Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread

Darren · Post #121 » by **Darren** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:01 am

Yuta Wannabe, anyone? I like the way Yuta defends Luka and shooting from depth. I don't know what would Brooklyn do. But I'd rather have Wannabe than Grant William. Yuta's 28. And Brooklyn needs to re-sign some pieces. I don't think Brooklyn will throw a lot to Yuta. I think Yuta is an underrated pick up.

BeiBeau · Post #122 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:55 am

Darren wrote:Yuta Wannabe, anyone? I like the way Yuta defends Luka and shooting from depth. I don't know what would Brooklyn do. But I'd rather have Wannabe than Grant William. Yuta's 28. And Brooklyn needs to re-sign some pieces. I don't think Brooklyn will throw a lot to Yuta. I think Yuta is an underrated pick up.

Yuta is interesting. How much do we believe in his shot? If he really is 44% then yeah go for it. Not with the MLE money but he could be a BAE guy.

He is in no way shape or form even close to Grant Williams though. Williams is way better and better value even at triple the price.

Really unrealistic though. Even if Dallas can land a whale like Brown or Williams with the MLE there probably won’t be any space left to BAE Yuta unless Kyrie signs for like 40 million a year. And they dump McGee.

Michaellam1987 · Post #123 » by **Michaellam1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:03 am

Dmavs12 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Don't buy it and don't want it

He is expiring tho

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Yeah, this can’t be real, unless they’re giving up something else good in return. This guy solves nothing for us.

He is the big wing player that we are looking for

BeiBeau · Post #124 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:58 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Don't buy it and don't want it

He is expiring tho

Read on Twitter
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Yeah, this can’t be real, unless they’re giving up something else good in return. This guy solves nothing for us.

He is the big wing player that we are looking for

Yeah my ideas were THJ, Bullock, McGee for Harris. I don’t know if it’s enough but THJ and Bullock would for sure be a get for them.

Luka/ Kyrie
Kyrie/ Hardy
Green/ OMax/ Vet Min(Holiday?)
Harris/ Kleber
Holmes/ Lively/ Powell

My other idea was 3 teams,

THJ, Bullock, Holmes to Philly
McGee, 2 2nds from Philly to Washington
Harris, 6 Million TPE to Dallas

Luka/ Kyrie
Kyrie/ Hardy
Green/ MLE
Harris/ Kleber/ OMax
Powell/ Lively

Dallas saves about 8 million on the 2nd one so we can get Harris and the MLE

Dmavs12 · Post #125 » by **Dmavs12** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:03 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Don't buy it and don't want it

He is expiring tho

Read on Twitter
?t=60ZvSSsJKGAcffVmuuHOvg&s=19

Sent from my SM-G960U using RealGM Forums mobile app

Yeah, this can’t be real, unless they’re giving up something else good in return. This guy solves nothing for us.

He is the big wing player that we are looking for

Cuban: “I think we need a center that can protect the rim. I think we need to improve our rebounding and offensive rebounding from the wings and the power forward position. I think that’s where our biggest needs are.”

Harris addresses non of this.

Darren · Post #126 » by **Darren** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:36 am

BeiBeau wrote:
Darren wrote:Yuta Wannabe, anyone? I like the way Yuta defends Luka and shooting from depth. I don't know what would Brooklyn do. But I'd rather have Wannabe than Grant William. Yuta's 28. And Brooklyn needs to re-sign some pieces. I don't think Brooklyn will throw a lot to Yuta. I think Yuta is an underrated pick up.

Yuta is interesting. How much do we believe in his shot? If he really is 44% then yeah go for it. Not with the MLE money but he could be a BAE guy.

He is in no way shape or form even close to Grant Williams though. Williams is way better and better value even at triple the price.

Really unrealistic though. Even if Dallas can land a whale like Brown or Williams with the MLE there probably won’t be any space left to BAE Yuta unless Kyrie signs for like 40 million a year. And they dump McGee.

Yuta plays like Eddie Najera with Reddick's jump shot. Not long ago, the Mavs near blow out Brooklyn. Watanabe checks in and forces some turnovers, offensive rebounds and hits couple of shots. And you look at the highlights. Really quick release. The percentage is not coming by chance. I like the never-give-up attitude. I like Watanabe more than GW.

Darren · Post #127 » by **Darren** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:38 am

Indeed, I like Watanabe more than Bullock who can't play well on both ends at the same time.

BeiBeau · Post #128 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:00 am

Darren wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Darren wrote:Yuta Wannabe, anyone? I like the way Yuta defends Luka and shooting from depth. I don't know what would Brooklyn do. But I'd rather have Wannabe than Grant William. Yuta's 28. And Brooklyn needs to re-sign some pieces. I don't think Brooklyn will throw a lot to Yuta. I think Yuta is an underrated pick up.

Yuta is interesting. How much do we believe in his shot? If he really is 44% then yeah go for it. Not with the MLE money but he could be a BAE guy.

He is in no way shape or form even close to Grant Williams though. Williams is way better and better value even at triple the price.

Really unrealistic though. Even if Dallas can land a whale like Brown or Williams with the MLE there probably won’t be any space left to BAE Yuta unless Kyrie signs for like 40 million a year. And they dump McGee.

Yuta plays like Eddie Najera with Reddick's jump shot. Not long ago, the Mavs near blow out Brooklyn. Watanabe checks in and forces some turnovers, offensive rebounds and hits couple of shots. And you look at the highlights. Really quick release. The percentage is not coming by chance. I like the never-give-up attitude. I like Watanabe more than GW.

