2023 NBA Draft (tonight's discussion on pg 58)

[m0ng0]

Assuming we re-sign Grant

Hopefully we dont

[DusterBuster]

Dame/Scoot/?
Simons/Sharpe/Johnson
Little/Rupert/?
*Grant*/Watford/Walker
Nurkic/?/?

Assuming we re-sign Grant

Other primary FAs
Thybule
Eubanks
Reddish
Winslow

That’s not looking promising if we’re going to be competitive…

Portland needs to get a decision from Dame before FA starts. Resigning Grant makes no sense if Dame is leaving. That’s just loading Portland down with a bad contract. He should be used in a S&T if Dame is leaving or honestly even just let walk).

[BlazersBroncos]

Move Simons for DDR and our pick back, resign the 3 worth resigning and call it an offseason IMO.

* assuming Dame stays

[m0ng0]

That seems like a neutral move, and it does not make us a winner, short term or most definitely long term

[Jsun947]

Move Simons for DDR and our pick back, resign the 3 worth resigning and call it an offseason IMO.

* assuming Dame stays

What evidence do we have that Chicago

A.) Wants to trade DDR
B.) Simons is worth DDR
C.) DDR will make us competitive enough for Dame to stay so we don’t trade Simons for nothing

[Tim Lehrbach]

Move Simons for DDR and our pick back, resign the 3 worth resigning and call it an offseason IMO.

* assuming Dame stays

What evidence do we have that Chicago

A.) Wants to trade DDR
B.) Simons is worth DDR
C.) DDR will make us competitive enough for Dame to stay so we don’t trade Simons for nothing

To C), even if Dame asks out, DDR would be a great tank commander: consummate professional, won't take it personally if he's shopped at the deadline. I think it's worth doing. But yeah, you don't make that deal if Dame is already gone, most likely. And zero idea if Chicago would be interested.

[Tim Lehrbach]

Assuming we re-sign Grant

Hopefully we dont

Grant's a good player, and of course he needs to be retained if the team is trying to maximize its assets and chances to compete next season, buuuuuuut I can't say it would hurt to see him go. I do think he'll be tradable even if he's on a somewhat bloated contract, so if everything blows up, you just try to shorten or break up his deal to get space before the kids' big paydays.

[Jsun947]

Move Simons for DDR and our pick back, resign the 3 worth resigning and call it an offseason IMO.

* assuming Dame stays

What evidence do we have that Chicago

A.) Wants to trade DDR
B.) Simons is worth DDR
C.) DDR will make us competitive enough for Dame to stay so we don’t trade Simons for nothing

To C), even if Dame asks out, DDR would be a great tank commander: consummate professional, won't take it personally if he's shopped at the deadline. I think it's worth doing. But yeah, you don't make that deal if Dame is already gone, most likely. And zero idea if Chicago would be interested.

If that’s the case I think DDR would have nearly zero trade value as a $37 million dollar expiring who you’ll have for only a few months with no guarantee he’ll stay with your team.

Frankly unless there’s a big step 2 to go along with DDR I’d rather move on from Dame and keep Simons

[Tim Lehrbach]

What evidence do we have that Chicago

A.) Wants to trade DDR
B.) Simons is worth DDR
C.) DDR will make us competitive enough for Dame to stay so we don’t trade Simons for nothing

To C), even if Dame asks out, DDR would be a great tank commander: consummate professional, won't take it personally if he's shopped at the deadline. I think it's worth doing. But yeah, you don't make that deal if Dame is already gone, most likely. And zero idea if Chicago would be interested.

If that’s the case I think DDR would have nearly zero trade value as a $37 million dollar expiring who you’ll have for only a few months with no guarantee he’ll stay with your team.

Frankly unless there’s a big step 2 to go along with DDR I’d rather move on from Dame and keep Simons

If it doesn't work out and Dame is gone, DeRozan could be used to buy bad salary and draft picks, or he might be a target of a contender at the deadline. Or you might be right and he'd have minimal to no value. I still think he's worth taking a shot at. Simons is OK, but his immediate and long-term value is outweighed by what DeRozan could bring to a team still trying to win around Dame, IMO.

[Blazinaway]

Sham reports that Dame is not happy…

No ****.


If we don’t bring in the type of talent he wants then between now and around FA it seems we should expect a trade request

Yep, clocks ticking and times not on his side. I would say maybe 2 weeks Dame is giving the team.

Really starting to wonder if Cronin even wants to keep Dame or if hed rather push him out so they can full restart.

I am thinking this is not a Cronin decision, but a Jody/Bert one

[m0ng0]

Ahhh the conspiracy theories are back.

[DusterBuster]

Cronin’s post draft comments were so low energy and defeated, thought he was about to fall asleep.

[mojomarc]

Sham reports that Dame is not happy…

No ****.


