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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1803 » by Goudelock » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:30 am

I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.
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Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.

Back when the sport was at its peak. :bowdown:
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Post#1805 » by Clyde Frazier » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:08 pm

Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.


Kind of amazing how long he played and how durable he was with knee issues starting in his early prime. From 87-88 to 96-97 games played: 82, 80, 82, 82, 81, 82, 81, 79, 79, 76, 78. There's another pic where he had *knicks branded* icepacks on his knees I can't seem to find... my eyes are better off lol

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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1806 » by 70sFan » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:34 pm

Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.

I always felt that Ewing's success despite his physical limitations (caused hy injuries) shows how smart and hard working player he was - that's something you rarely hear about him. He wasn't basketball savant gifted with natural feel for the game either, but he worked extremely hard to compete with the best and his experience helped him to dominate the game defensively despite being slower and stiffer than his contemporaries.

That why I have always liked watching Ewing. You can't expect basketball magic from him, but he always gave you the best.
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Post#1807 » by 1993Playoffs » Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:09 pm

Not calling out anyone but Man has the quality of discussion/threads on here dropped sharply recently
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1993Playoffs wrote:Not calling out anyone but Man has the quality of discussion/threads on here dropped sharply recently


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Post#1809 » by Colbinii » Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:37 pm

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Post#1810 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:51 am

1993Playoffs wrote:Not calling out anyone but Man has the quality of discussion/threads on here dropped sharply recently


PC board rarely has baby posters who come here as casuals and has to learn who half the top 100 is from this board. This also leads to less enthusiasm as the forum is full of middle aged guys who've seen the same player comparison threads 500 times and don't need to argue about whether KG is on Duncan's level despite having less rings or whether Robinson is a playoff choker anymore.

I don't think it's RealGM specific as I've visited or run other message boards for a while and I don't think the energy is the same for them either, it's common to me to see posters who come off as obligated to keep posting or just got in a routine a long time ago and never changed it despite their enthusiasm naturally declining over time.

Despite more people using the internet than ever, it feels small in the sense that it seems everyone uses the same sites (reddit, twitter, facebook, etc.). Logically, this would mean they're less interested in the medium sized ones like RealGM, or let alone small ones with barely any traffic. Psychologically, I don't think a person born after 2000 coming across a thread on google search for a forum they hadn't heard of before, and then signing up for it, is an idea that really clicks for them right now. There is something about the ultra popular ones that's appealing to them right now, the advantages of smaller forum such as people more easily knowing who you are, is not speaking to them as much. eg. Of the many, many people online desperate for attention or any sort of approval, we have an abundance of ones posting amateur memes or the most low hanging fruit jokes on twitter/reddit, and comparatively little compared to old days of someone who goes to smaller forums and becomes the polarizing troll guy that constantly ends up in feuds with other posters or hot water with the moderators, etc. Every forum used to have one of those, and it was a good way to get attention. In this era though, the attention whore's weapon of the choice seems to be more the desperate joke on massive sites like twitter/reddit.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1811 » by Goudelock » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 am

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Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.

I always felt that Ewing's success despite his physical limitations (caused hy injuries) shows how smart and hard working player he was - that's something you rarely hear about him. He wasn't basketball savant gifted with natural feel for the game either, but he worked extremely hard to compete with the best and his experience helped him to dominate the game defensively despite being slower and stiffer than his contemporaries.

That why I have always liked watching Ewing. You can't expect basketball magic from him, but he always gave you the best.


What do you think about a Jimmy Butler comparison for Patrick Ewing? The game i saw was Jordan's 55, and Ewing scored 33 despite having minimal athleticism. He scored his points off being gritty, getting to the line, tough shotmaking over good contests.

I know it's not a perfect comparison, but i think it works. And in this comparison, Ewing even slots nicely to Robinson and Olajuwon like Butler does with Durant and LeBron in his era. Not as talented and not on that same tier, but still respected by all and still a great player in his own right.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1812 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:17 am

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Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.

I always felt that Ewing's success despite his physical limitations (caused hy injuries) shows how smart and hard working player he was - that's something you rarely hear about him. He wasn't basketball savant gifted with natural feel for the game either, but he worked extremely hard to compete with the best and his experience helped him to dominate the game defensively despite being slower and stiffer than his contemporaries.

That why I have always liked watching Ewing. You can't expect basketball magic from him, but he always gave you the best.


What do you think about a Jimmy Butler comparison for Patrick Ewing? The game i saw was Jordan's 55, and Ewing scored 33 despite having minimal athleticism. He scored his points off being gritty, getting to the line, tough shotmaking over good contests.

I know it's not a perfect comparison, but i think it works. And in this comparison, Ewing even slots nicely to Robinson and Olajuwon like Butler does with Durant and LeBron in his era. Not as talented and not on that same tier, but still respected by all and still a great player in his own right.


I've toyed with a Tatum Ewing comp more in terms of position rank than style of play. Lebron/Kawhi/Durant = Shaq/Hakeem/Robinson/etc. Tatum is the other guy at their position who's great, top 4/5 player and has made finals, but it's just a bit less talented and is probably never going to win MVP.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1813 » by 70sFan » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:57 am

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Goudelock wrote:I'm watching a replay of a mid-90s Knicks vs Bulls game. It takes Patrick Ewing 3-5 weeks to load up and jump after receiving the pass around the rim or after grabbing an offensive rebound.

