Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup

[Dame Lizard]

I’m still feeling sick about the lies from Jody and Joe. I really could give a f about how good Shae and Scoot will be in 3-4 years, which I’m sure they will be. As a blazer fan I’ve been placated and lied to by this organization for years saying they want to compete when they’ve never had anyone competent or brave enough to make a splashy move. I’m ready to organize a boycott or a demonstration/protest against this team and advocating for Jody to sell. It’s inexcusable having a player of Dame’s caliber and selling fans on lies for over a decade. **** Jody Allen, **** Olshey **** Cronin **** CB and a real big FU to the Vulcans and that creep Bert Kolde.

Dame is meeting with Cronin and Jody today to discuss the teams future and if it ends with Dame being shopped I’m going to be very very upset.

We could have very easily traded the 23 for our picks back to show the fans and Dame that we could still make a splashy move while keeping the 3. But we didn’t which is in direct contradiction to what he’s told the fans. People have defended Jody saying she isn’t cheap but in reality those years we had a huge payroll for mediocre players, that was the team she inherited. Every year her goal is to stay below the tax for revenue sharing. She’s never 9once done an interview, she makes 10s of millions running her brothers estate and not selling it despite her brothers wishes. There’s a lot of stuff about her smuggling things into the country, objectifying male employees and being an incredibly toxic person in general. She needs to sell the team to someone who gives a ish about this team. I don’t follow football but I’[ve heard the Seahawks haven’t been much better since she took over. We need to get rid of these people.

Olshey absolutely poo'd the bed with his lack of win-now moves. Instead of trading multiple first round picks for guys like Covington and Larry Nance, we should have swung for the fences with a Paul George or Jimmy Butler trade.

However, with the current roster we have, we are so far away from competing, that frankly it'd be silly to mortgage the future for a first or second round exit.

Let's not forget that Dame was happy to accept the mega-max from Portland, a deal that some teams absolutely wouldn't have offered given his age for the final years. He could have accepted a paycut to enable more aggressive FA spending (I appreciate Portland has a poor FA record so this may have had limited results, but I'm still making the point nonetheless).

[DusterBuster]

Is it just me, or does anyone else thing other players look better when Dame is out of the lineup? Sharpe and Simons in particular shine when he's out, the team in general seems to play with more flair, more ball/player movement. Dame dominates the ball so much. PGs that have lasted into their mid-late 30s have all been great distributers: Nash, Stockton, Kidd.

Any time a high usage player is out of a lineup, it allows other player with skill to show out. Has nothing to be with Dame being ball dominant, it’s just simple cause and effect that every team has, especially when they have talented players outside of their top 1 or 2 players.

I know you hate Dame and want him gone yesterday, but all your excuses are pretty weak.

[DusterBuster]

Let's not forget that Dame was happy to accept the mega-max from Portland, a deal that some teams absolutely wouldn't have offered given his age for the final years.

Utter nonsense. Top 10 players basically have a blank check with every team who can offer it. Lillard would have gotten the same deal from any team who needed him and had the means to offer that contract.

[Norm2953]

I do find it amusing that people assume Chicago would be interested in 23 for release of the restrictions
on future picks. In all realities, we don't know if that's correct and we don't know if that was ever offered
and rejected or not.

The thing is when other teams sense desperation, the rival GM's all become more like Masai (Toronto) and
they raise their prices accordingly. In my 46 years following this team, I've seen desperation moves from
the Calvin Natt trade in 1980, Kiki Vandeweghe (1984) and have also seen the reverse in 2012 when the
Nets made that horrible trade that led Dame to be a Blazer in the first place.

It takes a lot of patience but its my experience to avoid at all costs, the desperation moves. The Josh Hart
last year was a great trade for both the Knicks/Blazers. Whether Dame gets traded or not, he's going to be
fine

[Sinobas]

Is it just me, or does anyone else thing other players look better when Dame is out of the lineup? Sharpe and Simons in particular shine when he's out, the team in general seems to play with more flair, more ball/player movement. Dame dominates the ball so much. PGs that have lasted into their mid-late 30s have all been great distributers: Nash, Stockton, Kidd.

Any time a high usage player is out of a lineup, it allows other player with skill to show out. Has nothing to be with Dame being ball dominant, it’s just simple cause and effect that every team has, especially when they have talented players outside of their top 1 or 2 players.

