Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

YogurtProducer · Post #1361 » by **YogurtProducer** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:37 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
causal_fan wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
The Suns gave up a bunch of swaps which will be pretty useless, can't imagine the Wiz being better than the Suns anytime soon. The only real first they got was the 2030 first from the Warriors for CP3.

I disagree - the swaps in 26,28 & 30 could be meaningful as the Suns big 3 probably has 2-3 years at best.

For 2028 the Nets have the rights to swap, they would get the worst of those two picks between the Nets and Suns as per the KD trade.
2028 first round draft pick to Brooklyn (swap, Brooklyn or Philadelphia incoming)
Brooklyn has the right to swap its 2028 1st round pick or, if conveyed to Brooklyn, Philadelphia's 2028 1st round pick for Phoenix's 2028 1st round pick [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023]

The 2026 swap won't happen. Suns will still be better than the Wiz in 3 years, Beal and Book will still be good, Book is only 27 and Beal 29, Wiz will be tanking for the next 2-3 years. So its only really the 2030 swap that could have some value.

I would not speak with so much certainty. KD will be done by 2026. Booker/Beal will make over $100M combined that year. There is a legit chance once KD is done they are capped out with no picks, no cap space, no assets. Not to mention Beal is injury prone AF and Ayton is tanking his value.

Bruin · Post #1362 » by **Bruin** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:39 pm

So basically Masai saying the same deals available at the deadline would be there in the off-season was a load of crap just like many of us said :lol:

fraudulent as hell

Read on Twitter

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DemHeavyHands · Post #1363 » by **DemHeavyHands** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:39 pm

Bruin wrote:

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Lmao pascal handcuffing us damn

Ado05 · Post #1364 » by **Ado05** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:39 pm

Siakam just **** the Raptors.

douggood · Post #1365 » by **douggood** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:40 pm

Bruin wrote:So basically Masai saying the same deals available at the deadline would be there in the off-season was a load of crap just like many of us said fraudulent as hell

Read on Twitter
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so one time a star wants to stick around we want to get rid of him
luck of the raptors fans

TorontoBarneys · Post #1366 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:40 pm

Bruin wrote:

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We finna trade Siakam and then he'll return to re-sign with us next summer.

Masai always wins, baby.

ForeverTFC · Post #1367 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:40 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
Bruin wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Hilarious. They won’t take our trade so they are overvaluing their player. Few temper tantrums emanating from the Pacific Northwest

https://netswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/22/zach-lowe-some-executives-believe-nets-are-overvaluing-mikal-bridges/

Portland’s been leaky as hell since the new guys took over. And they clearly are trying to play a PR game.

They pushed the OG is unhappy narrative last year as well.

vulture · Post #1368 » by **vulture** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:41 pm

Bruin wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Wow I guess no team will trade for him then. Masai better get that supermax ready.

Bruin · Post #1369 » by **Bruin** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:41 pm

We running it back :lol:

Play in exit here we come!!

ForeverTFC · Post #1370 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:42 pm

Bruin wrote:So basically Masai saying the same deals available at the deadline would be there in the off-season was a load of crap just like many of us said fraudulent as hell

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=6Hx3ZCSHlysihvhqh0K3hw

I dont understand. Clearly the deals are there, the guy is not giving anyone a guarantee that he’s re-sign. You really think it would have been different 4 months ago??

Godaddycurse · Post #1371 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:42 pm

vulture wrote:
Bruin wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Wow I guess no team will trade for him then. Masai better get that supermax ready.

he doesn't qualify for supermax

mademan · Post #1372 » by **mademan** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:42 pm

lmao. Siakam knows only Masai is gonna pay him 50mill/year lmao

ForeverTFC · Post #1373 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:43 pm

vulture wrote:
Bruin wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Wow I guess no team will trade for him then. Masai better get that supermax ready.

I’d gladly keep him if he wants to be here so bad. Needs to back it up with a discount though so we know he really means it lol.

DonDoolie · Post #1374 » by **DonDoolie** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:43 pm

Should have traded these dudes last deadline. The only tanking the FO was willing to do was tanking the value of our only assets. What a joke

YogurtProducer · Post #1375 » by **YogurtProducer** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Bruin wrote:So basically Masai saying the same deals available at the deadline would be there in the off-season was a load of crap just like many of us said fraudulent as hell

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=6Hx3ZCSHlysihvhqh0K3hw

I dont understand. Clearly the deals are there, the guy is not giving anyone a guarantee that he’s re-sign. You really think it would have been different 4 months ago??

Right?

These idiots are making huge conclusions based on absolutely nothing :lol:

For all we know we were offered poo poo platters at the deadline and knew those same **** deals would be available today.

DemHeavyHands · Post #1376 » by **DemHeavyHands** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

Pascal and Fred are too comfortable here. They know the grass ain’t greener on the other side. They are Masai’s babies and they don’t wanna leave the nest :lol:

KL78192020 · Post #1377 » by **KL78192020** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
causal_fan wrote:I disagree - the swaps in 26,28 & 30 could be meaningful as the Suns big 3 probably has 2-3 years at best.

For 2028 the Nets have the rights to swap, they would get the worst of those two picks between the Nets and Suns as per the KD trade.
2028 first round draft pick to Brooklyn (swap, Brooklyn or Philadelphia incoming)
Brooklyn has the right to swap its 2028 1st round pick or, if conveyed to Brooklyn, Philadelphia's 2028 1st round pick for Phoenix's 2028 1st round pick [Brooklyn-Indiana-Milwaukee-Phoenix, 2/9/2023]

The 2026 swap won't happen. Suns will still be better than the Wiz in 3 years, Beal and Book will still be good, Book is only 27 and Beal 29, Wiz will be tanking for the next 2-3 years. So its only really the 2030 swap that could have some value.

I would not speak with so much certainty. KD will be done by 2026. Booker/Beal will make over $100M combined that year. There is a legit chance once KD is done they are capped out with no picks, no cap space, no assets. Not to mention Beal is injury prone AF and Ayton is tanking his value.

The Suns may not be very good in 2026, but the Wiz will still be pretty terrible. They are just starting their full on tank and rebuild so they will be getting top picks in 2024 and 2025. I doubt they are able to rebuild that quickly and be better than the Suns by 2026. That would be a pretty quick rebuild and they would have to hit on all picks.

HumbleRen · Post #1378 » by **HumbleRen** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

This guy is holding us hostage.

Syd-TK3 · Post #1379 » by **Syd-TK3** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

It sucks that a player being open about wanting to stay on toronto will ultimately end up being a negative for our plans

vulture · Post #1380 » by **vulture** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:44 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
vulture wrote:
Bruin wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Wow I guess no team will trade for him then. Masai better get that supermax ready.

he doesn't qualify for supermax

He will if he makes all-nba next season. I don’t think he’s signing the max extension this summer.