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Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1941 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:54 am

marson wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Brooklyn is flush with picks, expiring's, and money for free agency. Things can change very quickly for them.


Your goal is to win a championship, you going to Miami or an organization that’s never been able to win one?


Dame is almost 33 right? If he wants to WIN now, he knows where to go. If he goes to BKN it will be the same boat in Portland.

They can muster a decent roster in a year to two but still not a guarantee while Bam and Jimmy proved they can win the EAST NOW.


100% it’s makes WAY too much sense. If Pat is who everyone says or still thinks he is hell get this done. This has classic Oat Riley written all over it
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1942 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:58 am

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Get it done Patrick!!


I personally don't want Dame if it means gutting our roster of its depth (herro, caleb), keeping both Duncan and Lowry on this roster and being even further into the tax so we can't make any moves (like keep Gabe or get grant Williams / dillon brooks / chrisitian wood) with MLE because we'd take in 46M and send out 38-39ish. And it would ofc strip us of all our youth (jaime and jovic) and future tradeable frps.

I want Dame but let's be reasonable and find a more sensible middle ground.


There's no way Miami FO will pull the trigger on this if Portland does not take salary in return, outside of expirings and rookie deals with the current CBA.

Getting Dame at a more reasonable cost will be key and that starts with him demanding a trade to MIA. Gutting the whole team and going up in salary is just stupid when it can be easily averted.


Right? Does everyone have amnesia? Just few days ago Pat stated he won't be making hasty decisions without understanding the impact. Hence why running it back and being patient as the smarter option as we navigate our way around this new CBA.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1943 » by marson » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:01 am

Guys chill out on 3ammy, just like you, he is just stating his opinion on how to improve the roster :lol:

and I really think we are in Step 1 on getting Dame. Portland not being able to flip that 3rd pick/Simon for an All-star is a sign that Portland is looking to rebuild. Now, it really boils down to if he wants here. It's the Beal scenario again Part 2.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1944 » by HeatFanDan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:01 am

3ballbomber wrote:
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I personally don't want Dame if it means gutting our roster of its depth (herro, caleb), keeping both Duncan and Lowry on this roster and being even further into the tax so we can't make any moves (like keep Gabe or get grant Williams / dillon brooks / chrisitian wood) with MLE because we'd take in 46M and send out 38-39ish. And it would ofc strip us of all our youth (jaime and jovic) and future tradeable frps.

I want Dame but let's be reasonable and find a more sensible middle ground.


There's no way Miami FO will pull the trigger on this if Portland does not take salary in return, outside of expirings and rookie deals with the current CBA.

Getting Dame at a more reasonable cost will be key and that starts with him demanding a trade to MIA. Gutting the whole team and going up in salary is just stupid when it can be easily averted.


Right? Does everyone have amnesia? Just few days ago Pat stated he won't be making hasty decisions without understanding the impact. Hence why running it back and being patient as the smarter option as we navigate our way around this new CBA.

Meanwhile the Celtics have like a trillion dollar payroll. lol
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1945 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:02 am

Get Dame.

We can replace the Caleb's of the world. We can find more in the undrafted/development cycle.

We can't find Lillard's in the undrafted pile.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1946 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:04 am

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Get Dame.

We can replace the Caleb's of the world. We can find more in the undrafted/development cycle.

We can't find Lillard's in the undrafted pile.


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Post#1947 » by wade44 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:05 am

marson wrote:Guys chill out on 3ammy, just like you, he is just stating his opinion on how to improve the roster :lol:

and I really think we are in Step 1 on getting Dame. Portland not being able to flip that 3rd pick/Simon for an All-star is a sign that Portland is looking to rebuild. Now, it really boils down to if he wants here. It's the Beal scenario again Part 2.


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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1948 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:05 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Get Dame.

We can replace the Caleb's of the world. We can find more in the undrafted/development cycle.

We can't find Lillard's in the undrafted pile.


Be very careful saying this!


Take the advice that MWP gave me earlier

Just place that dude on foe, you won't see his posts anymore, and move on.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1949 » by Rapaz » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 am

I’m jerking off in my trailer thinking of my Bulls fleecing Pat for DeRozan. :pray:
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1950 » by Hallstar » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 am

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Maybe to go over the tax this season (22-23) because of the poison pill provision, make sure to avoid the new 2nd apron next season and possibly get under the tax during next season? All while trying to get assets for a trade.

We're not trading him for no damn cap purposes. You would've traded him for Oladipo, how would that have worked out?

