Dame committed to the Blazers

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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#81 » by NYPiston » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:17 pm

LOL at them thinking that a "Big 3" of old Dame, old Draymond and Jerami Grant is championship worthy.

They have a great young core, this is the perfect opportunity to sell high on Dame and build something special, a change of scenery that would benefit both Dame and the Blazers. They're going to fumble this for the sake of "loyalty" in a business where championships is what really matters.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#82 » by Papi_swav » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:19 pm

I think they'll be fine if they re-sign Grant. They just need to flip Simons for a 4 or get rid of his contract. Scoot coming off the bench will be dynamic for them.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#83 » by EricAnderson » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:25 pm

Papi_swav wrote:I think they'll be fine if they re-sign Grant. They just need to flip Simons for a 4 or get rid of his contract. Scoot coming off the bench will be dynamic for them.


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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#84 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:36 pm

Papi_swav wrote:I think they'll be fine if they re-sign Grant. They just need to flip Simons for a 4 or get rid of his contract. Scoot coming off the bench will be dynamic for them.


Simons is not a bad guy to have, I'm not sure why so many are down on him. If it's the pairing with Lillard I think you could argue Scoot and Lillard are also not the best pair either.

For some reason on RealGM people seem to think that Simons is trash, and he just had a horrible season.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#86 » by rand » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:49 pm

I'm looking forward to the Dame/Scoot/Simons/Sharpe/Grant lineup that may be on its way. Could break the all-time NBA record for worst DRtg but they would be fun to watch.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#87 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:57 pm

NYPiston wrote:LOL at them thinking that a "Big 3" of old Dame, old Draymond and Jerami Grant is championship worthy.

They have a great young core, this is the perfect opportunity to sell high on Dame and build something special, a change of scenery that would benefit both Dame and the Blazers. They're going to fumble this for the sake of "loyalty" in a business where championships is what really matters.
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Probably not even play in worthy
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#88 » by JKiddy » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:05 pm

Tim Kempton wrote:I'll take "Stories we hear ad nauseam every offseason" for 600, Alex.

We get it, Dame.


Dame is making himself look like an idiot if he doesn't make a move this week.

This is legacy altering.

A) Admit defeat and just play in POR and just stop caring about winning

OR

B) Show some balls and just ask to leave privately (might have already occurred) and move on to a new team

There is nothing wrong either way UNLESS THIS DRAMA KEEPS UP... he can stop it all this coming week/next week.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#89 » by CometGM » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:09 pm

Whatever happens with Dame he has my respect, should have Portland's respect, and the casual fan's respect. The dude has been a straight up professional all these years and has put in the work every season. One of, if not the most clutch player of this generation. Should've had more all-star appearances but kept getting snubbed until the casuals realized his greatness.

Plus the dude has actual skills on the mic. What more do you want from a player? Will follow and root for him wherever he ends up.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#90 » by Jadoogar » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:11 pm

Is this how Dunleavy was committed to Jordan Poole for 4 years?

This stuff means nothing, it's just media talk. Neither Dame or Blazers FO want to be the "bad guy" so there's just a stand off on a trade.

I don't see what the blazers plan is with 4 starting caliber guards on the roster. I think there will be a trade at some point.
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Post#91 » by EricAnderson » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:25 pm

Windhordst says Dame wants to see how free agency plays out till he makes a decision which makes sense.

If the smoke clears and the Blazers are unable to make any substantial moves which I can’t imagine they will be able to then I can’t imagine he is gonna want to stay
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#92 » by EricAnderson » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:28 pm

Jadoogar wrote:Is this how Dunleavy was committed to Jordan Poole for 4 years?

This stuff means nothing, it's just media talk. Neither Dame or Blazers FO want to be the "bad guy" so there's just a stand off on a trade.

I don't see what the blazers plan is with 4 starting caliber guards on the roster. I think there will be a trade at some point.


Exactly I think both sides don’t want to be the bad guy and it’s a standoff

Also nowhere in Haynes article did it say Dame is committed to staying in Portland he simply didn’t ask for a trade yet because if the Blazers told him they are gonna try to improve the team he probably wants to see what moves they can make

When they fail to make a trade for anyone of impact I doubt he’s still gonna want to stay
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#93 » by Lenneth » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:31 pm

monopoman wrote:
Lenneth wrote:
monopoman wrote:
We could see a sign and trade that could work out, remember you don't need to have the entire amount in cap space available with a trade. You can have a portion of that necessary cap space and then that qualifies as the requirement of cap space needed.


