#36 - Andre Jackson Jr

[VooDoo7]

The athleticism is obviously a big deal, but what I've seen from him is some high level court vision and decision making. That to me is where he helps the Bucks.

He seems to have everything except for the shooting.

Like some others have said, if he had a jumper he would've been loooong gone by #36.

[Fotis St]

I only watched the highlights but they seem like very different players. I liked Cissoko, even compared his movement to how Zion moves. His power and quick twitch combo is nuts. But i think the ceiling for Jackson is just way higher. If he stays healthy and develops a shot, hes an all star level player. He would lack nothing. Cissoko seems to have fewer dimensions. Higher floor but lower ceiling. Plus, if he cant shoot or distribute, he doesn't really have a place on the team with Giannis here.

Thanks for your answer soxperry. Hope is all we have left my friend. It is pretty rare to improve from a 28 3p% to a close to 40%. Giannis example is right in front of us for years. When you are near 20-21 and still haven't polished at least your mechanics the path is almost always a dead end. We can hope though, good luck to him and us. I have zero expectations, kinda disappointed and I am not b*tcing. Sorry guys if I am ruining it for you. I'll take a 2-3 day break ... be well guys, Go Bucks

[emunney]

I only watched the highlights but they seem like very different players. I liked Cissoko, even compared his movement to how Zion moves. His power and quick twitch combo is nuts. But i think the ceiling for Jackson is just way higher. If he stays healthy and develops a shot, hes an all star level player. He would lack nothing. Cissoko seems to have fewer dimensions. Higher floor but lower ceiling. Plus, if he cant shoot or distribute, he doesn't really have a place on the team with Giannis here.

Thanks for your answer soxperry. Hope is all we have left my friend. It is pretty rare to improve from a 28 3p% to a close to 40%. Giannis example is right in front of us for years. When you are near 20-21 and still haven't polished at least your mechanics the path is almost always a dead end. We can hope though, good luck to him and us. I have zero expectations, kinda disappointed and I am not b*tcing. Sorry guys if I am ruining it for you. I'll take a 2-3 day break ... be well guys, Go Bucks

Dude, you're fine. You're allowed an opinion.

[M-C-G]

The athleticism is obviously a big deal, but what I've seen from him is some high level court vision and decision making. That to me is where he helps the Bucks.

He seems to have everything except for the shooting.

Like some others have said, if he had a jumper he would've been loooong gone by #36.

Yeah, may or may not work, but giving up a few million and a distant 2nd round pick to bet on a guy being an all star if he can shoot? Seems like a great thing to try.

[Baddy Chuck]

He's going to be in the rotation this year. You guys are going to be so happy with what we got here.

Absolutely. He may not be playable while Giannis is in until he has a respectable jumper, but he can certainly run with the second team.

If he's a cerebral player he'll help Giannis on the court so much more than a "40% shooter!" would.

[ShootingtheJ]

I hope Patrick Mutumbo is a better shooting coach than the previous staff.

[craig]

Watched some workout videos and it's a little weird to me that he isn't even attempting to fix his jacked shot.

Agree. For a guy of his supposed work ethic and IQ, this is the shot and the mechanics that his IQ and all of his work has settled on as the best thing? Kinda crazy.

Horst of course talked about shooting being a teachable skill, whereas 6'4" guy can't become 6'6". Easier said than done with a shot like this.

[ANTETOKOUNBROS]

Seems like a super athletic Kendall Marshall

[Licensed to Il]

Watched some workout videos and it's a little weird to me that he isn't even attempting to fix his jacked shot.

Agree. For a guy of his supposed work ethic and IQ, this is the shot and the mechanics that his IQ and all of his work has settled on as the best thing? Kinda crazy.

Horst of course talked about shooting being a teachable skill, whereas 6'4" guy can't become 6'6". Easier said than done with a shot like this.

I’ll jump in here. Im a middle school bball coach and Ive been paid to do skill development. If a player is hard working, teachable, and loves basketball you can teach them to shoot. Its not an art, its a science… keep your elbow in, release the ball off your fingertips, repeat 250 times a day.
Its not quantum physics. Players that love the game
figure it out.

[TroyD92]

I like him because he just seems to be a basketball player. Nwora, Wilson, etc had tons of projectable skills, but they clearly just didn’t get it. Jackson seems to be one of those guys that can just play.

[soxperry]

Watched some workout videos and it's a little weird to me that he isn't even attempting to fix his jacked shot.

Agree. For a guy of his supposed work ethic and IQ, this is the shot and the mechanics that his IQ and all of his work has settled on as the best thing? Kinda crazy.

Horst of course talked about shooting being a teachable skill, whereas 6'4" guy can't become 6'6". Easier said than done with a shot like this.

Im going to kindly relay to you that the type of processing and skill involved in having that intangible feel for the game, finding teammates, and making winning plays has absolutely nothing to do with ones ability to craft a shooting form. As for hard work, who knows. All we know is that it hasn't clicked yet but that he will be given every opportunity to make it happen.

[soxperry]

I want to add this: unlike guys like Lonzo and Baby Ben, this is not a guy who has been shown the red carpet from day one. Hes going to come in with a different attitude, you would think.

I could be wrong, every person has a different idea of what it means to make it. You give me 1 million dollars and a roster spot and i will spend the year chasing Instagram tail and playing Fortnite on a 300 inch screen. But i think this guy is "built different."