I just said what the possibility of Miami currently testing the market for Herro would be since his contract goes up 20+ million July 1st with a team that may be in the 2nd tax apron. You should really go read up at what happens when you go into the 2nd apron, it's not good.

This was just an answer only to why Miami was testing the market out but since you asked how trading Herro would have worked...

21-22 - Herro was a 6th man, Miami was first in the East, they went to game 7 of the ECF while Herro poured in 12.6 points per game.
22-23 - Herro was a starter, Miami came in 7th in the East, almost lost 2 play-in games, he got hurt and Miami got to the finals.

Out of 41 career playoff games, Herro has had 6 20+ point games for Miami and is slated to make nearly ~30 mil a year. He's averaging 14.0 ppg in the playoffs which includes the great 37 point game he had against the Boston to help Miami beat Boston by 3.

Vincent, who got to shoot the ball with Herro out had 5 20+ point games this last playoffs and played better defense then Herro and will command a much smaller contract then Herro because of his age.

I think Miami would have been just fine which might also be another reason they're testing out the market for what they might be able to get for him.

Miami came 7th because Oladipo who was supposed to be the 6th man could not hold up his end of the bargain and we had no bench leadership. As soon as Lowry went to the bench the team started to look more balanced. We just took way too long to do it. Gabe, Strus and DUncan put together don't get you the value of Herro so who do you think will be shed if you need to look at salary?
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Post#1951 » by HeatFanDan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:11 am

Get a sense of humor, guys. Geez.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1952 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:12 am

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:Get Dame.

We can replace the Caleb's of the world. We can find more in the undrafted/development cycle.

We can't find Lillard's in the undrafted pile.


Be very careful saying this!


Take the advice that MWP gave me earlier

Just place that dude on foe, you won't see his posts anymore, and move on.

Glad it’s working out for you Grump
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1953 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:14 am

Rapaz wrote:I’m jerking off in my trailer thinking of my Bulls fleecing Pat for DeRozan. :pray:


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Post#1954 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:14 am

3ballbomber completely ruined this forum.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1955 » by HeatFanDan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:14 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Be very careful saying this!


Take the advice that MWP gave me earlier

Just place that dude on foe, you won't see his posts anymore, and move on.

Glad it’s working out for you Grump

Yeah, my posts are SO incendiary. :roll:
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1956 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:15 am

Rapaz wrote:I’m jerking off in my trailer thinking of my Bulls fleecing Pat for DeRozan. :pray:


This phucking guy :lol:
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1957 » by HeatFanDan » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:16 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:3ballbomber completely ruined this forum.

False. Best poster on here by a mile, and has a sense of humor to boot.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1958 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:16 am

Rapaz wrote:I’m jerking off in my trailer thinking of my Bulls fleecing Pat for DeRozan. :pray:


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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1959 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:16 am

Hallstar wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Hallstar wrote:We're not trading him for no damn cap purposes. You would've traded him for Oladipo, how would that have worked out?

I just said what the possibility of Miami currently testing the market for Herro would be since his contract goes up 20+ million July 1st with a team that may be in the 2nd tax apron. You should really go read up at what happens when you go into the 2nd apron, it's not good.

This was just an answer only to why Miami was testing the market out but since you asked how trading Herro would have worked...

21-22 - Herro was a 6th man, Miami was first in the East, they went to game 7 of the ECF while Herro poured in 12.6 points per game.
22-23 - Herro was a starter, Miami came in 7th in the East, almost lost 2 play-in games, he got hurt and Miami got to the finals.

Out of 41 career playoff games, Herro has had 6 20+ point games for Miami and is slated to make nearly ~30 mil a year. He's averaging 14.0 ppg in the playoffs which includes the great 37 point game he had against the Boston to help Miami beat Boston by 3.

Vincent, who got to shoot the ball with Herro out had 5 20+ point games this last playoffs and played better defense then Herro and will command a much smaller contract then Herro because of his age.

I think Miami would have been just fine which might also be another reason they're testing out the market for what they might be able to get for him.

Miami came 7th because Oladipo who was supposed to be the 6th man could not hold up his end of the bargain and we had no bench leadership. As soon as Lowry went to the bench the team started to look more balanced. We just took way too long to do it. Gabe, Strus and DUncan put together don't get you the value of Herro so who do you think will be shed if you need to look at salary?


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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1960 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:17 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:3ballbomber completely ruined this forum.


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