NBA Draft Thread 2023

[IceColdCubano]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Jaquez should be considered a pure SF at 6’7 225-230 in the mold of Jimmy. He has the toughness to play the 4 in small ball rotations but to me we are looking at 3/2 type player.

OG Anunoby 6"7 230 - 5.4 rbs at Indiana
PJ Washington 6'7 228 - 7.5 rbs at Kentucky
Jaime Jaquez 6'7 228 - 8.2 rbs at UCLA

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I like it

[IceColdCubano]

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I really enjoyed this video, cool aspect of what these guys have to go through to improve their draft stock.

[3ballbomber]

Jaquez should be considered a pure SF at 6’7 225-230 in the mold of Jimmy. He has the toughness to play the 4 in small ball rotations but to me we are looking at 3/2 type player.

Have to assume they believe in his stroke and see him as a versatile offensive player, capable of initiating a PnR, Iso, and cutting off ball. Hopefully he can improve his catch and shoot game, as it’ll be necessary for him at the next level.

Does look a polished offensive player though. Lots of pivots, hesitations and patience in his moves. The fadeaway is nice.

Have no clue who he is. I've been watching a lot of highlights. Has fantastic fundamentals. Has a nice stroke just like Gabe & Strus. Solid footwork - stands out....much like Tyler's footwork. The type of player who has great foundations that can continue to really improve his game if has the hunger & desire. He's in the right place to do so.

The fact he has Jimmy as his fave player let's you know what kinda gm & mentality he models himself after. He doesn't have that irritating quite, bland demeanor that i saw in Winslow & Precious - emotionless NPC's. He has some character. Cld have another dog here.

[DayofMourning]

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Excellent video. These guys are really pushing it.

[FinNasty]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

[greg4012]

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[twix2500]

Jaquez is in the same size category as OG Anunoby and PJ Washington and more of a natural scorer than both.

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Much smaller wingspan and standing reach than both.

I swear I’m not trying to be a downer. I’m slightly disappointed for the reach due to 3-4 of the other players on board.

But I’m looking forward to rooting for Jaquez and seeing what he’ll contribute.

Now I’m in deep dive mode to critically assess him. One thing that stands out is his relatively short standing reach for someone with a 6’9 wingspan. Seems like he may have tanked his standing reach to juice up his vertical number.

Just checked—at 8’3.5, he has the shortest standing reach of any forward+ from this years draft combine.

IMO he shorted the measurement (so he’s actually longer than listed) so he can juice up his vertical jump number.

Oh yeah he doesn't have the crazy arm length as Washington and Anunoby, which makes him less of a shot blocking threat. But he is wide with a strong base heavy base, not easy to move. I always look at a players shoulders and base to see if they can bang in the paint/rebound and set screens.

He will likely gain weight with more muscle mass with with Heat training. He is a solid defender. But he was drafted for his offense. He is bigger than Crowder, Tucker, Strus and Martin who flourished in Heat system at the 4.

I want to say he can hit that corner trey. But cant find college stats to see.

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[3ballbomber]

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I really enjoyed this video, cool aspect of what these guys have to go through to improve their draft stock.

Cheers for posting that. I really enjoyed it too. Good insight into what it takes to translate your game frm college quality to compete at the highest level. I'm a skills trainer & reminded me to stay pushing these kids no matter how much they hate me to get them to achieve big things.

[IceColdCubano]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

So I liked the pick last night, but not in love.

So I spent all morning here, drinking coffee and going through the analytics and game tape. I am starting to really see what Miami Heat saw in this guy.

1. Dude shot near 40% from three in sophomore year, I looked at what was different, his team had from a talent standpoint was the best in regards to scoring, his Senior year his team was top in defense at UCLA. He impressed in workouts with teams because his shooting, footwork, and post control are elite. He is near top of his position on open 3pointers vs Tightly Contested 3pointers, he took a lot of end of the shot clock three's to save possession as the teams leading scorer which hurt his percentages.

2. Kid is actually very strong and physical and has a very methodical way about carving up the other team down the middle, He provided a lot of catch and shoot opportunities for UCLA in his last year like top 5% percentile, however his team converted at averages so his assist were hurt slightly there.