If we don’t bring in the type of talent he wants then between now and around FA it seems we should expect a trade request

Yep, clocks ticking and times not on his side. I would say maybe 2 weeks Dame is giving the team.

Really starting to wonder if Cronin even wants to keep Dame or if hed rather push him out so they can full restart.

I am thinking this is not a Cronin decision, but a Jody/Bert one

It could be joint. After all, Jody/Bert probably don't like paying for a mediocre team, and Cronin probably realizes that there isn't a way to keep Dame happy all next season with whatever is availability for trade. I mean seriously--is there any scenario imaginable where we get better than 3rd in the West next year? Or getting out of the West as long as Joker is remotely motivated? I didn't have as much time or dedication to the NBA last year as usual, but what would be the real solution to a win-now outcome that doesn't involve divine intervention like Embid for Simons + filler while keeping Shaedon and Dame and getting magic performance out of our poo-poo platter at 3-4?

[babyjax13]

Congrats on Scoot! You legitimately have two foundational building blocks for a rebuild in Scoot and Sharpe.

[The Sebastian Express]

Congrats on Scoot! You legitimately have two foundational building blocks for a rebuild in Scoot and Sharpe.

Thank you! Most of us (not all because of his size) are super excited for him. There is a bit of an odd feeling with how this will mean with Dame and everything, so some of it is also very bitter sweet and on the edge waiting.

But I think most of us love the idea of Scoot and Shaedon, even if though many of us want to keep Dame too. Tricky times here.

[babyjax13]

Congrats on Scoot! You legitimately have two foundational building blocks for a rebuild in Scoot and Sharpe.

Thank you! Most of us (not all because of his size) are super excited for him. There is a bit of an odd feeling with how this will mean with Dame and everything, so some of it is also very bitter sweet and on the edge waiting.

But I think most of us love the idea of Scoot and Shaedon, even if though many of us want to keep Dame too. Tricky times here.

I think that's understandable. Honestly, I wouldn't worry. Portland didn't win with Dame so if they are bad I'd trust them to make the right decision again in the draft and you can just enjoy Lillard. It's obviously not ideal from an asset management perspective, but it is a super interesting team and I think one of the better 'two-track' teams out there because the priority is on the rebuild. If he asks out there will be a package of assets from someone, it will likely be a bit underwhelming, but it will be enough to add young talent and grease the wheels of future trades.

Also, as a fan of a team who recently turned over their core - emotionally it is strange for a while, but it gets exciting as soon as the basketball starts. So, if it does happen, I promise you all will have fun, and you will get to enjoy Dame being somewhere he can shine through the end of his prime.

[Tim Lehrbach]

Congrats on Scoot! You legitimately have two foundational building blocks for a rebuild in Scoot and Sharpe.

Thank you! Most of us (not all because of his size) are super excited for him. There is a bit of an odd feeling with how this will mean with Dame and everything, so some of it is also very bitter sweet and on the edge waiting.

But I think most of us love the idea of Scoot and Shaedon, even if though many of us want to keep Dame too. Tricky times here.

I think that's understandable. Honestly, I wouldn't worry. Portland didn't win with Dame so if they are bad I'd trust them to make the right decision again in the draft and you can just enjoy Lillard. It's obviously not ideal from an asset management perspective, but it is a super interesting team and I think one of the better 'two-track' teams out there because the priority is on the rebuild. If he asks out there will be a package of assets from someone, it will likely be a bit underwhelming, but it will be enough to add young talent and grease the wheels of future trades.

Also, as a fan of a team who recently turned over their core - emotionally it is strange for a while, but it gets exciting as soon as the basketball starts. So, if it does happen, I promise you all will have fun, and you will get to enjoy Dame being somewhere he can shine through the end of his prime.

Closely approximates my feelings at the moment. I don't want Dame to be moved at all, but I support him doing what's best for him and the team doing what's best for the team. If the era ends, I'll turn the page with enthusiasm for the next generation and continue to cheer for Lillard wherever he goes.

[m0ng0]

Also, as a fan of a team who recently turned over their core - emotionally it is strange for a while, but it gets exciting as soon as the basketball starts. So, if it does happen, I promise you all will have fun, and you will get to enjoy Dame being somewhere he can shine through the end of his prime.

Post of the night

[Norm2953]

Very fine to add Scoot who is close to 6-4 in shoes and pair him with Sharpe.

Team now needs to add athlete's in their front court who can keep up with Scoot/Sharpe.

[GreenRiddler]

Interesting comments by Joe. How on earth do we get vets and build a winner with Ant/Nurk as trading chips. Maybe a sign and trade with Grant but that’s not a lot of pieces.

Scoot could be a great 3rd guard behind Dame and Sharpe if we trade Simons.

Ant and a second for a good starting SF but who??