The Guards

[basketballRob]

I hope we don't trade for expiring Malik Beasley. I see he's been working out in Orlando. The rumors are that the Lakers are interested in Suggs.

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[zaymon]

I hope we don't trade for expiring Malik Beasley. I see he's been working out in Orlando. The rumors are that the Lakers are interested in Suggs.

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Reaves for Suggs sign and trade ?

[basketballRob]

I hope we don't trade for expiring Malik Beasley. I see he's been working out in Orlando. The rumors are that the Lakers are interested in Suggs.

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Reaves for Suggs sign and trade ?

The Lakers are probably hoping to deal Beasley for Suggs. Beasley is working out at UCF.

It looks like the Lakers have a team option on Beasley's $16m deal by 6/29.

It should be interesting with all the deadlines coming up in the next couple of days.

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[drsd]

Jalen Suggs didn't shoot 35% for 3 but 32,7%, witch is 3% below league's average. Cumulative to rookie year, he is now 27% three point shooter. That's far cry from people here talking about 38-40%. His FTs give away his actual ability to shoot. It's below average.

He had months when his shot was wet, but also had months where over 14 games streach he shot 23% for 3 in middle of a season. He even played himself basically out of rotation at one point.


You can't put him in starting lineup, especially with Fultz nor Black and act like he is your floor spacer just because you want him to be one and because he failed as PG prospect that everybody hoped him to be.

As far as Black goes, there is no doubt in my mind he will suck as shooter in nba as a rookie. It wasn't just that he was bad shooter for 3, he was bad shooter from everywhere, as his jumpshot is very funky, and he hardly jumps- on jump-shot.
Guy shot 32% from mid range. And no empty-gym-shooting in offseason will change fact that he will be overwhealmed in nba as shooter once 6'7 , 40 inch vertical guy start to run in his direction to contest shots he isn't comfortable taking, let alone making, from distance he never had to shoot before.
People love to bring Josh Giddey, but than tend to forget , or simply never watch OKC to understand dynamic of their team. When OKC needs bucket, they allow Giddey to iniciate but he, by default, gives ball at some point to SGA or in lesser degree Jalen WIlliams. Magic have nobody who is even 70% as elite as SGA is to create something out of nothing. And for damn sure that guy ain't Suggs. SGA comes off 31 ppg season as allstar and probably one of best SGs NBA has. (63% TS, 7,3 BPM, just superstar numbers). Magic 2 guards combined didn't average 30 ppg in any combination ( needless to say nowhere near his efficiency as well).


There is no future for Magic with Fultz, Suggs, Black all being here in year or two.

Fultz thing runned it's course. That story goes nowhere. He is playing 7th year. Injury prone, broken jumpshot, no desire nor ability to shoot or steach floor. I don't need to see teams abusing us in playoffs due his inability to create space to know that story has no happy ending. I've seen enough basketball in my life to know how that story ends before paying him money to watch him ( and team because of him ) flop in playoffs.

Suggs thing. I'll give another year, but i'm 99,98% trading him next year for player who fits Banchero and Franz and hopefully Black for team's sucess going forward. We tried, we gave up 5th pick for PG of future. He can't play PG because he can't dribble , shoot nor play under any control. I don't need homless Marcus Smart on my roster, before any exstension talks, just trade him for player that fits your team. Rim protecting center, shooting guard, backup point guard, combo guard, whatever it's needed at that point and going forward.


Honeymoon stage of " i love everybody" is over. It's time to make playoffs and make hard decisions. Banchero will probably fight for allstar game next year, Franz might put 20 ppg and case his designed max as well. They are knocking on a doors. You better be ready to make roster fit them, instad of running team to a ground to feel better about draft busts.

In all that it's lost that Cole is low key only modern guard Magic have, and he will probably be lost because others had bigger Front Office investments in them.
Magic are 17-9 in games Cole scores at least 15 points.
Magic are 7-15 in gamesm where he scores less than 10.

