better player in return imo. Depends on the teams/players involved and their situations

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Patience ends tonight, find out what Dame is doing and when you get the answer pivot and start dealing. Let’s get this team set and ready to go for next year

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[ShulaDon92]

After we fail at getting an unavailable Lillard...Id love for us to pivot to Brook Lopez or Nikola Vucevic.

Dame hasn’t done anything when playing with stars. Kawhi would be a much better candidate

What stars has dame played with in his prime lol?

His teams w McCollum were good. He didn't get it done. No biggie

-SHULA

[ShulaDon92]

We are going to be just fine.. as i said several times already, we have the assets to improve the talent level of our roster.

Kyle Lowry expiring
Oladipo expiring - he will waive that NTC for upfront money/buyout
Caleb Martin
Duncan Robinson
Tyler Herro
Jovic
Our 18th pick today
Future firsts

It may not happen in the summer, it may happen in January..

every year there is a team that falls hard from expectations and GM’s start to look for rebuilding options and it starts with their salary cap. That’s where we come in.

We will be talking to Golden State, or the Clippers, or the Lakers, or Portland, etc. There may be a free agent that we like, that signs this summer to some team and then gets traded at the deadline, like Gary Payton III last offseason.

We are in fine position. Dont sell our assets short because the desperation will come from those teams at the deadline trying to trade paul george, klay thompson, kawhi leonard, anthony Davis, etc star player.

Patience brothers.. last year people here acted like the celtics have secured the championship with Gallo and Brogdon.. gallo, i think Blake Griffin played more minutes against us than Gallo..

There are offseason champs that turn out to be pretenders and then theres teams like us that have been on the finals more often in recent history than 30 other teams, only other team is Golden State.

Gallo was injured early in the campaign

-SHULA

[Flash4thewin]

The crazy thing is with the new CBA, and how its cost prohibitive to pay the tax, as long as the Blazers are willing to pay, they can make the playoffs and thus give Dame a fighting chance. If anything he looks at us and is like, if they a play-in team can make it to the finals so can i.

[CrossOver]

Is the Poole deal a sign of what Herro may be worth?

I think Herro is slightly better obviously but sets the benchmark?

No. Golden State was in cap hell and had to move salary to make sure they could re-sign Green. They are going to be dealing with the 2nd apron so this was more about fixing their cap situation and off-loading Poole to do that.

[dubasilva]

Honestly like no joke what are the Wiz doing or trying to do? Are they trying to get sold or something because all joking aside these are some Elton Brand worthy move lol.

I agree that is totally weird. Not sure if they are trying to sell the franchise, but they made some trades where they received low value back. So if you're rebuilding, this would not make sense.

Strange what's happening there.

[dubasilva]

Honestly like no joke what are the Wiz doing or trying to do? Are they trying to get sold or something because all joking aside these are some Elton Brand worthy move lol.

Oil money coming in to save the day lol

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That makes sense now

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Honestly like no joke what are the Wiz doing or trying to do? Are they trying to get sold or something because all joking aside these are some Elton Brand worthy move lol.

I agree that is totally weird. Not sure if they are trying to sell the franchise, but they made some trades where they received low value back. So if you're rebuilding, this would not make sense.

Strange what's happening there.

It could be as simple, that this is the new world we live in with the new CBA. And that's the best that WASH could get. Everyone dealing with tax issues and apron stuff