The Jett Howard Thread

[KillMonger]

I went to see mocks before his injuries, he was almost never mocked to go before 22#. Than he returned and sucked. To be drafted 11th. Makes no sense whatsoever.

You’re wrong on this.

Here’s Jonathan Wasserman on January 18th with Jett Howard at 10.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10061849-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-projections.amp.html

Here’s Jeremy Woo from January 12th with Jett Howard at 18.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2023/01/12/nba-mock-draft-victor-wembanyama-scoot-henderson-anthony-black

Here’s Paul Kasabian from April 2 with Jett Howard at 12.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10070519-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-1st-round-predictions-before-ncaa-championship.amp.html

Here’s Sam Vecenie from February 16 with Jett Howard at 15.

https://theathletic.com/4156999/2023/02/16/nba-mock-draft-walker-wembanyama-henderson/?source=user_shared_article ($)

Here’s Adam Spinella from January 25th with Jett Howard at 15.

Watch on YouTube

most of those were from January, when a lot of his season hadnt been played. as more film of him was seen, he dropped. and yes, probably some because of his injury too.

i mean if you are operating at about half capacity then you would drop, when he was healthy he was scorching from just about every range....me personally i forgot when but it was early when i looked at mocks but i do remember him being 12th...might not have finished with the best percentages i like that he's more dynamic and has an easier time creating separation, which was a problem for gradey.....

[Skybox]

Sadly, I'd have to grade this draft "Incomplete"...not because I'm disappointed in the actual players, but it's unclear to me what their role is. I asked the exact same question in the Black thread (but different position)...

IS JETT HOWARD ABLE TO PLAY SG?

(if not, let's move quickly to the trade market for the guy who fills a gaping need. As of this morning, Gary Harris is our best SG)

[The-Stallion70]

I will admit, looking back at the 2019 draft and seeing that we reached for Okeke when there were alot of other good players available.... does worry me a little bit when it comes to Jett.

Still just the fact that we got a point guard last night makes me happy.

[MoGrAdY]

After watching some highlights I like what i see offensively. No clue on defense so i'll take what i've heard that he's a liability. Maybe he can turn into an offensive spark plug. If you can find a guy who can come in off the bench and provide instant scoring that's worthy of #11.

But if he's a bust we'll all be wondering where this pick came from, especially if Dick doesn't bust since he was available and the presumed pick.

like i said, he is a cheap version of Duncan Robinson. offensive shooter, but not much else right now. remains to see if he can develop more. i hope so

This is one of the worst takes I’ve seen so far.

Jett is right now a better NBA player than Duncan. Lazy comparison.

[WuTang_CMB]

Nice pick. Im guessing it was down to him and Dick

[KillMonger]

Dennis Scott size so he could play SF or SG imo

[bigdogdylan5]

I went to see mocks before his injuries, he was almost never mocked to go before 22#. Than he returned and sucked. To be drafted 11th. Makes no sense whatsoever.

You’re wrong on this.

Here’s Jonathan Wasserman on January 18th with Jett Howard at 10.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10061849-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-projections.amp.html

Here’s Jeremy Woo from January 12th with Jett Howard at 18.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2023/01/12/nba-mock-draft-victor-wembanyama-scoot-henderson-anthony-black

Here’s Paul Kasabian from April 2 with Jett Howard at 12.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10070519-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-1st-round-predictions-before-ncaa-championship.amp.html

Here’s Sam Vecenie from February 16 with Jett Howard at 15.

https://theathletic.com/4156999/2023/02/16/nba-mock-draft-walker-wembanyama-henderson/?source=user_shared_article ($)

Here’s Adam Spinella from January 25th with Jett Howard at 15.

Watch on YouTube

Also who cares where he is mocked? They clearly saw something they liked. We needed shooting and they think he will be better than Dick… clearly we will see. To me they look very similar.

[OrlChamps2030]

I liked Hawkins and Dick more at 11 as far as shooters go because I felt both provided a bit more utility outside of just shooting. Hawkins with plus defense as an actual 2 guard and Dick with three level scoring.

He looks a bit slow honestly.. getting to the rim/by his man just doesn't look easy for him and he was bad on defense. Hopefully injuries played a part. We did need a shooter at 11 so I'm not mad at the pick.. his shoot looks like it will be really good. He has nice size and a good feel for the game, he moves the ball well.

Big question to me as of today - can he get mins at the 2 or is he only a 3?

And before anyone comes at me I really like the Black pick

[Knightro]

Also who cares where he is mocked? They clearly saw something they liked. We needed shooting and they think he will be better than Dick… clearly we will see. To me they look very similar.