Maybe, just maybe it has to do with fact he is only guard Magic have that can do all things: pass, beat man off dribble, shoot, and force teams from not clogging paint?

But yea, let's get rid of him, he can shoot, it's clear he doesn't fit

[basketballRob]

I thought Black was 5-9 from mid range. I'm not sure where Pepe got 30%.

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[Skybox]

I hope we don't trade for expiring Malik Beasley. I see he's been working out in Orlando. The rumors are that the Lakers are interested in Suggs.

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Reaves for Suggs sign and trade ?

The Lakers are probably hoping to deal Beasley for Suggs. Beasley is working out at UCF.

It looks like the Lakers have a team option on Beasley's $16m deal by 6/29.

It should be interesting with all the deadlines coming up in the next couple of days.

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I'd go Fultz for Beasley...but it wouldn't make much sense for them (I don't think) as Fultz is Westbrook 2.0

Suggs for Reaves...We'd have to take a long look, but it'd be tough to watch Suggs blow up on the national stage, playing with stars while Reaves tanks

[pepe1991]

I thought Black was 5-9 from mid range. I'm not sure where Pepe got 30%.

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Going by numbers and logic.

He shot 36% of all his shots inside 4 feet. That's 118 shots total.
He shot 64,4% in them, that's 76-118 =64,4%
Those are NBA.com confirmed numbers in their article

That leaves you with 211 shots & 73 makes ( 73-211 FG ,that's 34% from all non layupshots combined).

30% of that are 3s ( 28-93) witch means he shot just 38% from all non layup shots for 2.

Mid range shot is considered shot outside a key ( typically 8 feet to 3 point line) ,so by logic, and numbers, you can easly make assumpsion Black's actual mid range shot is around 30%-32%, because we know for fact his shooting numbers inside 4 feet, and we know for fact he is solid shotmaker inside 8 feet due okey-ish floater and running hooks/drives off contact cutten short.

At apsolute best his mid range percentage can't be higher than 38% due mathematical reasons, if somebody has exect 10- 19 feet percentages OR his shot chart, it would be great. I couldn't find one. I highly doubt ballhandler/PG shot 9 mid range jumpers whole season long. If he did, that's actually red flag, meaning he has apsolutley zero game between bricks for 3 and layup line where he makes most demage. That would mean he is more Ben Simmons /MCW than any other prospect before him

[basketballRob]

I thought Black was 5-9 from mid range. I'm not sure where Pepe got 30%.

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Going by numbers and logic.

He shot 36% of all his shots inside 4 feet. That's 118 shots total.
He shot 64,4% in them, that's 76-118 =64,4%
Those are NBA.com confirmed numbers in their article

That leaves you with 211 shots & 73 makes ( 73-211 FG ,that's 34% from all non layupshots combined).

30% of that are 3s ( 28-93) witch means he shot just 38% from all non layup shots for 2.

Mid range shot is considered shot outside a key ( typically 8 feet to 3 point line) ,so by logic, and numbers, you can easly make assumpsion Black's actual mid range shot is around 30%-32%, because we know for fact his shooting numbers inside 4 feet, and we know for fact he is solid shotmaker inside 8 feet due okey-ish floater and running hooks/drives off contact cutten short.

At apsolute best his mid range percentage can't be higher than 38% due mathematical reasons, if somebody has exect 10- 19 feet percentages OR his shot chart, it would be great. I couldn't find one. I highly doubt ballhandler/PG shot 9 mid range jumpers whole season long. If he did, that's actually red flag, meaning he has apsolutley zero game between bricks for 3 and layup line where he makes most demage. That would mean he is more Ben Simmons /MCW than any other prospect before him

I've heard a couple of times that he only took 9 mid range shots. I remember Lonzo Ball not taking any mid range shots when he was in college.

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[pepe1991]

I thought Black was 5-9 from mid range. I'm not sure where Pepe got 30%.

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Going by numbers and logic.