3. Clutch numbers in withing five minutes on both Offense and Defense were absolutely elite, and only had 2 other players better than him.

4. Multiple conversations leading up to the draft from his coaches and peers, say he is way more athletic than given credit for. He proved it in the combine by having the 3rd best standing vert leap. Looking at game tape you can see he makes the right play, and not the flashy play so if it calls for a reverse layup or using glass he will instead of going for the flashy dunk. He also is very good on post defense and youll rarely see him leave his feet. Which is why you don't see the crazy highlights people want to see of players jumping out of the gym.

5. He doesn't force the play ever, and will make the right basketball play but is always in the center and doing something to help, even if its box out or leaking out.

6. Dude is literally a hispanic Jimmy Butler clone, except he has a way bigger upside on shooting from the outside, a really nice form.

[Heat_team02]

Heat Agree to Training Camp Deals With Drew Peterson & Caleb Daniels.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/06/heat-agreeing-to-training-camp-deals-with-drew-peterson-caleb-daniels.html

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[eddieheatfan]

Heat Agree to Training Camp Deals With Drew Peterson & Caleb Daniels.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/06/heat-agreeing-to-training-camp-deals-with-drew-peterson-caleb-daniels.html

as expected

[twix2500]

So Heat picks up Justin Powell a converted big point guard who I thought would of been drafted. I preferred Mike Miles Jr, but this is a good pick up. Will be watching him this summer.

6'6 and shot the 3 at 42 percent.

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[MorbidHEAT]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

I just don’t understand it. Our 2 best players are 2 point players. It seems like you should surround them with shooters. Doesn’t seem like we did that. We essentially added another player that will operate in the same areas as our 2 stars.

[3ballbomber]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

So I liked the pick last night, but not in love.

So I spent all morning here, drinking coffee and going through the analytics and game tape. I am starting to really see what Miami Heat saw in this guy.

1. Dude shot near 40% from three in sophomore year, I looked at what was different, his team had from a talent standpoint was the best in regards to scoring, his Senior year his team was top in defense at UCLA. He impressed in workouts with teams because his shooting, footwork, and post control are elite. He is near top of his position on open 3pointers vs Tightly Contested 3pointers, he took a lot of end of the shot clock three's to save possession as the teams leading scorer which hurt his percentages.

2. Kid is actually very strong and physical and has a very methodical way about carving up the other team down the middle, He provided a lot of catch and shoot opportunities for UCLA in his last year like top 5% percentile, however his team converted at averages so his assist were hurt slightly there.

3. Clutch numbers in withing five minutes on both Offense and Defense were absolutely elite, and only had 2 other players better than him.

4. Multiple conversations leading up to the draft from his coaches and peers, say he is way more athletic than given credit for. He proved it in the combine by having the 3rd best standing vert leap. Looking at game tape you can see he makes the right play, and not the flashy play so if it calls for a reverse layup or using glass he will instead of going for the flashy dunk. He also is very good on post defense and youll rarely see him leave his feet. Which is why you don't see the crazy highlights people want to see of players jumping out of the gym.

5. He doesn't force the play ever, and will make the right basketball play but is always in the center and doing something to help, even if its box out or leaking out.

6. Dude is literally a hispanic Jimmy Butler clone, except he has a way bigger upside on shooting from the outside, a really nice form.

Good stuff. I don't usually take any stock from college kids until i see their game can translate w/ the big boys. Some reason i'm excited w/ this kid much like i was for Jovic.

[ShulaDon92]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

So I liked the pick last night, but not in love.

So I spent all morning here, drinking coffee and going through the analytics and game tape. I am starting to really see what Miami Heat saw in this guy.

1. Dude shot near 40% from three in sophomore year, I looked at what was different, his team had from a talent standpoint was the best in regards to scoring, his Senior year his team was top in defense at UCLA. He impressed in workouts with teams because his shooting, footwork, and post control are elite. He is near top of his position on open 3pointers vs Tightly Contested 3pointers, he took a lot of end of the shot clock three's to save possession as the teams leading scorer which hurt his percentages.