I understand the fascination with him. It’s not likely Dallas can add him with the cap situation. But if Kyrie signed starting at 40 million a year instead of 47 I think he’s a good BAE target. I agree his shot looks good. I don’t think he’s 44% though. If he’s 40% then I like him enough. He’s just not a MLE. The MLE is used to add starters and Watanabe is good for a solid 15 minutes.

I’m not gonna sit here and sell you on Grant Williams over Watanabe because I don’t have to. Williams is a starting level player in the NBA and Watanabe is a rotation level player. They’re just not in the same tier and considering the Williams is approaching his prime and Watanabe is in his they will not be close in terms of their next contracts.

41Dirk41 · Post #129 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:42 am

Source said that Sixers asked Mobley, Allen and 1FRP for Harris... I hope it's not true otherwise they need mental treatment :lol:

arkuo · Post #130 » by **arkuo** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:45 am

Any interest in Cam Johnson from BKN? He's RFA. He's 6'9 can play D. He can be the starting PF. He's got size over guys like Bruce Brown who's 6'4.

Post #131 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:03 am

Stretch and waiving Bullock open both MLE and BAE with Kyrie max, and even keeps the 4 mil TPE usable, Bullock makes 10.5 and has 5.5 gauarnteed, S&W puts him at less than 2 mils, so even if you max Kyrie, you'd have 20M under the Apron, 12.4 MLE, BAE 4.5, and TPE 4M.
One major problem with this, decision has to be made by June 28th, before start of FA, so it'd be a gamble.
I think it's bad business, Bullock is a positive value IMO, but it's a possibility.

Michaellam1987 · Post #132 » by **Michaellam1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:04 am

arkuo wrote:Any interest in Cam Johnson from BKN? He's RFA. He's 6'9 can play D. He can be the starting PF. He's got size over guys like Bruce Brown who's 6'4.

We just have MLE of 12.4M. No chance at all. Forget about it.

Post #133 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:04 am

arkuo wrote:Any interest in Cam Johnson from BKN? He's RFA. He's 6'9 can play D. He can be the starting PF. He's got size over guys like Bruce Brown who's 6'4.

Only if Kyrie leaves or THJ is traded, right now, everything should go to rebounding and defense.

Michaellam1987 · Post #134 » by **Michaellam1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:11 am

Dmavs12 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
Yeah, this can’t be real, unless they’re giving up something else good in return. This guy solves nothing for us.

He is the big wing player that we are looking for

Cuban: “I think we need a center that can protect the rim. I think we need to improve our rebounding and offensive rebounding from the wings and the power forward position. I think that’s where our biggest needs are.”

Harris addresses non of this.

He is the big wing that can play either forward position. He has a down year mainly due to not properly utilised in PHI. He can be our own “Aaron Gordon” type player. If we can somehow acquire him by not giving up premium asset. We should strongly consider it. The only thing is PHI won’t give up on him so easily. Poor rebounding is mainly due to lack of size in both forward position.

Post #135 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:15 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:He is the big wing that can play either forward position. He has a down year mainly due to not properly utilised in PHI. He can be our own “Aaron Gordon” type player. If we can somehow acquire him by not giving up premium asset. We should strongly consider it. The only thing is PHI won’t give up on him so easily. Poor rebounding is mainly due to lack of size in both forward position.

I'd love to have Harris, but he's nothing like Gordon, and with the price Murray is asking, I wouldn't even make a call.

BeiBeau · Post #136 » by **BeiBeau** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:20 am

Mavrelous wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:He is the big wing that can play either forward position. He has a down year mainly due to not properly utilised in PHI. He can be our own “Aaron Gordon” type player. If we can somehow acquire him by not giving up premium asset. We should strongly consider it. The only thing is PHI won’t give up on him so easily. Poor rebounding is mainly due to lack of size in both forward position.

I'd love to have Harris, but he's nothing like Gordon, and with the price Murray is asking, I wouldn't even make a call.

Don't believe that obvious smoke screen. You should be better then that.

Post #137 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:31 am

Smoke screen or not, looks like he's looking for asset for him, I wouldn't pay any.
There's a clear window to operate a Harris trade, lump it with the Bertans trade, send them THJ and Holmes, and get Harris and Korkmaz, PHI opens MLE and BAE and ducks tax this year, while getting a volume shooter, I'd do this trade any day, but I won't give any asset for him.

41Dirk41 · Post #138 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:03 am

For the vet min i would like to sign DSJ...

Darren · Post #139 » by **Darren** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:40 pm

Dmavs12 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
Yeah, this can’t be real, unless they’re giving up something else good in return. This guy solves nothing for us.

He is the big wing player that we are looking for

Cuban: “I think we need a center that can protect the rim. I think we need to improve our rebounding and offensive rebounding from the wings and the power forward position. I think that’s where our biggest needs are.”

Harris addresses non of this.

As far as I heard, the Mavs is serving as facilitator to land Ayton. I am actually fine without a lottery first.

Ayton, Okogie to Mavs
Harris, lottery protected 1st via Mavs to PHX
Combination of TH, Maxi, McGee, Bullock

41Dirk41 · Post #140 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:46 pm

Darren wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:
He is the big wing player that we are looking for

Cuban: “I think we need a center that can protect the rim. I think we need to improve our rebounding and offensive rebounding from the wings and the power forward position. I think that’s where our biggest needs are.”

Harris addresses non of this.

As far as I heard, the Mavs is serving as facilitator to land Ayton. I am actually fine without a lottery first.

Ayton, Okogie to Mavs
Harris, lottery protected 1st via Mavs to PHX
Combination of TH, Maxi, McGee, Bullock

Yes i think this is the plan, try to enter in some Ayton trade...