2023 draft thread

blueNorange · Post #2081 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:06 am

also lavine is a career bum ass loser with deteriorating knees, no thank you

KOA · Post #2082 » by **KOA** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:11 am

DOT wrote:
Big Chan wrote:Stay miserable, we got a top 30 player for a lottery pick

Like I said

You keep ignoring that if the FO were competent, we wouldn't need to trade that lottery pick in the first place. It wasn't either or, it could've been both

And those picks are heavily protected, and will turn into 2nd rounders

This blind faith y'all have in Leon and co. cause they nepotism'd their way into Brunson while showing complete ineptitude at roster construction for years is wild to me.

Draft picks are like cars. Once you pick one off of the lot, it loses 20%+ in value.
We gotta be realistic about the situation. The Knicks aren't in rebuild/youth mode and have a hard enough time getting Deuce and Obi consistent minutes. Any rookie added this year would depreciate in value with minimal burn.

cgmw · Post #2083 » by **cgmw** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:13 am

blueNorange wrote:back to back drafts punted

lol

In fairness we’ve effectively punted every draft since 1985.

DrCoach · Post #2084 » by **DrCoach** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:17 am

Damn I wanted Davis from Indiana

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #2085 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:18 am

KOA wrote:
DOT wrote:
Big Chan wrote:Stay miserable, we got a top 30 player for a lottery pick

Like I said

You keep ignoring that if the FO were competent, we wouldn't need to trade that lottery pick in the first place. It wasn't either or, it could've been both

And those picks are heavily protected, and will turn into 2nd rounders

This blind faith y'all have in Leon and co. cause they nepotism'd their way into Brunson while showing complete ineptitude at roster construction for years is wild to me.

Draft picks are like cars. Once you pick one off of the lot, it loses 20%+ in value.
We gotta be realistic about the situation. The Knicks aren't in rebuild/youth mode and have a hard enough time getting Deuce and Obi consistent minutes. Any rookie added this year would depreciate in value with minimal burn.

With the new CBA guys on rookie contracts are going to be important, hence the Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets and Celtics all drafting guys. We're not in the position to punt on drafts, especially not when the next CBA is going to make it very difficult to build teams.

El Poochio · Post #2086 » by **El Poochio** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:25 am

Knicks getting Leon's son who went undrafted:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/law-student-jordan-haber-with-no-hoops-experience-enters-nba-draft/

thebuzzardman · Post #2087 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 am

Monk1718 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:Did we buy a pick already? Maybe we had a deal with some player who asked to be undrafted...

We are happy with what we have in Trevor keels

Future star. I keep trying to retell people but they don't listen

knicksNOTslick · Post #2088 » by **knicksNOTslick** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:45 am

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
Oscirus wrote:but everybody wants to play for the knicks, amirite

Read on Twitter

Sometimes being a laughingstock has its benefits.

At least there is a chance we sign the oldest drafted / non drafted player still.

And sorry your leak didn‘t work Obi. 10 minutes a night incoming.

The Knicks take one of the most fun times of the year and pour cold water on the fans, again.

Back in the day, the fans use to boo whoever the Knicks picked. How can the fans boo now if we don't have a pick? This FO is built different.

Spree2Houston · Post #2089 » by **Spree2Houston** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:31 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:A good night to all

Read on Twitter
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They saw him eat a salad the other day

Davis18 · Post #2090 » by **Davis18** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:32 am

This team is dynasty in making.
NY is the Mecca of basketball.
No rookies allowed.
LMFAO.

ScienceOfLosing · Post #2091 » by **ScienceOfLosing** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:47 am

knicksNOTslick wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
Oscirus wrote:but everybody wants to play for the knicks, amirite

Read on Twitter

Sometimes being a laughingstock has its benefits.

At least there is a chance we sign the oldest drafted / non drafted player still.

And sorry your leak didn‘t work Obi. 10 minutes a night incoming.

The Knicks take one of the most fun times of the year and pour cold water on the fans, again.

