Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread

[Dmavs12]

Bullock defense ability is overrated. Maxi is already 32 and with injury history. Collins is still young, not to mention his potential to get 20+10, while Bullock + Maxi combined and still cannot reach.

Yes this is true, Bullock and Maxi are only average/good role players and we can replace them easily but i don't think Collins is good for us.

Luka-Kyrie-Collins can't play together unless Kawhi and prime Dwight Howard are the other 2 starters

We have no choice, if we want to go young and talent upgrade, while we don’t have much assets to offer, hunting for overpaid player like Collins is the only route. Just like what we have just done to acquire Holmes.

I agree with you hunting for overpaid players is the route we’ll have to go, but I don’t think Collin’s is the answer here. Luka kyrie and Collin’s would have too many problems defensively, and for his salary, he needs to be on the floor when both are out there. And IF that did happen, you could forget about lively being the center of that line up. Poor kid would be running around trying to fix all the defensive issues. His confidence would be gone by the end of the a season. Probably the all star break.

[Dmavs12]

I think lively is the number 2 for center. I expect McGee and holmes to be traded out, Powell to be resigned, and a veteran center brought in.
I want poeltl, but getting him for the MLE is doubtful. People on here were saying he was aiming for the 18 range, which is a little under what THJ is making right now. Can anyone think of a package between BOS - TOR - DAL that brings Williams and poeltl here? Assuming raptors decide to rebuild.

This front court looks completely revamped and ready for a good run. I’m not sure if it’s possible, so feel free to correct me.
Luka / hardy
Kyrie / bullock
Green / omax
Williams / Maxi / Omax
Poeltl/ lively / Powell

It probably has to be two separate deals. If Poetl is bent on leaving the rebuilding situation in Toronto (which he himself said he doesnt want to be part of a rebuild) maybe Poetl for Holmes straight up. Then maybe the MLE for Grant Williams? Boston likely looks to cut salary given they will have 3 players paid the max.

But Poetl feels like a long term piece because he's still young. I'd like Lively to eventually take over the startinf spot as soon as he can. Cant develop skills seated on the bench. Only way to learn.

Brook Lopez is free. He’s 35 so he’s clearly not a long term answer. He’s a solid vet with Championship experience. He’s decent from 3 the last couple of seasons. Seems like he would be a good stop gap Center that can actually contribute now.

Is there a way they can sign Lopez with the MLE and then trade for De’Andre Hunter (while keeping Green and Hardy)?

I like the idea of Lopez. I’d actually prefer to do him on a 2/40 deal if he would accept somthing like that. Gives lively 2 years to get his feet wet in the NBA. Takes the pressure off him and let him start when he’s ready.

[leolozon]

Short term thinking has been killing the Mavs for a while. They can’t win next year. I wish they let the young guys play and make mistake, but it won’t happen.

Luka-Hardy-Green-Prosper-Lively.

There’s potential there with some balance on offense and defense. Though it’s all about if they can make 3s and space the floor which is uncertain to say the least.

[Michaellam1987]

Yes this is true, Bullock and Maxi are only average/good role players and we can replace them easily but i don't think Collins is good for us.

Luka-Kyrie-Collins can't play together unless Kawhi and prime Dwight Howard are the other 2 starters

We have no choice, if we want to go young and talent upgrade, while we don’t have much assets to offer, hunting for overpaid player like Collins is the only route. Just like what we have just done to acquire Holmes.

I agree with you hunting for overpaid players is the route we’ll have to go, but I don’t think Collin’s is the answer here. Luka kyrie and Collin’s would have too many problems defensively, and for his salary, he needs to be on the floor when both are out there. And IF that did happen, you could forget about lively being the center of that line up. Poor kid would be running around trying to fix all the defensive issues. His confidence would be gone by the end of the a season. Probably the all star break.

I don’t like Collin that much either, but pls name me a player that is 1) young enough to grow together with Luka, 2) athletic/mobile enough, 3) not much injury history, 4) either a big wing or starting caliber PF, 5)most importantly opposite team willing to trade within incoming assets.

[BliscoSantos]

Short term thinking has been killing the Mavs for a while. They can’t win next year. I wish they let the young guys play and make mistake, but it won’t happen.

Luka-Hardy-Green-Prosper-Lively.

There’s potential there with some balance on offense and defense. Though it’s all about if they can make 3s and space the floor which is uncertain to say the least.

