Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[contract]

Here another trade idea to off load Duncan Contract and cap saving of 12.8m would include 1 or 2 of the second round pickups.
It provides us with a backup C option. I would love to see what others options you guys think can solve our Cap problem with some actual soluations.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trades/RP4pOYQXd_cEmT

I'm sorry to tell you that they aren't eating Duncan's contract for some 2nd round picks. The only way that anyone is trading for Duncan without multiple 1st round picks or maybe Herro attached is if they are sending back an even worse contract. We're just going to have to figure out a way to make him useful for the next couple of years and trim salaries elsewhere. Unfortunately elsewhere is almost certainly going to be Lowry and Dipo's expiring deals which would cripple our chances to make a big trade.

[dean456]

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Sooner you ask out the sooner we can get you and the more pieces there will be out there to complete the roster. Longer you wait the worse you’re making your chances of winning a championship

This is what's gonna frustrate me if this drags out into free agency. If Dame lets it go past that point without making it clear to the FO that he wants out then Miami gotta move on and say maybe we'll revisit it at the deadline.

[daviddpc]

Teams with cap space that could be good trading partners- Det, Hou, Ind and Sas. Orl, Ut, Okc, Mem, Atl, King and Tor as possible trading partners. What trade could improve us while we wait to see what pans out on the Damin Lillard front.

[wade44]

I know it’s the off-season but the Dame talk should be barred from this forum. Nets literally blow anything we can offer way out of the water in any deal. Doesn’t matter though because he’s probably just staying in Portland once they make a move or two to appease him

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Dame can go down as a loyal Blazer and thats fine. Totally cool. If he wants to have a contender arpund him, it aint PLand. Franchise cant play both sides. Id move him for the best deal at the deadline. Smaller market than PLand is gonna want tho.

He’s my 3rd favorite player but if he stays he needs to shut the fuxk up. I don’t want to hear another word from him about his future and I don’t want to see any reports from Haynes hinting he might want out next summer if things don’t change for the 7th year in a row

[Heat3]

Nobody said he is carrying bums. That's a strawman. But Jimmy has put the team on his back many times, has he not?

The reason people are upset is because they know we have Jimmy and a good team. But we need some moves to put us over the hump. Simply running it back and not being able to get over the hump is not good enough for some. It's fine for you, that's cool, you can have your opinion, and other people can have theirs.

Is he not supposed to put the team on his back? He’s the best player on the team and the leader. That’s his job. ...

Why isn't that Pat's job? Why doesn't he put the team on his back and make the moves necessary to put us over the top? That's his job.

It is his job. Except I am open to the possibility that “running it back” (or what ever that means this year) is the best move that can be realistically made and has the best results. And that making other kinds of moves that look good on paper can make the team worse and less successful. That’s why I say not making the wrong move. That may seem like doing nothing to some but not to me. Especially after seeing the results of the last four years. It’s hard for me to see things different after that. Those are real results while seemingly doing very little.

[Heat3]

I know it’s the off-season but the Dame talk should be barred from this forum. Nets literally blow anything we can offer way out of the water in any deal. Doesn’t matter though because he’s probably just staying in Portland once they make a move or two to appease him

I’m guessing they will drag it out until the trade deadline.

[DayofMourning]

Dame can go down as a loyal Blazer and thats fine. Totally cool. If he wants to have a contender arpund him, it aint PLand. Franchise cant play both sides. Id move him for the best deal at the deadline. Smaller market than PLand is gonna want tho.

He’s my 3rd favorite player but if he stays he needs to shut the fuxk up. I don’t want to hear another word from him about his future and I don’t want to see any reports from Haynes hinting he might want out next summer if things don’t change for the 7th year in a row

He will have to cancel interviews then because these probing reporters dig dig dig.

[VaDe255]

There are a lot of interesting things the Heat could have done. Including trading Herro before his extension kicks in to open up cap space to have more options.

But they are just playing with their thumbs and doing nothing instead.