I know you hate Dame and want him gone yesterday, but all your excuses are pretty weak.

Ok, pull your panties out of your ass sweetheart.

[DusterBuster]

Is it just me, or does anyone else thing other players look better when Dame is out of the lineup? Sharpe and Simons in particular shine when he's out, the team in general seems to play with more flair, more ball/player movement. Dame dominates the ball so much. PGs that have lasted into their mid-late 30s have all been great distributers: Nash, Stockton, Kidd.

Any time a high usage player is out of a lineup, it allows other player with skill to show out. Has nothing to be with Dame being ball dominant, it’s just simple cause and effect that every team has, especially when they have talented players outside of their top 1 or 2 players.

I know you hate Dame and want him gone yesterday, but all your excuses are pretty weak.

Ok, pull your panties out of your ass sweetheart.

I assure you, my ass and panties are quite separate good sir!

[Sinobas]

Any time a high usage player is out of a lineup, it allows other player with skill to show out. Has nothing to be with Dame being ball dominant, it’s just simple cause and effect that every team has, especially when they have talented players outside of their top 1 or 2 players.

I know you hate Dame and want him gone yesterday, but all your excuses are pretty weak.

Ok, pull your panties out of your ass sweetheart.

I assure you, my ass and panties are quite separate good sir!

Maybe now, after I suggested that....

[Effigy]

Is it just me, or does anyone else thing other players look better when Dame is out of the lineup? Sharpe and Simons in particular shine when he's out, the team in general seems to play with more flair, more ball/player movement. Dame dominates the ball so much. PGs that have lasted into their mid-late 30s have all been great distributers: Nash, Stockton, Kidd.

Any time a high usage player is out of a lineup, it allows other player with skill to show out. Has nothing to be with Dame being ball dominant, it’s just simple cause and effect that every team has, especially when they have talented players outside of their top 1 or 2 players.

I know you hate Dame and want him gone yesterday, but all your excuses are pretty weak.

Also, sure, other players look better with Dame out but we sure don’t win as much.

[Wizenheimer]

CJ looked better playing without Dame for short sample sizes

and this season, playing without Dame, he had his worst season in years

[Norm2953]

Lots of times, when a key player is out, other guys step their games up.

This does not mean the team is better off without their star player but most guys who
make an NBA roster, are better than the 99% of the guys who play the game.

[zzaj]

Naz Reid is somebody that the Blazers could have used. John Collins, too if Grant walks or isn't resigned. I would hope that the whole "talks with Lillard to deal with the direction of the franchise" isn't a hamstring of the franchise's ability to look at FA.

[Wizenheimer]

Naz Reid is somebody that the Blazers could have used. John Collins, too if Grant walks or isn't resigned. I would hope that the whole "talks with Lillard to deal with the direction of the franchise" isn't a hamstring of the franchise's ability to look at FA.

all Portland has is an MLE, and it might not even be the ful-MLE, unless the Blazers are OK with being hard-capped again

free agents are going to sign for cap-space first, then the MLE's, and the Blazers as always, will be toward the end of the line. They'd be all the way at the end of the line if it gets out that Dame wants to leave

[zzaj]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three first round picks and two swaps, all unprotected

* Rudy Gobert was traded for Malik Beasely, Pat Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walter Kessler (2022 1st), Four more first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

but I'll play and make a counter-proposal:

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney



PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

all unprotected....just like all the recent blockbuster trades. I was going to ask for the 2030 Brooklyn first but I figured that would cross the line from fair to too much

I'm thinking that:

Lillard + something

for

Claxton, rights to Clowney +3 FRP

is about the best the Blazers could possibly do if the Blazers are going for tear down.

[Case2012]

I do find it amusing that people assume Chicago would be interested in 23 for release of the restrictions
on future picks. In all realities, we don't know if that's correct and we don't know if that was ever offered
and rejected or not.

The thing is when other teams sense desperation, the rival GM's all become more like Masai (Toronto) and
they raise their prices accordingly. In my 46 years following this team, I've seen desperation moves from
the Calvin Natt trade in 1980, Kiki Vandeweghe (1984) and have also seen the reverse in 2012 when the
Nets made that horrible trade that led Dame to be a Blazer in the first place.