Sign and trade is possible, but Warriors have no obligation to do so if they really want to keep Green. And, Warriors traded Poole for Paul largely to get under the 2nd apron after 2023-2024. They definitely won't accept Simon, Little or Nurkic to do so.


Well step 1 of this whole thing is having Draymond say he wants to be a Blazer. Sure if Green is happy with the Warriors this is all a non-starter.

Now you might say why would they help us get him? Well he could threaten to leave for another team and they get jack **** as compensation. We also could work a deal to a 3rd team if they have no interest in someone like Simons for instance.

Obviously the Warriors want to keep Draymond but it appears he is not 100% on board with that otherwise he would have just signed with them. They also have the second highest payroll just like 500,000 or so less than the Clippers, keeping that core together is very pricey and we could see them balk if Draymond tries to go for every dollar he can.


Well, that's what the new CBA is doing. Warriors traded Poole for nothing to get under the 2nd apron in 2024-2025. If they receive Simon for the trade, they are right back to over the 2nd apron in 2024-2025. The penalty will not only kill any ability to sign players over the minimum, but it also put the future first-round pick to the automatic 30th. That's why Warriors would rather let Draymond walk for nothing than get a long term contract via sign-and-trade. Warriors want to save every penny to get under the 2nd apron, and Green is leveraging Portland to get every penny for the next contract, and that's why Green is still not resigned. I expect Green to come back with Warriors, and if he goes to Portland, it will be because Portland threw some mega contract like 4 years 140 mils type of deal.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#94 » by ChaseDown » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:36 pm

Legionhoops…NBA central…y’all really like to get fooled by these rumor pages don’t ya? Believe everything on the internet is what the saying has changed to.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#95 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:47 pm

ChaseDown wrote:Legionhoops…NBA central…y’all really like to get fooled by these rumor pages don’t ya? Believe everything on the internet is what the saying has changed to.


Yuuuup.

Dame hasn't said anything. His camp hasn't said anything. He isn't the one creating drama here, it is entirely media speculation but he gets all the blame.

People are so funny, not in a good way.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#96 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:48 pm

JKiddy wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:I'll take "Stories we hear ad nauseam every offseason" for 600, Alex.

We get it, Dame.


Dame is making himself look like an idiot if he doesn't make a move this week.

This is legacy altering.

A) Admit defeat and just play in POR and just stop caring about winning

OR

B) Show some balls and just ask to leave privately (might have already occurred) and move on to a new team

There is nothing wrong either way UNLESS THIS DRAMA KEEPS UP... he can stop it all this coming week/next week.


As long as DRAMA sells the media is going to keep manufacturing it. I don't know why that is so hard for people to understand and they keep getting swept up by this.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#97 » by Saul Goodman » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:50 pm

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Zeno wrote:I am really curious how this effects the Heat. If there is no avenue to getting Dame, I imagine they'd try to get off Lowry's expiring to make room to resign Vincent and Strus and make other moves. It will be harder to dump salary the longer they wait. Utah already took on Collins into capspace.


lost out on Beal and Dame, do they switch focus on go for Lavine? Try to pair Lowry+pick+a young player for Lavine? Gives MIA scoring, gives Chicago a chance at rebuilding while also pairing/shedding Lowry/DDR once again and they would both expire



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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#98 » by queridiculo » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:59 pm

I think there are very few teams Draymond could actually help, and I don't think the Blazers are one of them.

Draymond would be an impact player for a team like the Kings that are that one player away, not the Blazers who don't even have an identity outside of Dame getting buckets.
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#99 » by Onus » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:02 pm

This is good for Dame, he doesn't want to be a NBA nomad. Once you get traded you can end up on 8 different teams by the end of your career
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Re: Dame committed to the Blazers 

Post#100 » by JKiddy » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:19 pm

I get what he wants.

Dame wants to win a title in POR.
POR's FO and Ownership forgot to pull the trigger on moves to make POR a championship contender.
Dame knows this. Cronin knows this. Ownership knows this.
Dame doesn't want to be the bad guy.

I think they have a deal in place. Cronin is saying "keep quiet and give me 2 weeks to work."

If I can't get you what you want by then we will trade you July 10th OR by the deadline..... (Dame likely said fk the deadline... 2 weeks because I want a training camp with my new teammates and do not want to move my family midseason. He is a well respected vet, you have to accommodate that request.

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