Who slides, and why?

EvanZ · Post #21 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:29 pm

Problem is next two drafts are supposed to be really bad, so GM's might figure they need to take shots at the dartboard this cycle.

LofJ · Post #22 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:37 pm

If the Magic or Raptors don't take Keyonte George I think he's going to slide outside of the lottery to 16.

If Gradey Dick isn't drafted by the Jazz or Mavericks he could also slide outside of the lottery.

Village Idiot · Post #23 » by **Village Idiot** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:37 am

I called it :wink:

clyde21 · Post #24 » by **clyde21** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:40 am

Village Idiot wrote:I called it

good call

tho he didn't drop bc of the reasons you listed, likely bad medicals/workouts I guess?

Village Idiot · Post #25 » by **Village Idiot** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:02 am

clyde21 wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:I called it

good call

tho he didn't drop bc of the reasons you listed, likely bad medicals/workouts I guess?

I think it was a combination of factors. Once his private workouts started I heard some scepticism from Portland sources about his game and mind-set. There's a very thin line between being a dawg and a dog. Regardless, I hope Whitmore uses this as a catalyst to work on his connective team skills.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #26 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:58 pm

The Whitmore thing seems to be

1. Two serious leg injuries
2. REALLY hated by his coaching staff (I think this is why Leonard Miller dropped so far as well?)
3. Probably bad interviews/workouts
4. Just general concerns about how his game would translate to the NBA when he stopped being hugely stronger than other players.

Guessing the NBA takes the opinions of your coaches very seriously and it was clear that Villanova and Ignite hated Whitmore and Miller.

EvanZ · Post #27 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:32 pm

I had a guy from a team text me 4 red flags and he said "that's probably not enough flags" lol

EvanZ · Post #28 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:34 pm

You know what's funny about Leonard Miller is that Vecenie kept talking about how much the coaches love him and how coachable he is. Hmm...

HadAnEffectHere · Post #29 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:39 pm

EvanZ wrote:You know what's funny about Leonard Miller is that Vecenie kept talking about how much the coaches love him and how coachable he is. Hmm...

Yeah I don't know, Whitmore and Miller were the only guys who were constantly screamed at during games by their coaching staff this year.

I think teams made a big mistake passing on Miller, but we'll see.

EvanZ · Post #30 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:11 pm

Tough landing spot for Miller tbh. He's got KAT, Gobert, Naz, and Jalen all ahead of him in the big rotation.

azcatz11 · Post #31 » by **azcatz11** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:12 pm

EvanZ wrote:Tough landing spot for Miller tbh. He's got KAT, Gobert, Naz, and Jalen all ahead of him in the big rotation.

Seems like you had quite a lot of misses this year…just curious if you need to retool your evaluation process?

EvanZ · Post #32 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:22 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Tough landing spot for Miller tbh. He's got KAT, Gobert, Naz, and Jalen all ahead of him in the big rotation.

Seems like you had quite a lot of misses this year…just curious if you need to retool your evaluation process?

Sorry how do you define a miss before an NBA career is even started? None of these guys have played yet. Did you just get back from 2033? :lol:

Mule Tears · Post #33 » by **Mule Tears** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:19 pm

Village Idiot wrote:I'll go with Whitmore. Black hole offensively and a bit undersized. I can see Coulibaly moving past him pushing Whitmore outside the top 10. Can also see some team picking Lively ahead of him.

Nailed it

Big J · Post #34 » by **Big J** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:I called it

good call

tho he didn't drop bc of the reasons you listed, likely bad medicals/workouts I guess?

If you're guessing then you don't know that what he said weren't the reasons Cam dropped.

I_like_Defence · Post #35 » by **I_like_Defence** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:30 pm

Village Idiot wrote:I'll go with Whitmore. Black hole offensively and a bit undersized. I can see Coulibaly moving past him pushing Whitmore outside the top 10. Can also see some team picking Lively ahead of him.

The village idiot is the smartest guy in the room

EvanZ · Post #36 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:53 pm

Unfortunately, he did not slide for those reasons.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #37 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:04 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:The Whitmore thing seems to be

1. Two serious leg injuries
2. REALLY hated by his coaching staff (I think this is why Leonard Miller dropped so far as well?)
3. Probably bad interviews/workouts
4. Just general concerns about how his game would translate to the NBA when he stopped being hugely stronger than other players.

Guessing the NBA takes the opinions of your coaches very seriously and it was clear that Villanova and Ignite hated Whitmore and Miller.

lol, Whitmore's coach hated him SO MUCH that he was willing to badmouth Whitmore to NBA scouts during the pre-draft process.

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baldur · Post #38 » by **baldur** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:18 pm

why should kyle neptune be fired? for being honest? for not misleading and deceiving NBA teams?

maybe whitmore should have had better attitude and personality if he wants to make more money.

Post #39 » by **Nuntius** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:26 pm

baldur wrote:why should kyle neptune be fired? for being honest? for not misleading and deceiving NBA teams?

Neptune's job isn't to be honest to NBA teams. His job is to win games at the NCAA level and recruiting plays a huge role in that. If players know that there's a chance that Neptune can hurt their draft stock by bad-mouthing them to teams then it gives them a reason to pick another offer. It's not a given, obviously, but having something like this hang over his head can really hurt his recruiting efforts and that's a big part of being an NCAA coach.

clyde21 · Post #40 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:21 pm

baldur wrote:why should kyle neptune be fired? for being honest? for not misleading and deceiving NBA teams?

maybe whitmore should have had better attitude and personality if he wants to make more money.

How do u know Neptune is being honest and just doesn't have an agenda against Cam?