He shot 36% of all his shots inside 4 feet. That's 118 shots total.
He shot 64,4% in them, that's 76-118 =64,4%
Those are NBA.com confirmed numbers in their article

That leaves you with 211 shots & 73 makes ( 73-211 FG ,that's 34% from all non layupshots combined).

30% of that are 3s ( 28-93) witch means he shot just 38% from all non layup shots for 2.

Mid range shot is considered shot outside a key ( typically 8 feet to 3 point line) ,so by logic, and numbers, you can easly make assumpsion Black's actual mid range shot is around 30%-32%, because we know for fact his shooting numbers inside 4 feet, and we know for fact he is solid shotmaker inside 8 feet due okey-ish floater and running hooks/drives off contact cutten short.

At apsolute best his mid range percentage can't be higher than 38% due mathematical reasons, if somebody has exect 10- 19 feet percentages OR his shot chart, it would be great. I couldn't find one. I highly doubt ballhandler/PG shot 9 mid range jumpers whole season long. If he did, that's actually red flag, meaning he has apsolutley zero game between bricks for 3 and layup line where he makes most demage. That would mean he is more Ben Simmons /MCW than any other prospect before him

I've heard a couple of times that he only took 9 mid range shots. I remember Lonzo Ball not taking any mid range shots when he was in college.

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That's scary low. Lonzo couldn't shoot from mid range ( and i kept talking about it pre draft ) because his awkward shooting motion ment he had to stop, swing ball across head to even get to point of realise.
But he shot 41% for 3 on almost 200 attemps, and his team played to his strenghts.

Black's team sucks at shooting along with him.

[VFX]

There is no future for Magic with Fultz, Suggs, Black all being here in year or two.

Fultz thing runned it's course. That story goes nowhere. He is playing 7th year. Injury prone, broken jumpshot, no desire nor ability to shoot or steach floor. I don't need to see teams abusing us in playoffs due his inability to create space to know that story has no happy ending. I've seen enough basketball in my life to know how that story ends before paying him money to watch him ( and team because of him ) flop in playoffs.

Suggs thing. I'll give another year, but i'm 99,98% trading him next year for player who fits Banchero and Franz and hopefully Black for team's sucess going forward. We tried, we gave up 5th pick for PG of future. He can't play PG because he can't dribble , shoot nor play under any control. I don't need homless Marcus Smart on my roster, before any exstension talks, just trade him for player that fits your team. Rim protecting center, shooting guard, backup point guard, combo guard, whatever it's needed at that point and going forward.

I don’t think I disagree with your original assessment. I also don’t think moving Cole Anthony is the correct move if I’m looking at this roster and planning on who to keep.

As Knightro stated earlier, lineups with Cole and Suggs were a net positive backcourt. If there is any statistical indicator of who Orlando should trade for Blacks minutes, it’s Fultz. Cole stretches the floor, provides more off ball, and will cost significantly less. There is absolutely a reason why I’m hearing people representing other teams in the media echoing Cole and Suggs names before Fultz… they are more prized assets.

I’m glad that you are willing to give Suggs one more season before you pronounce him a complete bust simply because he’s not playoff form Jamal Murray in year two. If he wasn’t the best player on the roster defensively in year two (we will see with Black), then I’d say ship him out. Fortunately, he provides value outside of being a volume scorer. I’m also tired of Orlando acquiring guys that collect paychecks and don’t play with heart. Say what you will but Suggs isn’t that guy.

Maybe everyone wins and Jett Howard becomes an average defender that can be Orlando’s volume shooter a few years down the road. You are correct though that the three guards + Gary Harris cannot coexist with drafting Black. Hopefully they make the right decision.

[Knightro]

The sample size might be too small to be anything meaningful, but Suggs from Feb 1st through the end of the season (26 games) shot .430 from the floor, .380 from 3PT (3.8 attempts per game, so not an insignificant number) and .754 from the FT line.

If he can do that over the course of a whole season, he can absolutely start or at the very least play big rotation minutes at SG for this team, especially when you factor in how disruptive he is defensively.

Now can Suggs become a 35-38% 3PT guy permanently or is he the guy who had a horrific January?

