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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#361 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:30 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
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yosemiteben wrote:What is your source? Seems like you're pretty certain despite it not being reported anywhere, do you have some sort of connection?

I don't really get the "don't steal the spotlight" angle, there have been a bunch of coaching decisions made in later rounds in the playoffs and IMO the Hornets are not capable of stealing the spotlight from the national media.

Make a deal if he's wrong ban him for false reporting. :D


I told ya!

Can't give out my sources but if I say it is a done deal I am not one to talk out of nowhere. Check my post history. Never told a fib.
Im new here. I will let the oldheads vouch for you.

It does help when Woj said yesterday Miller will be the pick. I guess we will have to wait and see. :D
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#362 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:31 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:What is your source? Seems like you're pretty certain despite it not being reported anywhere, do you have some sort of connection?

I don't really get the "don't steal the spotlight" angle, there have been a bunch of coaching decisions made in later rounds in the playoffs and IMO the Hornets are not capable of stealing the spotlight from the national media.

Make a deal if he's wrong ban him for false reporting. :D


I told ya!

Can't give out my sources but if I say it is a done deal I am not one to talk out of nowhere. Check my post history. Never told a fib.

90% of the time Ive seen someone on here make a claim about something like this where it was assumed or implied they had a source, it has turned out to be bogus.

I remember someone from I think the Dallas board claiming in our draft thread that he had an inside source that Killian Hayes was getting picked by a specific team and that team ended up passing on him.

I also remember in the Kaminsky draft there was a dude on another hornets forum posting for months that he had an inside source that was confirming they were drafting Devin Booker if he made it to them.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#363 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:44 pm

The Hornets Planet board has (had?) a guy for a long time claiming to be an insider. Attacked anyone who questioned his claims and always had excuses for why he was wrong.

I think he started around the DUST chip era and was a loud voice claiming we were bringing in CP3 and Carmelo
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#364 » by JDR720 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:47 pm

I don't remember who it was, but a few years ago someone on the Nets board broke national news days before any big reporter had it. Got like 1000 And1's for it.

Think it was about Jason Kidd being hired as coach.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#365 » by yosemiteben » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:24 pm

Can someone count roster spots and speculate as to how many spots we realistically have to devote to 2023 draft picks?
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#366 » by Goodecharlotte » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:29 pm

the off season who should we have as guards, obviously we've got Melo at point hopefully as my opinion we'd have Scoot at SG, but who should we have backing them up. DSJ I'd like back because he gave us a lift off the bench defensively with his energy and seams such a team guy.
I think Rozier is coming to an end in Charlotte a shame really because he's had really good spurts of play but defensively not great, if we could trade him and his contract away that would be fine even though I'd be sad to see him go but it's time.
I'd be over the moon if we could snatch Whitehead at #27 a good shooter with defensively characteristics, then that leaves Theo who did really well for us when played? I don't know how you guys see it playing out?
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#367 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:39 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Can someone count roster spots and speculate as to how many spots we realistically have to devote to 2023 draft picks?


We have ten players under contract, so we have 5 roster spots and 3 two-way spots.

The 10 players under contract do NOT include Bridges, PJ, or DSJ. So ostensibly we could sign all 3 of them, roster 2 rookies, and use all 3 of our two way spots for the other rookies.

We won't do that, I imagine at least one pick we be traded and another might be used on a draft and stash.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#368 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:59 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Can someone count roster spots and speculate as to how many spots we realistically have to devote to 2023 draft picks?

Melo
Rozier/Martin/Bouknight
Hayward/McGowens
Thor
Mark/Nick/Kai

2 Way: Kobi Simmons

Add Miles, PJ, and DSJ/Theo or some other vet PG and they're at 13+1
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#369 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:17 pm

I think I'm more concerned about our other moves. I'm happy with either scoot or Miller. But, I really want us to resign both pj and dsj, on top of miles.

I hope the front office doesn't try to justify losing talent as result of who we draft.

You can talk me in to not resigning dsj if we take scoot, but I want pj back regardless.

I'm not sure I see any scenario where Kelly returns

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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#370 » by Bassman » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:38 pm

How do the Celtics do it? Here they’ve landed a very good big in Porzingis, plus got two picks (#25 tonight), and gave up Marcus Smart in a three way deal. Was Washington that desperate to get Tyus Jones, and Memphis that desperate to get Smart as a fill in with Morant suspended?
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#371 » by Diop » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:15 pm

Bassman wrote:How do the Celtics do it? Here they’ve landed a very good big in Porzingis, plus got two picks (#25 tonight), and gave up Marcus Smart in a three way deal. Was Washington that desperate to get Tyus Jones, and Memphis that desperate to get Smart as a fill in with Morant suspended?

Washington got something from nothing, if they didn’t trade zingis to a decent team, he was going to opt out of his contract and walk. So they got the firsts for smart who should be a good culture changer at Memphis. Still, Boston did well.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#372 » by MPM » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:03 pm

He'll likely see better offers, but wonder if Grant Williams would be in a position to accept our 11mm MLE if we renounce Oubre (please)?

A knockdown shooter and a Charlotte kid (Providence Day) that's high character and effort +. He's a little redundant to PJ, but would give us the ability to throw out all sorts of different looks (he'd fit well next to Mark or Nick or in a super small ball combo of PJ and Grant and Miller if we draft him) - he can play a bit on the wing as well so lineup versatility a go-go.

EDIT: I forgot about Bridges. Blocked him like a bad memory. So...scratch the above.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#373 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:51 am

mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#374 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:24 am

fatlever wrote:mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo


I wonder if there was a guy available at 2 that everyone said was a great leader and culture guy/tone setter
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#375 » by Diop » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:30 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:
fatlever wrote:mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo


I wonder if there was a guy available at 2 that everyone said was a great leader and culture guy/tone setter

I’m guessing they didn’t think so after the effort they put into the draft
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#376 » by KingCat » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:50 am

fatlever wrote:mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo


Time to sign Udonis Haslem to a supermax and get these knuckleheads in shape.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#377 » by BeesWax » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:56 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:
fatlever wrote:mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo


I wonder if there was a guy available at 2 that everyone said was a great leader and culture guy/tone setter

Exactly. We had a chance to get one and bobbled it away.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#378 » by MPM » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:36 pm

fatlever wrote:mitch speaking truth here

“We don’t have that one person, the last few years it’s fallen to the coach to be that leader… We don’t have that person right now…Can we get a leader, someone who can play and lead in the locker room?”

thats some fingers pointing right at terry, gordon and melo


At least there's organizational self-awareness. Can't build team culture around self-awareness but better than having our head in the sand. To me, Terry's the main culprit here. He has a rep as a tough tone-setting type of guy but he needs to vocalize it. Gordo is what he is - invisible oil in the engine. This said, Melo won't get a pass from me this year either - he needs to show he's committed to winning at some point - that there's some substance beneath that shiny surface.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#379 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:36 pm

I wonder who we're looking to get as a locker-room leader.

I think the Pels might be willing to move off CJ McCollum. CJ is known around the league for his maturity and leadership. Rozier, Bouknight, and Kai works. Frees up roster space, he's an upgrade over Terry, and he gives us the on-court leadership we need.

New owners will have to open up their wallets though to pay him, LaMelo, Miles, and PJ. But if we actually want to win in this league it's something they need to do.
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Re: Offseason Thread 

Post#380 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:59 pm

Speaking of leadership what do you guys think about hiring JJ Reddick as our HC?

He already admitted he likes our roster. I think he might be the next great potential HC. He's already familiar with NC given his Duke days.

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