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Post#321 » by bigdogdylan5 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:26 am

jezzerinho wrote:Howard isn't big enough to play SF, I don't believe

Ok let’s say he is only 6’6” even though listed for higher. We played 3 guard lineups with like Harris at the three. I think Jett is big enough to backup the 3 for 10-15 minutes a game. Maybe not long term but we have Franz and Paolo. I think the idea is he gets more experienced and better on defense he will be long term 2
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Post#322 » by bigdogdylan5 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:28 am

Anyone see the interview that he said the vast majority of his workouts were groups? That to me is interesting and a detail. If he killed it in the workout like Sam Vecine said he was hearing and it was actually being guarded. Way better data point then a normal 1-0 workout for evaluation.
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Post#323 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:43 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:It's going to be so surreal to have a Howard on our team that is not a good defender. I'm not ready.


Hmmmm you were not a fan yet on our infamous 19gam losing streak?
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Post#324 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:45 am

jezzerinho wrote:Howard isn't big enough to play SF, I don't believe


If Black can be considered to be ablt to play the 3 spot, how can you say Howard isnt big enough when pics show he is clearly bigger than Black?
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Post#325 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:35 pm

KillMonger wrote:it was meant to be lol

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I am that old now....

I knew this photo would appear eventually. Doesn't mean I was ready.
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Post#326 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:37 pm

RookieStar wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:It's going to be so surreal to have a Howard on our team that is not a good defender. I'm not ready.


Hmmmm you were not a fan yet on our infamous 19gam losing streak?

Please no more long losing streaks.
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Post#327 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:38 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:Anyone see the interview that he said the vast majority of his workouts were groups? That to me is interesting and a detail. If he killed it in the workout like Sam Vecine said he was hearing and it was actually being guarded. Way better data point then a normal 1-0 workout for evaluation.


My thought has always been that it wasn't just film. So for all we know he went 1-1 with Suggs and destroyed him. (Being silly.)

Summer league is about to start, I will continue to keep an open mind on him for the first 2-3 seasons. Here is hoping he somehow comes out the gate with the ability to replace G-Harris or be Suggs backup from SG.

I really like the potential depth chart of

Black / Fultz
Suggs / Howard

At the moment I do hope we keep Harris as I feel like he is still good enough to use as an asset somehow but wouldn't be surprised if we did the good ol "additional by subtraction" and wave him.
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Post#328 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:11 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:He's a wing. He can play next to Franz and/or next to Gary Harris.


If Jett Howard is playing nest to Gary Harris, then Howard better have been traded to the team Harris signed with.

Harris cannot be a Magician on opening night if Orlando\s goal is to actually win games.


I disagree. I think Gary is a solid piece for wins AND development. He's not perfect, by any means, but to say he shouldn't be on the team if we're trying to actually win is surprising. Especially considering his shooting in a position group devoid of that skill.

Yes, if there's a clear upgrade available, replace him, but if there isn't, that is totally fine. he's serviceable for us.
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Post#329 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:13 pm

Positive Jett take at ~23:00 mark

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Post#330 » by jezzerinho » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:39 pm

RookieStar wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:Howard isn't big enough to play SF, I don't believe


If Black can be considered to be ablt to play the 3 spot, how can you say Howard isnt big enough when pics show he is clearly bigger than Black?


1) considered by whom?
2) Black is clearly taller than Howard at 6'5.75". Not by much but he's taller. Howard is 6'5". He's a little bit taller than Bufkin, who measured 6'4.25" at the Combine and shorter than Black by a small bit. Puts him at 6'5" and a mile away from this 6'8" nonsense.

Anyway, there's nothing more.pointless than a height argument, so I'll leave it there, but he would make a very small SF. Imo, he needles to shed any bad weight/bulk and add mobility and focus on being a shooting guard.
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Post#331 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:51 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:Howard isn't big enough to play SF, I don't believe


If Black can be considered to be ablt to play the 3 spot, how can you say Howard isnt big enough when pics show he is clearly bigger than Black?


1) considered by whom?
2) Black is clearly taller than Howard at 6'5.75". Not by much but he's taller. Howard is 6'5". He's a little bit taller than Bufkin, who measured 6'4.25" at the Combine and shorter than Black by a small bit. Puts him at 6'5" and a mile away from this 6'8" nonsense.

Anyway, there's nothing more.pointless than a height argument, so I'll leave it there, but he would make a very small SF. Imo, he needles to shed any bad weight/bulk and add mobility and focus on being a shooting guard.
AB is not taller than Jett.
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Post#332 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:58 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
If Black can be considered to be ablt to play the 3 spot, how can you say Howard isnt big enough when pics show he is clearly bigger than Black?


