#36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Licensed to Il · Post #101 » by **Licensed to Il** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:37 am

There is a famous clip (in coaching circles) of a like 70 year old Hubie Brown (with Memphis) explaining that they can get anyone to >35% three point shooting, provided they are in the corner with their feet set. The problem he explains, is that a low iq player submarines their 3pt% with taking off platform shots and hunting hero plays. My optimism in a guy like Jackson is he is a NBA athlete, a NBA passer, and he doesn’t take dumb shots. Ive played and coached for decades and what kills you is the player who takes bad shots and makes bad decisions. A lesser shooter like Jackson who doesn’t
force bad shots is totally playable.

Big Dog Yank · Post #102 » by **Big Dog Yank** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:42 am

God...some of you are so exhausting. If you cannot be even a little glass is half full on draft night, then what's the point of being fans?

Ron Swanson · Post #103 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:44 am

randy84 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Are we sure he can’t shoot? Or is he just a high IQ player with an ugly shot that just chose to make smarter plays rather than force shots? I mean there’s a huge difference here.. he certainly was no chucker and his shot chart is ugly looking but the volume is almost non existent. Are we certain “he can’t shoot” is actually a fair assessment?

He can't shoot.

https://www.nba.com/watch/video/andre-jackson-jr-does-shooting-drills-at-2023-nba-draft-combine?plsrc=nba&collection=the-draft-combine-show

A poor man's Michael Kidd Gilchrist?

MKG maybe had the worst shot mechanics I've ever seen, so I don't think it's that bad. Silver lining I guess, but his jumper being broken might just make it better/easier to completely tear it down and and rework his entire shot motion. That's pretty much the only glaring red flag in preventing him from being a Day 1 rotation guy though. I like the pick. He was on the shortlist of guys I thought would be the best value picks if we moved up into the early-2nd. If he can become even a serviceable corner 3 guy, he's Bruce Brown with a better handle.

Daver · Post #104 » by **Daver** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:46 am

randy84 wrote:Going to be unplayable unless he develops a shot.

If we are going to rely on marjon or this young man as our starter at the 2 according to some posters we are in trouble but highlights show a good D guy (ben simmons clone)

SupremeHustle · Post #105 » by **SupremeHustle** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:09 am

Daver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:He's one of the most versatile players in the draft. Can play all five spots. This is how I see the opening day rotation as of now:

Jrue/Jackson Jr
Jackson Jr/ Allen
Middleton/Jackson Jr
Giannis/Portis/Jackson Jr
Brook/Portis/Jackson Jr

Also, I've never seen him play so I could be off with my analysis.

You have a guy who cant shoot starting at the 2 spot comeon dude

They also said Magic Johnson couldn’t shoot.

machu46 · Post #106 » by **machu46** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:14 am

Jackson’s shot has come a long way from high school. I remember he was a very high priority recruit for syracuse. It was scary bad back then. It’s very bad still but it’s progress.

At any rate, I think it’s possible to play around his lack of shooting ability but it’s definitely a major wart which is why he was in the second round.

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VooDoo7 · Post #107 » by **VooDoo7** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:16 am

Daver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:He's one of the most versatile players in the draft. Can play all five spots. This is how I see the opening day rotation as of now:

Jrue/Jackson Jr
Jackson Jr/ Allen
Middleton/Jackson Jr
Giannis/Portis/Jackson Jr
Brook/Portis/Jackson Jr

Also, I've never seen him play so I could be off with my analysis.

You have a guy who cant shoot starting at the 2 spot comeon dude

VooDoo7 · Post #108 » by **VooDoo7** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:19 am

randy84 wrote:Going to be unplayable unless he develops a shot.

Coach Carter · Post #109 » by **Coach Carter** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:28 am

This pick has GM Giannis written all over it.

Matches Malone · Post #110 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:21 am

Read on Twitter

RiotPunch · Post #111 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 am

A smart, athletic dude who disrupts **** is cool with me. Pleasant pick to wake up to.

HKPackFan · Post #112 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:35 am

randy84 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:So a younger Joe Ingles with no shot but extreme athleticism?

More like Michael Carter Williams with a worse shot.

I was wondering if MCW was his comp.

BMatt07 · Post #113 » by **BMatt07** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:51 am

After watching more Youtube videos than I care to admit.. I'm getting Lonzo Ball and Ben Simmons vibes.

Jackson and Jrue guarding on the perimeter will be fun to watch.

Baddy Chuck · Post #114 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:56 am

HKPackFan wrote:
randy84 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:So a younger Joe Ingles with no shot but extreme athleticism?

More like Michael Carter Williams with a worse shot.

I was wondering if MCW was his comp.

MCW was as dumb as they come with the ball in his hands.

HKPackFan · Post #115 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:05 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:
randy84 wrote:More like Michael Carter Williams with a worse shot.

I was wondering if MCW was his comp.

MCW was as dumb as they come with the ball in his hands.

So MCW was athletic, tall, good defense. Broken shot and bad bbiq.

our guy has the athletic, tall, good defense, and excellent BBIQ. (but the broken shot). Is that closer?

RiotPunch · Post #116 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:08 am

He's more Iggy than MCW, imo.

HKPackFan · Post #117 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:13 am

RiotPunch wrote:He's more Iggy than MCW, imo.

That would be an incredible player at 36.

Jez2983 · Post #118 » by **Jez2983** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:17 am

I don't know much about this guy, but could he have a young Marcus Smart level influence on the team? Smart was a poor shooter initially but worked to become serviceable. Did a bit of everything else.

RiotPunch · Post #119 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:18 am

HKPackFan wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:He's more Iggy than MCW, imo.

That would be an incredible player at 36.

More speaking stylistically, with similar limitations coming out of college. Iggy was a better scorer and free throw shooter, but he and Jackson are both big, smart, insanely athletic playmakers that crash the boards and play D. Iggy only shot 27% from 3 in college, yeah he turned out OK.

HKPackFan · Post #120 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:20 am

Oh this was interesting to read.

https://clutchpoints.com/hornets-andre-jackson-jr-2023-nba-draft

The Hornets essentially received the latter pick for trading the draft rights to Jalen Duren; one that the Hornets will now use to select UConn Huskies playmaker Andre Jackson Jr. at pick No. 27.

That said, what has never changed is the need for teams to have players with a high basketball IQ, the ability to defend at a high-level and the confidence to step up in key moments.

These are the areas where Jackson thrives the most.

Andre Jackson Jr. is Andre Iguodala reborn

6-foot-6 and 210 pounds, Jackson makes winning plays on both ends of the court. Averaging 6.7 points, 6.2 rebounds, 4.7 assists, and 1.1 steals in 29.1 minutes per game for the Huskies in 2022-23, the 21-year-old was instrumental in UConn's ability to win the 2023 National Championship.

Jackson's not a player with a scoring mindset, as his averages and efficiency (42.8 percent from the field, 29.3 percent from 3) underscore.

In fact, Jackson's a player with a skillset and playstyle not unlike that of former NBA wing Andre Iguodala...