Time will tell. But he had enough extended hot streaks last season to at least make me somewhat optimistic that he is progressing as a shooter and could develop into a full time starting caliber SG.

[89Magicfan]

Jalen Suggs didn't shoot 35% for 3 but 32,7%, witch is 3% below league's average. Cumulative to rookie year, he is now 27% three point shooter. That's far cry from people here talking about 38-40%. His FTs give away his actual ability to shoot. It's below average.

He had months when his shot was wet, but also had months where over 14 games streach he shot 23% for 3 in middle of a season. He even played himself basically out of rotation at one point.


You can't put him in starting lineup, especially with Fultz nor Black and act like he is your floor spacer just because you want him to be one and because he failed as PG prospect that everybody hoped him to be.

As far as Black goes, there is no doubt in my mind he will suck as shooter in nba as a rookie. It wasn't just that he was bad shooter for 3, he was bad shooter from everywhere, as his jumpshot is very funky, and he hardly jumps- on jump-shot.
Guy shot 32% from mid range. And no empty-gym-shooting in offseason will change fact that he will be overwhealmed in nba as shooter once 6'7 , 40 inch vertical guy start to run in his direction to contest shots he isn't comfortable taking, let alone making, from distance he never had to shoot before.
People love to bring Josh Giddey, but than tend to forget , or simply never watch OKC to understand dynamic of their team. When OKC needs bucket, they allow Giddey to iniciate but he, by default, gives ball at some point to SGA or in lesser degree Jalen WIlliams. Magic have nobody who is even 70% as elite as SGA is to create something out of nothing. And for damn sure that guy ain't Suggs. SGA comes off 31 ppg season as allstar and probably one of best SGs NBA has. (63% TS, 7,3 BPM, just superstar numbers). Magic 2 guards combined didn't average 30 ppg in any combination ( needless to say nowhere near his efficiency as well).


There is no future for Magic with Fultz, Suggs, Black all being here in year or two.

Fultz thing runned it's course. That story goes nowhere. He is playing 7th year. Injury prone, broken jumpshot, no desire nor ability to shoot or steach floor. I don't need to see teams abusing us in playoffs due his inability to create space to know that story has no happy ending. I've seen enough basketball in my life to know how that story ends before paying him money to watch him ( and team because of him ) flop in playoffs.

Suggs thing. I'll give another year, but i'm 99,98% trading him next year for player who fits Banchero and Franz and hopefully Black for team's sucess going forward. We tried, we gave up 5th pick for PG of future. He can't play PG because he can't dribble , shoot nor play under any control. I don't need homless Marcus Smart on my roster, before any exstension talks, just trade him for player that fits your team. Rim protecting center, shooting guard, backup point guard, combo guard, whatever it's needed at that point and going forward.


Honeymoon stage of " i love everybody" is over. It's time to make playoffs and make hard decisions. Banchero will probably fight for allstar game next year, Franz might put 20 ppg and case his designed max as well. They are knocking on a doors. You better be ready to make roster fit them, instad of running team to a ground to feel better about draft busts.

In all that it's lost that Cole is low key only modern guard Magic have, and he will probably be lost because others had bigger Front Office investments in them.
Magic are 17-9 in games Cole scores at least 15 points.
Magic are 7-15 in gamesm where he scores less than 10.

Maybe, just maybe it has to do with fact he is only guard Magic have that can do all things: pass, beat man off dribble, shoot, and force teams from not clogging paint?

But yea, let's get rid of him, he can shoot, it's clear he doesn't fit

This times a thousand. If it were up to me, I’m trading Fultz right now.

I’m running back Cole and Suggs with Black playing backup PG. I’m aiming for a SG who’s a true starting SG that spreads the floor/fits in with Paolo/Franz. If at the end of the year Suggs is the same, I’m trading him as well.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Jalen Suggs didn't shoot 35% for 3 but 32,7%, witch is 3% below league's average. Cumulative to rookie year, he is now 27% three point shooter. That's far cry from people here talking about 38-40%. His FTs give away his actual ability to shoot. It's below average.