That won't happen since they made the deal with Brooklyn for Kyrie...letting go of Kyrie for nothing would be a disaster for the Mavs and unfortunately there isn't a good sign and trade they could do since Kyrie tanked his value...Best way for them is to probably resign Kyrie,rebuild his value up and maybe get something valuable in a trade next offseason

[Darren]

As a team, I see an edge to play quicker tempo. From last season, McGee plays really well with Kyrie without. The tempo is different. Hardy and Green play very well in such a system.

I wonder how Luka re-invent the playing style this summer. But at least, you know Luka take this quite seriously. From the team transformation, I think quickening the tempo with 2nd unit could be a quick start. With a willing runners with size advantages, establishing positions early could create mismatches and opportunities everywhere.

Is McGee and Porzingis really bad as a player? But both performs significantly better with quicker tempo and more involvement. Something must go wrong. Let's figure it out.

If McGee can play and Green can be steady on both end, no way last season's embarrassment happens at all.

The Mavs better have plans on players development. In particular, on defense, rebounding and shooting. When the Mavs selects, I just think about Dirk being a shooting coach and Chandler being a defensive scheme setter. I think Lively can surpass Gobert and Chandler. Gobert is great rim protector due to size. However, the effect is not influential among teammates. If the team has a master mind to set traps and execute, the result could be totally different.

[Mr B]

OT, but am I the only one here who is surprised that the Celtics are favored to win the championship because of the KP trade? I thought they took a step backwards because KP is often injured and isn’t the rim protector he used to be. Maybe I am biased based on his last season in Dallas.

I know the Celtics and their fans blame Marcus Smart for their playoff loss but they’re going to realize that KP doesn’t have the same heart that Smart does. I think the Celtics lost a lot more than just skill. KP isn’t a dog and is a bit soft and gets pushed around. They’re going to regret trading Marcus Smart.

[arkuo]

OT, but am I the only one here who is surprised that the Celtics are favored to win the championship because of the KP trade? I thought they took a step backwards because KP is often injured and isn’t the rim protector he used to be. Maybe I am biased based on his last season in Dallas.

I know the Celtics and their fans blame Marcus Smart for their playoff loss but they’re going to realize that KP doesn’t have the same heart that Smart does. I think the Celtics lost a lot more than just skill. KP isn’t a dog and is a bit soft and gets pushed around. They’re going to regret trading Marcus Smart.

If KP had the same heart as Marcus Smart, you get Kareem Abdul Jabar.

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Would Bruce Brown being a little bit too small as the big wing that play 3/4 positions that we are looking for?

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Would Bruce Brown being a little bit too small as the big wing that play 3/4 positions that we are looking for?

My guess would be add him as the 3rd ball handler and then trade for a wing.

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[Mavrelous]

Bruce Brown is the prime example for swiss army knife guy, defends, cut, handles and can run P&R and shoot, he's not great at any of these, but he's average to good on all of them.
Would be a huge aquisition.

[ejs78]

Bruce Brown is the prime example for swiss army knife guy, defends, cut, handles and can run P&R and shoot, he's not great at any of these, but he's average to good on all of them.
Would be a huge aquisition.

And he's mixed it up with Luka a few times which I love

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[BeiBeau]

Bruce Brown is the prime example for swiss army knife guy, defends, cut, handles and can run P&R and shoot, he's not great at any of these, but he's average to good on all of them.
Would be a huge aquisition.

If we get Bruce Brown which would be awesome we then have to flip Bullock+ for a bigger wing. Brown, Green, and Bullock would be our wings which would leave us with 3 guys who defend 1-3 well but struggle on 4s.

[Mr B]

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[Mavrelous]

For the record, I think he's back in Denver, or Kings are offering him above MLE money.
Mavs should think smaller, like getting Taireen Prince for free by lumping him into the Bertans trade, yhat's a servicable 20 MPG big wing who can defend and shoot.

[arkuo]

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Bruce Brown and Kyrie are buddies from Brooklyn. If it helps, Kyrie is an extra "recruiter". It's not tampering if he's doing the calling.

[arkuo]

For the record, I think he's back in Denver, or Kings are offering him above MLE money.
Mavs should think smaller, like getting Taireen Prince for free by lumping him into the Bertans trade, yhat's a servicable 20 MPG big wing who can defend and shoot.

Taurean Prince and Luka had their run ins. I dont think he'd be welcome in the locker room.

[Mavrelous]

For the record, I think he's back in Denver, or Kings are offering him above MLE money.
Mavs should think smaller, like getting Taireen Prince for free by lumping him into the Bertans trade, yhat's a servicable 20 MPG big wing who can defend and shoot.

Taurean Prince and Luka had their run ins. I dont think he'd be welcome in the locker room.

Marquese Chriss made the kiss kiss hug hug, Prince will too it's his best option to get another contract

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This is GREAT.