It takes a lot of patience but its my experience to avoid at all costs, the desperation moves. The Josh Hart
last year was a great trade for both the Knicks/Blazers. Whether Dame gets traded or not, he's going to be
fine

Chicago didn’t have a pick this year, it’s looking likely they’re going to rebuild, so having a pick this year would have been an obvious move especially with how likely it’s looking with this drama around Dame that the pick owed could turn into a second round pick in a few years easily. I don’t know why you find that amusing, it’s pretty straight forward. We have several seconds and young players we could have added to sweeten the deal. I guess you could look at it like, if they give us our pick back then we’d use them to get a star and get back into the playoffs but there’s no guarantee Cronin would be able to pull it off. It would signal to the fans and to Dame that we are least trying to position ourselves to make a deal should one become available though, instead of looking like a holes for lying to their franchise player and their fans. I don’t find it amusing at all, I’m pretty effing pissed off rn.

[BlazersBroncos]

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney



PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

Ya, this is about what I expect. Would prefer to reroute Dinwiddie though. But I prefer this type of ballast - I dont want Simmons near our young talents.

Wonder if there is a bad contract out there that we could take on, reroute Spencer and get an asset. (Ironically, MIA works here - send them Spencer, take on Duncan and get a pick or Jovic.

[zzaj]

Naz Reid is somebody that the Blazers could have used. John Collins, too if Grant walks or isn't resigned. I would hope that the whole "talks with Lillard to deal with the direction of the franchise" isn't a hamstring of the franchise's ability to look at FA.

all Portland has is an MLE, and it might not even be the ful-MLE, unless the Blazers are OK with being hard-capped again

free agents are going to sign for cap-space first, then the MLE's, and the Blazers as always, will be toward the end of the line. They'd be all the way at the end of the line if it gets out that Dame wants to leave

Does that apply if the Blazers choose to not pick up Grant?

[JRoy]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three first round picks and two swaps, all unprotected

* Rudy Gobert was traded for Malik Beasely, Pat Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walter Kessler (2022 1st), Four more first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

but I'll play and make a counter-proposal:

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney



PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

all unprotected....just like all the recent blockbuster trades. I was going to ask for the 2030 Brooklyn first but I figured that would cross the line from fair to too much

I'm thinking that:

Lillard + something

for

Claxton, rights to Clowney +3 FRP

is about the best the Blazers could possibly do if the Blazers are going for tear down.

Pass on another tiny one way sg.

[DaVoiceMaster]

I would package Lillard and Nurkic for Simmons, Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, 2027 Phoenix pick, 2028 Brooklyn pick, 2029 Phoenix pick.

Then S&T Grant for Dinwiddie, Thomas, Sharpe and 2025 Phoenix pick.

Lillard / Mills
Bridges / Harris / Sumner
Johnson / Finney-Smith
Grant / O'Neale
Nurkic /

Need to add a backup big behind Nurkic and a backup PG. Do they compete?


Simons / Scoot / Johnson
Sharpe / Thomas / Williams
Simmons / Little / Whitehead
Clowney / Murray / Walker
Claxton / Watford / Badji (2-way)

Waive Dinwiddie. Could be a fun team. I would probably look to move Simon's for a future pick.

[PDXKnight]

Just think if Lillards decision hinges on us resigning grant and then lillard leaves anyhow

[JustBuzzin]

I would package Lillard and Nurkic for Simmons, Claxton, Clowney, Whitehead, 2027 Phoenix pick, 2028 Brooklyn pick, 2029 Phoenix pick.

Then S&T Grant for Dinwiddie, Thomas, Sharpe and 2025 Phoenix pick.

Lillard / Mills
Bridges / Harris / Sumner
Johnson / Finney-Smith
Grant / O'Neale
Nurkic /

Need to add a backup big behind Nurkic and a backup PG. Do they compete?


Simons / Scoot / Johnson
Sharpe / Thomas / Williams
Simmons / Little / Whitehead
Clowney / Murray / Walker
Claxton / Watford / Badji (2-way)

Waive Dinwiddie. Could be a fun team. I would probably look to move Simon's for a future pick.

Just stopping by I thought the meeting went well and the Blazers are committed to building a contender with Dame?

I honestly think trading Scoot is still in play.