He had months when his shot was wet, but also had months where over 14 games streach he shot 23% for 3 in middle of a season. He even played himself basically out of rotation at one point.


You can't put him in starting lineup, especially with Fultz nor Black and act like he is your floor spacer just because you want him to be one and because he failed as PG prospect that everybody hoped him to be.

As far as Black goes, there is no doubt in my mind he will suck as shooter in nba as a rookie. It wasn't just that he was bad shooter for 3, he was bad shooter from everywhere, as his jumpshot is very funky, and he hardly jumps- on jump-shot.
Guy shot 32% from mid range. And no empty-gym-shooting in offseason will change fact that he will be overwhealmed in nba as shooter once 6'7 , 40 inch vertical guy start to run in his direction to contest shots he isn't comfortable taking, let alone making, from distance he never had to shoot before.
People love to bring Josh Giddey, but than tend to forget , or simply never watch OKC to understand dynamic of their team. When OKC needs bucket, they allow Giddey to iniciate but he, by default, gives ball at some point to SGA or in lesser degree Jalen WIlliams. Magic have nobody who is even 70% as elite as SGA is to create something out of nothing. And for damn sure that guy ain't Suggs. SGA comes off 31 ppg season as allstar and probably one of best SGs NBA has. (63% TS, 7,3 BPM, just superstar numbers). Magic 2 guards combined didn't average 30 ppg in any combination ( needless to say nowhere near his efficiency as well).


There is no future for Magic with Fultz, Suggs, Black all being here in year or two.

Fultz thing runned it's course. That story goes nowhere. He is playing 7th year. Injury prone, broken jumpshot, no desire nor ability to shoot or steach floor. I don't need to see teams abusing us in playoffs due his inability to create space to know that story has no happy ending. I've seen enough basketball in my life to know how that story ends before paying him money to watch him ( and team because of him ) flop in playoffs.

Suggs thing. I'll give another year, but i'm 99,98% trading him next year for player who fits Banchero and Franz and hopefully Black for team's sucess going forward. We tried, we gave up 5th pick for PG of future. He can't play PG because he can't dribble , shoot nor play under any control. I don't need homless Marcus Smart on my roster, before any exstension talks, just trade him for player that fits your team. Rim protecting center, shooting guard, backup point guard, combo guard, whatever it's needed at that point and going forward.


Honeymoon stage of " i love everybody" is over. It's time to make playoffs and make hard decisions. Banchero will probably fight for allstar game next year, Franz might put 20 ppg and case his designed max as well. They are knocking on a doors. You better be ready to make roster fit them, instad of running team to a ground to feel better about draft busts.

In all that it's lost that Cole is low key only modern guard Magic have, and he will probably be lost because others had bigger Front Office investments in them.
Magic are 17-9 in games Cole scores at least 15 points.
Magic are 7-15 in gamesm where he scores less than 10.

Maybe, just maybe it has to do with fact he is only guard Magic have that can do all things: pass, beat man off dribble, shoot, and force teams from not clogging paint?

But yea, let's get rid of him, he can shoot, it's clear he doesn't fit

This times a thousand. If it were up to me, I’m trading Fultz right now.

I’m running back Cole and Suggs with Black playing backup PG. I’m aiming for a SG who’s a true starting SG that spreads the floor/fits in with Paolo/Franz. If at the end of the year Suggs is the same, I’m trading him as well.

Utah could use Fultz badly as a distributor but there's really no one on that team outside of Olynk that makes sense for Orlando.

Honestly, a package around Fultz/Olynk wouldn't be that bad of a deal IMO. Magic get stretch C on a 1 year deal who can fill in for WCJ when he inevitably misses 15-20 games.

[Residual-Heat]

Anthony Black's shot chart
source: https://mavsdraft.com/anthony-black-scouting-report/

Not sure if accurate.