1) considered by whom?
2) Black is clearly taller than Howard at 6'5.75". Not by much but he's taller. Howard is 6'5". He's a little bit taller than Bufkin, who measured 6'4.25" at the Combine and shorter than Black by a small bit. Puts him at 6'5" and a mile away from this 6'8" nonsense.

Anyway, there's nothing more.pointless than a height argument, so I'll leave it there, but he would make a very small SF. Imo, he needles to shed any bad weight/bulk and add mobility and focus on being a shooting guard.
AB is not taller than Jett.

Just watch the introduction of the 2 players. you can see mosely eye to eye with Jett... and mose is listed at 6'8".
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Post#333 » by MAGICian619 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:35 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
The Effect wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Magic wanted Jett, they could have traded down 3 to 4 picks for him.

And gotten what?

What would exactly would we trade down and get? A 2028 2nd round pick? Cause of all the other trades, that's all that was gained by moving down...future 2nd rounders

And before someone stupidly says "atleast it's something", just remember....We've literally sold off the #36 pick this year for nothing, the #35 pick last year, 33 the year before that etc

Trading down literally does nothing in the NBA draft unless you're in the top 3-5 and there's a Luka doncic level player available that you don't want for some reason. That's the only way you get value to trade down. This isnt the NFL draft where trading down actually nets you something positive


A good Real GM stock piles assets all of which can be used in future trades. We jumped the gun on this one. Just hope Jett is not just another Andrew Nicholson, all offense and no defense. Regardless, we could always use a solid 10-15mpg role playing bench firecracker.


When did you see NBA team draft boards?
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Post#334 » by bigdogdylan5 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm

MAGICian619 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
The Effect wrote:And gotten what?

What would exactly would we trade down and get? A 2028 2nd round pick? Cause of all the other trades, that's all that was gained by moving down...future 2nd rounders

And before someone stupidly says "atleast it's something", just remember....We've literally sold off the #36 pick this year for nothing, the #35 pick last year, 33 the year before that etc

Trading down literally does nothing in the NBA draft unless you're in the top 3-5 and there's a Luka doncic level player available that you don't want for some reason. That's the only way you get value to trade down. This isnt the NFL draft where trading down actually nets you something positive


A good Real GM stock piles assets all of which can be used in future trades. We jumped the gun on this one. Just hope Jett is not just another Andrew Nicholson, all offense and no defense. Regardless, we could always use a solid 10-15mpg role playing bench firecracker.


When did you see NBA team draft boards?

Good info here:

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The mocks as fans our only info but these teams spend weeks being intel gathering and if Jett is your guy if you trade down and there is a 10-20% chance he gets taken it’s not worth it. The price was set at best you’re getting a future second which we already have 8 future ones not including our own.
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Post#335 » by MAGICian619 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:49 pm

While we may not know Jett's exact height at the moment, he is pretty clearly 6'7 minimum with shoes, and looks closer to 6'8. You can see this pretty easily by just watching some of his highlights at Michigan.

He is a 2/3. Not sure why this needs to be debated. He will be able to play at both SG and SF. He is your prototypical Swing man in basketball terms.
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Post#336 » by RichCollab » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:23 pm

MAGICian619 wrote:While we may not know Jett's exact height at the moment, he is pretty clearly 6'7 minimum with shoes, and looks closer to 6'8. You can see this pretty easily by just watching some of his highlights at Michigan.

He is a 2/3. Not sure why this needs to be debated. He will be able to play at both SG and SF. He is your prototypical Swing man in basketball terms.


Defense dictates what positions you work at best. I still need to see Jet play NBA games.
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Post#337 » by MAGICian619 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:30 pm

RichCollab wrote:
MAGICian619 wrote:While we may not know Jett's exact height at the moment, he is pretty clearly 6'7 minimum with shoes, and looks closer to 6'8. You can see this pretty easily by just watching some of his highlights at Michigan.

He is a 2/3. Not sure why this needs to be debated. He will be able to play at both SG and SF. He is your prototypical Swing man in basketball terms.


Defense dictates what positions you work at best. I still need to see Jet play NBA games.


Yah that thought is way overblown. There are plenty of people that can't guard anyone in the NBA that play big minutes.

Jett is a 2/3 swingman. We drafted Jett for the offense and spacing he will bring.
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Post#338 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:52 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Positive Jett take at ~23:00 mark


Nice nice!
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Post#339 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:54 pm

NVM
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Post#340 » by The-Stallion70 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:31 pm

Wemby shot bricks at the welcome event and now people are saying he's a bust? Why don't we have a welcome event for Jett and watch him smoke the nets, then everybody be saying we killed the pick lol
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