It's not so much that mocks matter, it's that Howard's stock very clearly dropped after he had a very poor finish to the season which some people believe was because he tried to play through a bad ankle injury.

Jett was considered by a lot of reputable draft prognosticators to be drafted in the 10-15 range in mid-to-late January. Then he hurt his ankle on 1/22.

Pre injury: 18 games, 32 MPG, 15.4 PPG, 2.9 RPG, 2.5 APG on .440 FG%, .526 2PT%, .388 3PT%, .789 FT% (3.2 per game)
Post injury: 11 games, 32 MPG, 12.3 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 1.3 APG, on .371 FG%, .439 2PT%, .337 3PT%, .833 FT% (1.6 per game)

Had he just sat out the rest of the season after hurting his ankle, he likely would have been mocked much higher.

[tiderulz]

After watching some highlights I like what i see offensively. No clue on defense so i'll take what i've heard that he's a liability. Maybe he can turn into an offensive spark plug. If you can find a guy who can come in off the bench and provide instant scoring that's worthy of #11.

But if he's a bust we'll all be wondering where this pick came from, especially if Dick doesn't bust since he was available and the presumed pick.

like i said, he is a cheap version of Duncan Robinson. offensive shooter, but not much else right now. remains to see if he can develop more. i hope so

This is one of the worst takes I’ve seen so far.

Jett is right now a better NBA player than Duncan. Lazy comparison.

well, Duncan has played in the NBA, earned himself an extension and is career 40% from 3. how about we wait to see Howard play 1 game in the NBA, if he has trouble getting his shot off. They are both 3 pt specialists right now, who are not great on defense, a little slow footed, wing sized at 6'7-6'8. i dont think its lazy at all. But Jett doesnt bring anything that i see that Robinson hasnt shown.

[bigdogdylan5]

Also who cares where he is mocked? They clearly saw something they liked. We needed shooting and they think he will be better than Dick… clearly we will see. To me they look very similar.

It's not so much that mocks matter, it's that Howard's stock very clearly dropped after he had a very poor finish to the season which some people believe was because he tried to play through a bad ankle injury.

Jett was considered by a lot of reputable draft prognosticators to be drafted in the 10-15 range in mid-to-late January. Then he hurt his ankle on 1/22.

Pre injury: 18 games, 32 MPG, 15.4 PPG, 2.9 RPG, 2.5 APG on .440 FG%, .526 2PT%, .388 3PT%, .789 FT% (3.2 per game)
Post injury: 11 games, 32 MPG, 12.3 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 1.3 APG, on .371 FG%, .439 2PT%, .337 3PT%, .833 FT% (1.6 per game)

Had he just sat out the rest of the season after hurting his ankle, he likely would have been mocked much higher.

This is kinda my point though context matters and with 60 some odd players I think most of these mocks devolve to looking at stats and clips. Each team has scouts that focus on these guys and can add the context while the mocks just one person and they normally just become a big group think exercise

[KillMonger]

I liked Hawkins and Dick more at 11 as far as shooters go because I felt both provided a bit more utility outside of just shooting. Hawkins with plus defense as an actual 2 guard and Dick with three level scoring.

He looks a bit slow honestly.. getting to the rim/by his man just doesn't look easy for him and he was bad on defense. Hopefully injuries played a part. We did need a shooter at 11 so I'm not mad at the pick.. his shoot looks like it will be really good. He has nice size and a good feel for the game, he moves the ball well.

Big question to me as of today - can he get mins at the 2 or is he only a 3?

And before anyone comes at me I really like the Black pick

did we watch the same player? 3 levels? bro gradey is a specialist....he had nothing in his bag other than a 1 dribble pull up...that was part of his problem that he couldn't separate....i watch gradey get absolutely clamped up by arkansas and they didn't do anything other than just stick close to him because they KNEW he couldn't create his own shot

[Skybox]

Dennis Scott size so he could play SF or SG imo

That's a great comp...even looks like him but with 2023 hairstyle ...just don't know if he or 3D can play 2, but I'm down. We know he can shoot and, from the interviews, I like the personality and the apparent intangibles and the fact that he grew up around a consummate pro for a dad.

[KillMonger]

Dennis Scott size so he could play SF or SG imo

That's a great comp...even looks like him but with 2023 hairstyle ...just don't know if he or 3D can play 2, but I'm down. We know he can shoot and, from the interviews, I like the personality and the apparent intangibles and the fact that he grew up around a consummate pro for a dad.

the way i look at it....we know what we got him for and it wasn't defense....it would be the same if we picked gradey or hawkins....all three tries defensively but are not known for defense.....when howard was healthy he was fine defensively, not locking anyone down by any means but not a liability.....injury in his own words affected his mobility, but defense is definitely an improvement area

[Optimus_Steel]

Sadly, I'd have to grade this draft "Incomplete"...not because I'm disappointed in the actual players, but it's unclear to me what their role is. I asked the exact same question in the Black thread (but different position)...