Another shot chart I found on twitter:

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[Fortune Teller]

An additional wrinkle with Suggs is money. He will be eligible for his big second contract the same year as Franz, and a year before Paolo. You can only stockpile lottery picks for so long before you reach a balloon payment situation. There are many reasons to start consolidating the roster and mixing in veterans, and this is one.

[Audi]

Jalen Suggs didn't shoot 35% for 3 but 32,7%, witch is 3% below league's average. Cumulative to rookie year, he is now 27% three point shooter. That's far cry from people here talking about 38-40%. His FTs give away his actual ability to shoot. It's below average.

He had months when his shot was wet, but also had months where over 14 games streach he shot 23% for 3 in middle of a season. He even played himself basically out of rotation at one point.


You can't put him in starting lineup, especially with Fultz nor Black and act like he is your floor spacer just because you want him to be one and because he failed as PG prospect that everybody hoped him to be.

As far as Black goes, there is no doubt in my mind he will suck as shooter in nba as a rookie. It wasn't just that he was bad shooter for 3, he was bad shooter from everywhere, as his jumpshot is very funky, and he hardly jumps- on jump-shot.
Guy shot 32% from mid range. And no empty-gym-shooting in offseason will change fact that he will be overwhealmed in nba as shooter once 6'7 , 40 inch vertical guy start to run in his direction to contest shots he isn't comfortable taking, let alone making, from distance he never had to shoot before.
People love to bring Josh Giddey, but than tend to forget , or simply never watch OKC to understand dynamic of their team. When OKC needs bucket, they allow Giddey to iniciate but he, by default, gives ball at some point to SGA or in lesser degree Jalen WIlliams. Magic have nobody who is even 70% as elite as SGA is to create something out of nothing. And for damn sure that guy ain't Suggs. SGA comes off 31 ppg season as allstar and probably one of best SGs NBA has. (63% TS, 7,3 BPM, just superstar numbers). Magic 2 guards combined didn't average 30 ppg in any combination ( needless to say nowhere near his efficiency as well).


There is no future for Magic with Fultz, Suggs, Black all being here in year or two.

Fultz thing runned it's course. That story goes nowhere. He is playing 7th year. Injury prone, broken jumpshot, no desire nor ability to shoot or steach floor. I don't need to see teams abusing us in playoffs due his inability to create space to know that story has no happy ending. I've seen enough basketball in my life to know how that story ends before paying him money to watch him ( and team because of him ) flop in playoffs.

Suggs thing. I'll give another year, but i'm 99,98% trading him next year for player who fits Banchero and Franz and hopefully Black for team's sucess going forward. We tried, we gave up 5th pick for PG of future. He can't play PG because he can't dribble , shoot nor play under any control. I don't need homless Marcus Smart on my roster, before any exstension talks, just trade him for player that fits your team. Rim protecting center, shooting guard, backup point guard, combo guard, whatever it's needed at that point and going forward.


Honeymoon stage of " i love everybody" is over. It's time to make playoffs and make hard decisions. Banchero will probably fight for allstar game next year, Franz might put 20 ppg and case his designed max as well. They are knocking on a doors. You better be ready to make roster fit them, instad of running team to a ground to feel better about draft busts.

In all that it's lost that Cole is low key only modern guard Magic have, and he will probably be lost because others had bigger Front Office investments in them.
Magic are 17-9 in games Cole scores at least 15 points.
Magic are 7-15 in gamesm where he scores less than 10.

Maybe, just maybe it has to do with fact he is only guard Magic have that can do all things: pass, beat man off dribble, shoot, and force teams from not clogging paint?

But yea, let's get rid of him, he can shoot, it's clear he doesn't fit

This times a thousand. If it were up to me, I’m trading Fultz right now.

I’m running back Cole and Suggs with Black playing backup PG. I’m aiming for a SG who’s a true starting SG that spreads the floor/fits in with Paolo/Franz. If at the end of the year Suggs is the same, I’m trading him as well.