2. Kid is actually very strong and physical and has a very methodical way about carving up the other team down the middle, He provided a lot of catch and shoot opportunities for UCLA in his last year like top 5% percentile, however his team converted at averages so his assist were hurt slightly there.

3. Clutch numbers in withing five minutes on both Offense and Defense were absolutely elite, and only had 2 other players better than him.

4. Multiple conversations leading up to the draft from his coaches and peers, say he is way more athletic than given credit for. He proved it in the combine by having the 3rd best standing vert leap. Looking at game tape you can see he makes the right play, and not the flashy play so if it calls for a reverse layup or using glass he will instead of going for the flashy dunk. He also is very good on post defense and youll rarely see him leave his feet. Which is why you don't see the crazy highlights people want to see of players jumping out of the gym.

5. He doesn't force the play ever, and will make the right basketball play but is always in the center and doing something to help, even if its box out or leaking out.

6. Dude is literally a hispanic Jimmy Butler clone, except he has a way bigger upside on shooting from the outside, a really nice form.

Definitely that but did we need another Butler?

Jaquez could be the first Lorenzo Bird

-SHULA

[IceColdCubano]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

I just don’t understand it. Our 2 best players are 2 point players. It seems like you should surround them with shooters. Doesn’t seem like we did that. We essentially added another player that will operate in the same areas as our 2 stars.

You got to look at it from this point of view:

Miami is scouting right their looking at a couple of things.

1. were does the player fit.
2. Can he improve something we already do.
3. does his weakness hurt us and are he is capable getting better at them.
4. how game ready is he to put him into our improvement program and will he improve quickly.
5. Is he a hard worker and team first guy.

1. Miami, has nobody that can do what they already do well from the starters, right now our best bench player is Caleb Martin if call him our 6th Man. Even Caleb Martin offense starts from the three point line on a dribble drive or pump fake. He has no in between game and neither does anybody else outside of a rare Lowry post up on another point guard. This is were JJ comes in, doing what Jimmy does but for our bench team.
2. Miami, is best with their inside out game break down the paint create easy opportunity's, then get open three pointers from paint collapse, exactly what JJ did in college night in night out.
3. He shot a low percentage from three ball, but thats not what will be asked of him. I already showed on a previous post that he is actually better than what the stats show, hence why Miami loved his workout were he shot really well.
4. As a four year player he is ready to come right in spot minutes, in the case depth is used on a trade he can now be used in those minutes. he is also known for picking up things quick and every says he has tremendous basketball IQ which Spo will love.
5. Everything said about him so far says he is that guy, Heat culture down to the his little toe.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Everyone outside of this message board loves this pick for us lol…

I just don’t understand it. Our 2 best players are 2 point players. It seems like you should surround them with shooters. Doesn’t seem like we did that. We essentially added another player that will operate in the same areas as our 2 stars.

You got to look at it from this point of view:

Miami is scouting right their looking at a couple of things.

1. were does the player fit.
2. Can he improve something we already do.
3. does his weakness hurt us and are he is capable getting better at them.
4. how game ready is he to put him into our improvement program and will he improve quickly.
5. Is he a hard worker and team first guy.

1. Miami, has nobody that can do what they already do well from the starters, right now our best bench player is Caleb Martin if call him our 6th Man. Even Caleb Martin offense starts from the three point line on a dribble drive or pump fake. He has no in between game and neither does anybody else outside of a rare Lowry post up on another point guard. This is were JJ comes in, doing what Jimmy does but for our bench team.
2. Miami, is best with their inside out game break down the paint create easy opportunity's, then get open three pointers from paint collapse, exactly what JJ did in college night in night out.
3. He shot a low percentage from three ball, but thats not what will be asked of him. I already showed on a previous post that he is actually better than what the stats show, hence why Miami loved his workout were he shot really well.
4. As a four year player he is ready to come right in spot minutes, in the case depth is used on a trade he can now be used in those minutes. he is also known for picking up things quick and every says he has tremendous basketball IQ which Spo will love.
5. Everything said about him so far says he is that guy, Heat culture down to the his little toe.

Great post ICC. This summer version of you is a lot better then the nuggets if i do say so myself hahaha. Great insightful post

[twix2500]

Heat signs USC 6'8 forward Drew Peterson

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