Back in the day, the fans use to boo whoever the Knicks picked. How can the fans boo now if we don't have a pick? This FO is built different.

Thx, I needed that!

nykballa2k4 · Post #2092 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:41 am

Polk377 wrote:Go get Trayce Jackson-Davis. Older rookie who can contribute right away at PF/C. Has great athleticism, good post footwork and post up game, can shoot the ball and a rebounder/shot blocker. If you want to replace Obi's 10 mins a game, he is the guy for cheap.

Warriors got him :noway:

nykballa2k4 · Post #2093 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:46 am

DOT wrote:
Monk1718 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:Did we buy a pick already? Maybe we had a deal with some player who asked to be undrafted...

We are happy with what we have in Trevor keels

We signed Obi's brother though....

Synciere · Post #2094 » by **Synciere** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:51 am

105 pages on a draft we don’t even have a pick in. Jesus.

F N 11 · Post #2095 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:56 am

Waste of time. As long as Thibs here, nobody care about youth. Can’t wait to trade first for next year to get off Fournier and Rose to sign Naz Reid or some other vet.

WargamesX · Post #2096 » by **WargamesX** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:11 pm

F N 11 wrote:Waste of time. As long as Thibs here, nobody care about youth. Can’t wait to trade first for next year to get off Fournier and Rose to sign Naz Reid or some other vet.

That is exactly what they are going to do trade Fournier so they can sign Naz Reid and Donte Divincenzo and run it back. Then mid way through the season when they realize that they aren’t significantly improved they’ll scheme to use more draft picks to make cap space in 2024

Post #2097 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:13 pm

Synciere wrote:105 pages on a draft we don’t even have a pick in. Jesus.

Do we even need a 2024 draft thread?

WargamesX · Post #2098 » by **WargamesX** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:18 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Synciere wrote:105 pages on a draft we don’t even have a pick in. Jesus.

Do we even need a 2024 draft thread?

To be fair half way through the discussions turns to into “the Knicks probably aren’t doing anything”, died for about a month, and then the rest was just confirming that the Knicks didn’t do anything. It’s 105 pages of the 7 stages of grief over this team.

Huey Freeman · Post #2099 » by **Huey Freeman** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:19 pm

NEVER FORGET...

Post #2100 » by **DOT** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:41 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KOA wrote:
DOT wrote:Like I said

You keep ignoring that if the FO were competent, we wouldn't need to trade that lottery pick in the first place. It wasn't either or, it could've been both

And those picks are heavily protected, and will turn into 2nd rounders

This blind faith y'all have in Leon and co. cause they nepotism'd their way into Brunson while showing complete ineptitude at roster construction for years is wild to me.

Draft picks are like cars. Once you pick one off of the lot, it loses 20%+ in value.
We gotta be realistic about the situation. The Knicks aren't in rebuild/youth mode and have a hard enough time getting Deuce and Obi consistent minutes. Any rookie added this year would depreciate in value with minimal burn.

With the new CBA guys on rookie contracts are going to be important, hence the Warriors, Lakers, Nuggets and Celtics all drafting guys. We're not in the position to punt on drafts, especially not when the next CBA is going to make it very difficult to build teams.

Even more than that

Nuggets made moves to trade for a 1st round pick this year like a week ago despite not knowing how the draft was gonna shake out

Getting guys on rookie deals is vital to establishing long term success, even if they're not your star players. Like, if we don't sign those vets 2 years ago, then sign Brunson and take say, Tari Eason with our pick cause we didn't need to trade it to free up space, we don't need to trade a 1st for Hart cause Eason does pretty much the same thing, except is cost controlled for 3 more years

We could then have used that pick this year to say, draft Ben Sheppard for more shooting off the bench

So instead of having Eason and Sheppard making less than 10 mil combined for at least the next 3 years, we are about to pay Hart 15 mil per year (at least) to be essentially an older, smaller, less athletic Eason

But this FO is brilliant and those picks are worthless anyways

Also, I just love the logic of "the team is so incompetent that they wouldn't develop anyone we draft, so it's actually genius for them to punt the draft away" lol.