Concept of Cole/Suggs starting with Black off the bench is just as ridiculous as two non shooters. There's a good reason Cole is the most tenured PG on the team and yet doesn't start. What good is his floor spacing if he's not in the lineup that where it's needed most? What good is fit with Paolo and Franz if he's not playing with them? His scoring as a #1 option against bench units is a great lift, but let's not get carried away here - he'd be downgraded to #3-4th option in the SL while providing absolutely nothing on the other end. If you just want a warm body to sit there and space the floor as a shooting threat, there are far cheaper options out there.

[pepe1991]

The sample size might be too small to be anything meaningful, but Suggs from Feb 1st through the end of the season (26 games) shot .430 from the floor, .380 from 3PT (3.8 attempts per game, so not an insignificant number) and .754 from the FT line.

If he can do that over the course of a whole season, he can absolutely start or at the very least play big rotation minutes at SG for this team, especially when you factor in how disruptive he is defensively.

Now can Suggs become a 35-38% 3PT guy permanently or is he the guy who had a horrific January?

Time will tell. But he had enough extended hot streaks last season to at least make me somewhat optimistic that he is progressing as a shooter and could develop into a full time starting caliber SG.

He couldn't shoot in March as well.

It's basically how mediocre shooters shoot. Just random Kyle Kuzma/Marcus Smart shooting splits (both 33% for 3) show identical pattern. ONe month 40% for 3 , next month 28% , than return to basic performances, just to have patterns of repetition of hot/cold.

In general Jalen Suggs doesn't shoot mid range jumpers at all and doesn't make high clip of FTs. His game today is shooting thee or running at rim. Nothing wrong about it in vacuum, but becomes problem when , in potential pairing with Black, both have no mid range game and nothing to offer in space between lauyp line and 3 point line ( as Black's college season was the same, it was either layup or 3 point shot).

Franz is notorious for taking nothing in between 3 point line and layup line, so there is some potential issues in playoffs if you clog roster with players with identical habbits.

[pepe1991]

I'm not advocating for starting Cole, i'm strongly against trading him in favor of keeping 3 other guards who have identical skillset and who's skillest makes it impossible to pair them together on court for longer periods of times, and flat out are unplayable as duos in any sorts of playoff games.

[eyriq]

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[Residual-Heat]

The sample size might be too small to be anything meaningful, but Suggs from Feb 1st through the end of the season (26 games) shot .430 from the floor, .380 from 3PT (3.8 attempts per game, so not an insignificant number) and .754 from the FT line.

If he can do that over the course of a whole season, he can absolutely start or at the very least play big rotation minutes at SG for this team, especially when you factor in how disruptive he is defensively.

Now can Suggs become a 35-38% 3PT guy permanently or is he the guy who had a horrific January?

Time will tell. But he had enough extended hot streaks last season to at least make me somewhat optimistic that he is progressing as a shooter and could develop into a full time starting caliber SG.

He couldn't shoot in March as well.

It's basically how mediocre shooters shoot. Just random Kyle Kuzma/Marcus Smart shooting splits (both 33% for 3) show identical pattern. ONe month 40% for 3 , next month 28% , than return to basic performances, just to have patterns of repetition of hot/cold.

In general Jalen Suggs doesn't shoot mid range jumpers at all and doesn't make high clip of FTs. His game today is shooting thee or running at rim. Nothing wrong about it in vacuum, but becomes problem when , in potential pairing with Black, both have no mid range game and nothing to offer in space between lauyp line and 3 point line ( as Black's college season was the same, it was either layup or 3 point shot).

Franz is notorious for taking nothing in between 3 point line and layup line, so there is some potential issues in playoffs if you clog roster with players with identical habbits.

No one is arguing he's a good or even average shooter Pepe. Just that there is hope that he can be average. This season, Suggs shot 34.8% on catch and shoot 3s last season. Compared to other guards on our roster, unfortunately that is pretty decent. Fultz shot 28%, Cole shot 34.5%, Caleb 33%, Garry Harris 43%, Kevon surprisingly the leader at 45% on a much smaller sample size.