I always felt that Ewing's success despite his physical limitations (caused hy injuries) shows how smart and hard working player he was - that's something you rarely hear about him. He wasn't basketball savant gifted with natural feel for the game either, but he worked extremely hard to compete with the best and his experience helped him to dominate the game defensively despite being slower and stiffer than his contemporaries.

That why I have always liked watching Ewing. You can't expect basketball magic from him, but he always gave you the best.


What do you think about a Jimmy Butler comparison for Patrick Ewing? The game i saw was Jordan's 55, and Ewing scored 33 despite having minimal athleticism. He scored his points off being gritty, getting to the line, tough shotmaking over good contests.

I know it's not a perfect comparison, but i think it works. And in this comparison, Ewing even slots nicely to Robinson and Olajuwon like Butler does with Durant and LeBron in his era. Not as talented and not on that same tier, but still respected by all and still a great player in his own right.

It makes sense, although Butler of course is much more cerebral offensive player.

I think it even fits because there are two extreme opinions about Ewing/Butler - one side sees them as nothing else than all-star type players who played on great organisations with elite coaches, while the other one views them as the sneaky MVP-level players that were better than Robinson/Durant types. I think the truth is in the middle in this case.
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Post#1814 » by Goudelock » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:10 pm

1993Playoffs wrote:Not calling out anyone but Man has the quality of discussion/threads on here dropped sharply recently


I wasted an interesting "Is Jimmy Butler the Patrick Ewing of 2010s-2020s wings" topic on the OT thread.

Sorry about that.
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Post#1815 » by AEnigma » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:45 pm

70sFan wrote:
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70sFan wrote:I always felt that Ewing's success despite his physical limitations (caused hy injuries) shows how smart and hard working player he was - that's something you rarely hear about him. He wasn't basketball savant gifted with natural feel for the game either, but he worked extremely hard to compete with the best and his experience helped him to dominate the game defensively despite being slower and stiffer than his contemporaries.

That why I have always liked watching Ewing. You can't expect basketball magic from him, but he always gave you the best.


What do you think about a Jimmy Butler comparison for Patrick Ewing? The game i saw was Jordan's 55, and Ewing scored 33 despite having minimal athleticism. He scored his points off being gritty, getting to the line, tough shotmaking over good contests.

I know it's not a perfect comparison, but i think it works. And in this comparison, Ewing even slots nicely to Robinson and Olajuwon like Butler does with Durant and LeBron in his era. Not as talented and not on that same tier, but still respected by all and still a great player in his own right.

It makes sense, although Butler of course is much more cerebral offensive player.

I think it even fits because there are two extreme opinions about Ewing/Butler - one side sees them as nothing else than all-star type players who played on great organisations with elite coaches, while the other one views them as the sneaky MVP-level players that were better than Robinson/Durant types. I think the truth is in the middle in this case.

I like the Ewing : Robinson :: Butler : Durant analogy. Ewing and Butler are probably not “better”, but they certainly frustrate and disappoint me a lot less in the postseason, and their averages end up looking a lot more comparable there than in the regular season.
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Post#1816 » by Goudelock » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:32 pm

The Wembanyama overreactions are mind-boggling.

I've seen Jahlil Okafor, Emmanuel Mudiay and Denzel Valentine all be dubbed future greats after the SL, and Trae Young was a certified bum.

We do this every year, and yet a board with experienced posters like the GB still fall for it every. single. year.
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Post#1817 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Jul 8, 2023 10:21 pm

Goudelock wrote:The Wembanyama overreactions are mind-boggling.

I've seen Jahlil Okafor, Emmanuel Mudiay and Denzel Valentine all be dubbed future greats after the SL, and Trae Young was a certified bum.

We do this every year, and yet a board with experienced posters like the GB still fall for it every. single. year.


Yup lol. Guy shoots poorly in the first game of the season in a brand new environment and he was clearly overrated.
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Post#1818 » by Goudelock » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:12 am

;ab_channel=StefanoConte

That shot at 1:35 was easily the greatest sky hook of Abdul-Jabbar's career.

And when it comes to GOAT candidates having roles in movies, this clears both Jordan and James in Space Jam, Chamberlain in Conan the Barbarian, and every other NBA player in history.
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Post#1819 » by HeartBreakKid » Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:38 am

Goudelock wrote:;ab_channel=StefanoConte

That shot at 1:35 was easily the greatest sky hook of Abdul-Jabbar's career.

And when it comes to GOAT candidates having roles in movies, this clears both Jordan and James in Space Jam, Chamberlain in Conan the Barbarian, and every other NBA player in history.

Shaq in Steel was pretty tough
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Post#1820 » by rk2023 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:09 am

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Goudelock wrote:;ab_channel=StefanoConte

That shot at 1:35 was easily the greatest sky hook of Abdul-Jabbar's career.

And when it comes to GOAT candidates having roles in movies, this clears both Jordan and James in Space Jam, Chamberlain in Conan the Barbarian, and every other NBA player in history.

Shaq in Steel was pretty tough


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