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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#61 » by Samurai » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:57 pm

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He'll probably contribute more than James Wiseman right out of the gate.

If he can get 5 minutes of playing time every other game, he'd be contributing more than Wiseman. You can't contribute anything if you can't get on the court.

I used to think that having people like Steph, Klay and Kerr in the building could help rookies learn how to shoot. But seeing that having them around did nothing to make Jacob Evans a better shooter means it will largely be up to TJD to turn himself into an NBA shooter. We don't need another guy that defenses can ignore so they can double up on Steph.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#62 » by Dom801e » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:04 pm

His shot form looks ok. He seemed to be better as a freshman. I think he just lost confidence in it.

But I wouldn’t worry about teams sagging off of him to bother Steph because I don’t think he play much with Steph. I think he is on 2nd unit with Kuminga and CP3 just spams PnR with them. He is a very good big to big passer.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#63 » by 510TWSS » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:08 pm

how's his mandarin tho? =)
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#64 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:10 pm

Samurai wrote:
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He'll probably contribute more than James Wiseman right out of the gate.

If he can get 5 minutes of playing time every other game, he'd be contributing more than Wiseman. You can't contribute anything if you can't get on the court.

I used to think that having people like Steph, Klay and Kerr in the building could help rookies learn how to shoot. But seeing that having them around did nothing to make Jacob Evans a better shooter means it will largely be up to TJD to turn himself into an NBA shooter. We don't need another guy that defenses can ignore so they can double up on Steph.


Even the best team players cant make Euroleague backups look good in the NBA.. sorry to Evans but I'll never not be salty about that pick

I'm a little worried about the way fans are lumping expectations on this guy... yes, he's a good fit, yes at 57 he's a great value as a lot of us would have been fine with him at 19. But the odds that he jumps right in, as a big, and has a positive impact? Slim.. even smart players take some time to get used to the system. Wiggins flashed potential early but didnt really get it until the 2nd half of his first full season with us.. DDV needed about 1/4 or 1/2 the season.. just need people to keep in mind that the first bar he needs to clear is being better than JMG
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#65 » by Upperclass » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:23 pm

If he was taken at 19 and BPodz taken at 57 this guy would be hyped through the roof based on the same highlights
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#66 » by Onus » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:05 pm

Upperclass wrote:If he was taken at 19 and BPodz taken at 57 this guy would be hyped through the roof based on the same highlights

His highlights are just dunks and post ups. But he’s 6’9” and going to turn 24, so he’s an undersized and older center and will have to post up and score against taller, longer, bigger players consistently. He also struggles to defend size. I would’ve been disappointed if we drafted him 19. At 57 though I’m ecstatic.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#67 » by EvanZ » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:20 pm

Dom801e wrote:His shot form looks ok. He seemed to be better as a freshman. I think he just lost confidence in it.


My man, this dude is not a shooter and almost certainly never will be.
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Post#68 » by HiRez » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:53 pm

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Dom801e wrote:His shot form looks ok. He seemed to be better as a freshman. I think he just lost confidence in it.


My man, this dude is not a shooter and almost certainly never will be.

He walked into the NBA Combine and hit 9 of 12 3s, SSS sure, but you never know. No, I certainly wouldn't consider him "a shooter", however some have said he "can't shoot" and I don't think that's accurate either.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#69 » by EvanZ » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:10 pm

He can't shoot in the sense that Kevon Looney can't shoot.

Why is the default always to believe that literally every prospect (even one who literally attempted 3 3s in in FOUR YEARS) "can shoot"?

Shouldn't the default assumption be he can't shoot until he proves otherwise? Wouldn't that be the logical assumption?

I mean unless your defintion of "can shoot" is that he literally can throw a round orange object at a tall stansion with a net and a circular rim attached to it. In that sense, I "can shoot" and so can you. :lol:
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Post#70 » by HiRez » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:51 pm

Kuminga can dunk, but unlike Kuminga, TJD has a lot of ways of getting to the rim, uses the spin move frequently, splits defenders, doesn't get roadblocked, and uses his body, length, and big hands to keep the ball away from defenders as he's going up. Also unlike Kuminga, he seems to go for the kill (dunk) every time, but also has a soft layup touch when called for. Defenders at the next lever are bigger, longer, and faster of course, be he looks like he has plenty of ways to work inside. And should be fantastic in transition. Unlike Wiseman, superb timing and instincts on blocks!
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#71 » by HiRez » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:15 am

Pretty good scouting report video, shows some aspects of his game other than dunks.



Would be good to pair w/ a lead guard who gets trapped a lot.

Hmm, do we know anyone like that? Maybe someone who often draws 2-3 defenders? Kerr might like him for defense but I think it's going to be really hard to not use him offensively because we don't really have anyone else on the roster with those skills. Maybe Kuminga can get there, but he's not there yet and TJD's hands and footwork are way better than Kuminga's.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#72 » by Dom801e » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:22 am

He’s not going to do well against bigger post up guys, but luckily there aren’t many to worry about. And he’s not a shooter. But he pretty much does everything else at average to above average. The epitome of a solid role player.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#73 » by TrueFan420 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:28 am

Dom801e wrote:I think the 2nd unit will have a whole different offense with Paul running PnR w/Kuminga & TJD.

It will need to but Kerr has always been hesitant to do that. We saw glimpse of it in 2022 when we won but it’s been right back to trying to square peg round whole our bench unit.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#74 » by Twinkie defense » Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:29 am

I mentioned this in the Dunleavy thread... apparently there was some behind the scenes maneuvering to get TJD on the roster. Once it was clear that he was slipping (Warriors had him late first round on their board), Dunleavy called TJD's agent, promised a multi-year contract and a spot on the 15-man roster if he slipped to the Wizards' pick. So TJD's agent started sabotaging other teams from picking him.

TJD's agent, BTW, is Mike Dunleavy's BROTHER :lol:
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#75 » by KevinMcreynolds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:00 am

He’s not his agent, he’s just at the same agency that represents him.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#76 » by DaHef » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:45 am

The dude flies up and down the court, he could run larger plodders ragged. He's made to order as a small ball center.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#77 » by clyde21 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:11 am

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Dom801e wrote:His shot form looks ok. He seemed to be better as a freshman. I think he just lost confidence in it.


My man, this dude is not a shooter and almost certainly never will be.

He walked into the NBA Combine and hit 9 of 12 3s, SSS sure, but you never know. No, I certainly wouldn't consider him "a shooter", however some have said he "can't shoot" and I don't think that's accurate either.


never say never but he's shown exactly 0 propensity to shoot over four years at Indiana, never even really attempted outside shots and his FT% remained flat across his entire time in college

really no indicators that he'll get. below average and flat FT% that never improved in college...and sometimes you get bad shooters but at least they attempt shots. but he's not even attempting them in live games...you just don't go from that to being able to shoot unless you're banking on outlier development...and it's called outlier for a reason
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#78 » by Bizzy_Bee » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:47 am

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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#79 » by EvanZ » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:45 pm

I thought TJD would have been great for Sacramento coming off the bench. That fast pace suits his style. Mini-Sabonis basically.

One thing I love about TJD is the size of his hands. They are massive.
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Re: Warriors acquire Trayce Jackson-Davis from Wizards 

Post#80 » by floppymoose » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:49 pm

If he can defend a bit, rebound a lot, and not turn it over, he can help in his rookie year in short spurts, even if he has no offense that year.

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