Magic Trade #36 To Milwaukee For 2030 2nd and Cash

Post #21 » by **Howard Mass** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:08 am

MoMM wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
MoMM wrote:Expected, but bad trade as always.

Anyway, good for DeVos's family, as they have this recurrent money every single year.

It was more about getting the future 2nd.

A worst 2nd in 7 years makes lots of sense. It's only about money.

It's unprotected and having 2nds can help in trades.

MoMM · Post #22 » by **MoMM** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:18 am

Howard Mass wrote:
MoMM wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
It was more about getting the future 2nd.

A worst 2nd in 7 years makes lots of sense. It's only about money.

It's unprotected and having 2nds can help in trades.

Yes, it's unprotected, but what are the odds of it being a Top 36 pick? Bucks would need to be a super bad to have a pick in the same range. If it was for a lottery protected 1st round pick I'd be fine.

Post #23 » by **Howard Mass** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:09 am

MoMM wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
MoMM wrote:A worst 2nd in 7 years makes lots of sense. It's only about money.

It's unprotected and having 2nds can help in trades.

Yes, it's unprotected, but what are the odds of it being a Top 36 pick? Bucks would need to be a super bad to have a pick in the same range. If it was for a lottery protected 1st round pick I'd be fine.

I guess we will know in 7 years. LOL!

OrlandoMagic · Post #24 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:01 pm

Just out of curiosity how does cash consideration even work? I’ve never known and have never asked before.

MoMM · Post #25 » by **MoMM** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:32 pm

OrlandoMagic wrote:Just out of curiosity how does cash consideration even work? I’ve never known and have never asked before.

Money direct to Owner's pocket? IIRC, the last time it was around 3M for our 2nd round pick (not this year).

pepe1991 · Post #26 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:33 pm

OrlandoMagic wrote:Just out of curiosity how does cash consideration even work? I’ve never known and have never asked before.

it does nothing. It's just bag of money. There is upper limit team can recive or give to make transactions for players or picks. It doesn't count against salary, but if you take player, his salary does.

JoshuaPotter · Post #27 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:42 pm

Welcome back CASH CONSIDERATIONS! So elusive, yet always coming home. Like that cat we had named whitey as a child. The fact that we also secured a future 2nd is icing on a cake. Who knows what roster needs we will have in 7 years.

Skybox · Post #28 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:26 pm

Same thread every year...I really don't get how this is superior to putting a prospect in Lakeland/Kissimmee to bake until ready or just fade away?

There were some real interesting guys at 36 or later...what's the risk? Is it really any different than signing undrafted guys- but with more certainty of getting what you want?

p0peye · Post #29 » by **p0peye** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:30 pm

Team like Spurs would draft and stash a euro prospect.

MoMM · Post #30 » by **MoMM** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:04 pm

p0peye wrote:Team like Spurs would draft and stash a euro prospect.

We are still waiting for Fran Vazquez, I heard he will be ready next season...

Kent · Post #31 » by **Kent** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:33 pm

This isn't worth getting upset over.

Charlotte picked three times in the second round. If that's important to you, they'll take you in their fanbase. Put another way, it doesn't guarantee success or "the best way to do things."

You don't have to like it but this isn't new. Be a fan and focus on the good or don't and feel less than good. Your choice.

BlueBalls · Post #32 » by **BlueBalls** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:34 pm

It’s dumb. Period.

Message Boar · Post #33 » by **Message Boar** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:35 pm

Has any other team been consistently doing this with their second round picks in recent years, does anyone know?

Magic#1 · Post #34 » by **Magic#1** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:50 pm

Howard Mass wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
What if two 2nds wasn't available for #36?

In this case, I don't trade the pick then. I get we may have limited roster spots, but injuries also happen and with Lakeland right there, I don't just give this pick away. It wasn't that long ago that Rupert was a lotto pick and now he could be right there. Jackson is also very talented and keeping him in the G-League for the majority of the season would have worked well for him and us.

So, would you put this player on the 15 man roster or use one of the Two-Way slots on them?

Probably two way. I really appreciate what Admiral and Kevon bring, but their ceilings are limited.

VFX · Post #35 » by **VFX** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:29 pm

Lakeland must be loaded.

Optimus_Steel · Post #36 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:33 pm

MagicMatic wrote:Lakeland must be loaded.

Its Kissimmee now lol

basketballRob · Post #37 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:37 pm

We have 12 second round picks between now and 2030.

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app

OrlandoMagic · Post #38 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:58 pm

basketballRob wrote:We have 12 second round picks between now and 2030.

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app

We might even have 10 second rd picks in 2030 alone when the time comes 8-)

Post #39 » by **Howard Mass** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:23 pm

Magic#1 wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:In this case, I don't trade the pick then. I get we may have limited roster spots, but injuries also happen and with Lakeland right there, I don't just give this pick away. It wasn't that long ago that Rupert was a lotto pick and now he could be right there. Jackson is also very talented and keeping him in the G-League for the majority of the season would have worked well for him and us.

So, would you put this player on the 15 man roster or use one of the Two-Way slots on them?

Probably two way. I really appreciate what Admiral and Kevon bring, but their ceilings are limited.

Alright.

Some players will audition for the Two-Way spots in Summer League.

Message Boar · Post #40 » by **Message Boar** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:07 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Lakeland must be loaded.

Its Kissimmee now lol

True, but Lakeland is easier to type :lol:

That's gonna take some getting used to for me, I hope they change the team nickname from Magic (which is lame to begin with) to something else.