[Licensed to Il]

I just have a feeling that Andre Jackson is going to
bounce between the Bucks and the Herd and shoot with **** form and somehow be Shawn Marion and emerge as a NBA difference maker. Yeah, he could be a mostly G League guy. Cause his perimiter game is laughable. But the #1 way I gauge bball IQ is the degree a player maximizes his team’s strengths. Jackson doesn’t shoot because he is smart enough to realize that would be dumb. He drops dimes. He dunks like TMac. I’m so excited about this cat, warts and all.

[msiris]

Watched some workout videos and it's a little weird to me that he isn't even attempting to fix his jacked shot.

Agree. For a guy of his supposed work ethic and IQ, this is the shot and the mechanics that his IQ and all of his work has settled on as the best thing? Kinda crazy.

Horst of course talked about shooting being a teachable skill, whereas 6'4" guy can't become 6'6". Easier said than done with a shot like this.

I’ll jump in here. Im a middle school bball coach and Ive been paid to do skill development. If a player is hard working, teachable, and loves basketball you can teach them to shoot. Its not an art, its a science… keep your elbow in, release the ball off your fingertips, repeat 250 times a day.
Its not quantum physics. Players that love the game
figure it out.

I found it easier to teach kids at a younger age. The problem I have is haven't these players who get drafted already had plenty of coaching and instructions already? i would say yes.

[Ron Swanson]

I really don't wanna throw cold water on the idea cuz I like him as a role guy, but let's not fall into the trap again of thinking work ethic = he'll just figure it out. We know this isn't true because we literally have the outlier work ethic demon in Giannis who not only hasn't improved a lick as a distance shooter or from the FT line, but arguably has gotten worse.

I'm just gonna choose to focus on what Jackson does well and have zero expectations that he's ever gonna become a serviceable 3PT shooter, because his shot mechanics and touch, and I can't stress this enough, are horrendous and maybe (re: probably) unfixable.

[Licensed to Il]

Agree. For a guy of his supposed work ethic and IQ, this is the shot and the mechanics that his IQ and all of his work has settled on as the best thing? Kinda crazy.

Horst of course talked about shooting being a teachable skill, whereas 6'4" guy can't become 6'6". Easier said than done with a shot like this.

I’ll jump in here. Im a middle school bball coach and Ive been paid to do skill development. If a player is hard working, teachable, and loves basketball you can teach them to shoot. Its not an art, its a science… keep your elbow in, release the ball off your fingertips, repeat 250 times a day.
Its not quantum physics. Players that love the game
figure it out.

I found it easier to teach kids at a younger age. The problem I have is haven't these players who get drafted already had plenty of coaching and instructions already? i would say yes.

Totally reasonable observation. My 9th grade son was the most coachable player I ever worked with, till grade 8. Then he suddenly knew it all and now he shoots with an elbow that points to the horizon and literally tears up when I tell him to point it to the floor. Meanwhile my 6th grader asks me every day what he should do better? Coachability is a huge component of improvement.

[lightningrodman]

[The Bucks draft Lob Threat Draymond Green] Hmm, not sure about this guy, he won’t be able to stand in any of the blue boxes…

[Shaffty]

I really don't wanna throw cold water on the idea cuz I like him as a role guy, but let's not fall into the trap again of thinking work ethic = he'll just figure it out. We know this isn't true because we literally have the outlier work ethic demon in Giannis who not only hasn't improved a lick as a distance shooter or from the FT line, but arguably has gotten worse.

I'm just gonna choose to focus on what Jackson does well and have zero expectations that he's ever gonna become a serviceable 3PT shooter, because his shot mechanics and touch, and I can't stress this enough, are horrendous and maybe (re: probably) unfixable.

he doesnt ever have to shoot well to have an impactful career

[Ron Swanson]

I really don't wanna throw cold water on the idea cuz I like him as a role guy, but let's not fall into the trap again of thinking work ethic = he'll just figure it out. We know this isn't true because we literally have the outlier work ethic demon in Giannis who not only hasn't improved a lick as a distance shooter or from the FT line, but arguably has gotten worse.

I'm just gonna choose to focus on what Jackson does well and have zero expectations that he's ever gonna become a serviceable 3PT shooter, because his shot mechanics and touch, and I can't stress this enough, are horrendous and maybe (re: probably) unfixable.

he doesnt ever have to shoot well to have an impactful career

Exactly

[Ill-yasova]

I’m actually really high on this guy after everything I’ve read and seen. Good handle, good defender, good (smart) passer, plus size and athleticism. Obviously the shot needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up but we saw it with Lonzo Ball, it can be done (sometimes). Even if he never becomes a great shooter guys he like an impact player overall and a hell of a transition partner for Giannis and (hopefully) Marjon. They’re basically doing with the Packers have done the last few years and getting guys with unteachable athleticism and physical traits and trying to develop the things they don’t do well.

I think what we all have to get used to is that our offensive strategy is going to change a lot going forward. This is likely going to be a heavy transition team and they’ve drafted and signed 2-ways accordingly. The days of four shooters and Giannis in the half court might get replaced, somewhat, by more PnR’s and baseline cuts. We’ve seen the four shooter formula fail year after year in the playoffs, even in ‘21. I’m excited to see what the new plan is.