That Dame saga can not come to a close soon enough.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Gary Trent Jr makes the smart move of opting into his 18.5 mil deal. Not gonna be a lot if money floating around out there with this 2nd apron.

[ShulaDon92]

There are a lot of interesting things the Heat could have done. Including trading Herro before his extension kicks in to open up a ton of cap space to have more options.

But they are just playing with their thumbs and doing nothing instead.

That Dame saga can not come to a close soon enough.

Could've traded Duncan
Couldve traded Herro

And now we got Kylo

-SHULA

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Why would we not talk about dame when his preference straight from his mouth is “obviously Miami”. All things considered were literal perfects fits for each other and the answer for each finally getting a championship.

All this being the case, the FO everyone is going to war over right now should be able to get it done. We have The Godfather for crying out loud, nobody tells him no and gets to live to tell about it

[contract]

I know it’s the off-season but the Dame talk should be barred from this forum. Nets literally blow anything we can offer way out of the water in any deal. Doesn’t matter though because he’s probably just staying in Portland once they make a move or two to appease him

I’m guessing they will drag it out until the trade deadline.

I don't think they are trying to drag it out. I think they don't want to trade him. Even though the team stinks, they are going to sell more tickets and more merch and get more attention with Lillard there than if they trade him away. Portland may be a tough sell to players now, but just imagine how hard it will be to convince anyone to go there to play with Simons and Nurkic.

Their roster isn't horrible. They certainly aren't 33-49 bad. But their coach may be. They may want to start by fixing that.

[dean456]

What I would give for a world where if someone disagrees with a decision this front office made, they would explain it, offer what they would have done as an alternative and why they believe that alternative would be better for this team.

But unfortunately Heat fans gonna Heat fan.

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I don’t have a dog in this fight but here’s an example from last night. I would’ve traded 18 back to the rockets for 20 and additional 2nds or cash or something (maybe use the cash to buy a 2nd) so the Rockets could get their guy Whitmore who still ended up falling to them and the Heat still could’ve drafted the same dude.

I would have explored a deal like this too. But at the end of the day if this was a good viable option for Miami to do, they would have done it.

I had a similar reaction when it happened, because I hadn't looked into Jaime at all and I didn't think he would go that high.

But you just never know what's really happening behind the scenes.

For example
1. Houston may have been trying to move up and told Jaime that they would draft him if he was there and Jamie preferred Miami and Miami found out prior to agreeing to any trade.
2.The information could be old and no longer relevant because Houston changed their mind.
3. The information could have been never true.

I'm not going to mad at hypothetical trades that may not have even been a real option. If its something that's announced and falls apart. Or if they make a seemingly great pick and make a questionable trade then sure but with this there's just too much to speculate.

[DayofMourning]

A big thing for me moving forward is that I think Spo really taps out players potential. Give him a big fish prospect and see what he can do with him.

[Rapaz]

I know it’s the off-season but the Dame talk should be barred from this forum. Nets literally blow anything we can offer way out of the water in any deal. Doesn’t matter though because he’s probably just staying in Portland once they make a move or two to appease him

This. Y'all should focus on realistic targets like:

DeRozan

for

Robinson
Oladipo
Jovic
Jaquez
3 first-round picks


P.S. It's time to come home, AirP.

[Spacely]

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[Heat3]

There are a lot of interesting things the Heat could have done. Including trading Herro before his extension kicks in to open up cap space to have more options.

But they are just playing with their thumbs and doing nothing instead.

That Dame saga can not come to a close soon enough.

I think someone posted a video where Ira was saying that Herro can’t be traded before July 6th. Dame can’t be traded before July 9th.

[contract]

There are a lot of interesting things the Heat could have done. Including trading Herro before his extension kicks in to open up a ton of cap space to have more options.

But they are just playing with their thumbs and doing nothing instead.

That Dame saga can not come to a close soon enough.

Could've traded Duncan
Couldve traded Herro

And now we got Kylo

-SHULA

Damn you! Now I can't unsee it.