IS JETT HOWARD ABLE TO PLAY SG?

(if not, let's move quickly to the trade market for the guy who fills a gaping need. As of this morning, Gary Harris is our best SG)

I don't know why people are giving out grades, these guys haven't played a game yet. So grading vs random mock drafts?

[Optimus_Steel]

Dennis Scott size so he could play SF or SG imo

That's a great comp...even looks like him but with 2023 hairstyle ...just don't know if he or 3D can play 2, but I'm down. We know he can shoot and, from the interviews, I like the personality and the apparent intangibles and the fact that he grew up around a consummate pro for a dad.

Getting a 3D at #11 would be a home run. Lets see when the game start.

[Skybox]

Sadly, I'd have to grade this draft "Incomplete"...not because I'm disappointed in the actual players, but it's unclear to me what their role is. I asked the exact same question in the Black thread (but different position)...

IS JETT HOWARD ABLE TO PLAY SG?

(if not, let's move quickly to the trade market for the guy who fills a gaping need. As of this morning, Gary Harris is our best SG)

I don't know why people are giving out grades, these guys haven't played a game yet. So grading vs random mock drafts?

We don't need to give out grades, or do mock drafts, or discuss fake trades...or even login here

[3ddman23]

I just feel like weltman tries to make it seem like he is out smarting everyone. Again I'm not mad about the player it's just the reach to get him at 11. Especially when u have 2 guys in Hawkins and dick who are essentially the same exact player but with potential more upside.

So again the player isn't the problem it's the reach at 11. Where does he fit on the roster? How does he get minutes. What does he do aside from hit 3s. Idk I'm not completely down on this pick it's just a head sctracher.

[OrlChamps2030]

I liked Hawkins and Dick more at 11 as far as shooters go because I felt both provided a bit more utility outside of just shooting. Hawkins with plus defense as an actual 2 guard and Dick with three level scoring.

He looks a bit slow honestly.. getting to the rim/by his man just doesn't look easy for him and he was bad on defense. Hopefully injuries played a part. We did need a shooter at 11 so I'm not mad at the pick.. his shoot looks like it will be really good. He has nice size and a good feel for the game, he moves the ball well.

Big question to me as of today - can he get mins at the 2 or is he only a 3?

And before anyone comes at me I really like the Black pick

did we watch the same player? 3 levels? bro gradey is a specialist....he had nothing in his bag other than a 1 dribble pull up...that was part of his problem that he couldn't separate....i watch gradey get absolutely clamped up by arkansas and they didn't do anything other than just stick close to him because they KNEW he couldn't create his own shot

Three level scorer is maybe a stretch but Dick still cut to the rim off the ball (and even with the ball sometimes) that just really wasn't a part of Howard's game he barely had any attempts at the rim.. hopefully because of injury. I like the size, shooting, and ball movement though.

[KillMonger]

I liked Hawkins and Dick more at 11 as far as shooters go because I felt both provided a bit more utility outside of just shooting. Hawkins with plus defense as an actual 2 guard and Dick with three level scoring.

He looks a bit slow honestly.. getting to the rim/by his man just doesn't look easy for him and he was bad on defense. Hopefully injuries played a part. We did need a shooter at 11 so I'm not mad at the pick.. his shoot looks like it will be really good. He has nice size and a good feel for the game, he moves the ball well.

Big question to me as of today - can he get mins at the 2 or is he only a 3?

And before anyone comes at me I really like the Black pick

did we watch the same player? 3 levels? bro gradey is a specialist....he had nothing in his bag other than a 1 dribble pull up...that was part of his problem that he couldn't separate....i watch gradey get absolutely clamped up by arkansas and they didn't do anything other than just stick close to him because they KNEW he couldn't create his own shot

Three level scorer is maybe a stretch but Dick still cut to the rim off the ball (and even with the ball sometimes) that just really wasn't a part of Howard's game he barely had any attempts at the rim.. hopefully because of injury. I like the size, shooting, and ball movement though.

way more than a stretch...if gradey had 3 levels to his game he would actually maybe be worth a 6th overall selection as that's a totally different player....i'll give you the off-ball cuts though, something that is intuitive and gradey could do that no doubt....jett's injury may have had something to do with that as he said he was around 50%.... but that is an improvement area for sure, some aspect of that can be coached up...honestly all the players at this range(10-15) in the draft has some kind of weakness(s)