Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

[NatP4]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded, we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really.

I want Okongwu, but not sure if that is realistic.

[dorianwrite]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded, we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really.

I want Okongwu, but not sure if that is realistic.

Jay Huff at center!

I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season. And that's saying a lot, because the first time I saw him on the pro level, he looked completely unplayable. But last season? Who spiked his Kool-Aid? I wanna watch Jay Huff launch 3s and take charges and block shots and manage at least 1 improbably athletic dunk a game. I want to listen to opposing announcers lose their damn minds trying to figure out who he is and give hot takes like "ho, ho, ho, the Lakers sure must be kicking themselves for having cut this guy!" I want him to beat out Jay Vincent and Jay Murphy as the best and most beloved Jay in Bullets/Wizards history. Jay Huff for the win! (But not too many, 'cause that will mess up our lotto position.)

Seriously, give me a team full of guys like Jay Huff to root for, guys who are trying hard and maximizing their talents, because at least that will make losing 60 games vastly more palatable.

[payitforward]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?
...

How many of those players will still be Wizards when the season starts, I wonder...?

Shamet isn't going to be our backup point guard.
He did play a little PG last year -- for the first time. But, he's a 2.

His last year in college he posted a .655 TS, including .442 on 3pas (7.5 attempts per 40 minutes).
His rookie year, he shot the 3 at .422 on 9 attempts per 40 minutes & posted a .602 TS%
In fact, he had a pretty good rookie year overall.

It's been downhill since then, although he hasn't been altogether terrible.
That said, he's playing for his NBA life this year.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded....

Timing might make it easier to move Morris &/or Wright than Jones, but I don't think either will be traded because Jones is "better." Or because they like Jones better long term.

You don't seem to grasp the game Winger & Dawkins are playing. You seem to think that they'll be motivated to make sure our '23-24 team is the best team they can put on the court.
No.

Their motivation is to amass the maximum possible draft capital. Period.
The only 3 players I feel certain won't be traded are Coulabily, Vutkevic, and Baldwin (b/c he's only 20).

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Why? Because they'll make us less good?

...we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really. ...

I'm not sure what you even mean. What possible difference does it make where we are heavy or light? & to whom?

[payitforward]

...I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season....

Sure, & here is the Winger/Dawkins thought process on the subject:

"Why not? He doesn't cost us any draft capital, & if he plays well we can trade him for a R2 pick."

[NatP4]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?
...

How many of those players will still be Wizards when the season starts, I wonder...?

Shamet isn't going to be our backup point guard.
He did play a little PG last year -- for the first time. But, he's a 2.

His last year in college he posted a .655 TS, including .442 on 3pas (7.5 attempts per 40 minutes).
His rookie year, he shot the 3 at .422 on 9 attempts per 40 minutes & posted a .602 TS%
In fact, he had a pretty good rookie year overall.

It's been downhill since then, although he hasn't been altogether terrible.
That said, he's playing for his NBA life this year.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded....

Timing might make it easier to move Morris &/or Wright than Jones, but I don't think either will be traded because Jones is "better." Or because they like Jones better long term.

You don't seem to grasp the game Winger & Dawkins are playing. You seem to think that they'll be motivated to make sure our '23-24 team is the best team they can put on the court.
No.

Their motivation is to amass the maximum possible draft capital. Period.
The only 3 players I feel certain won't be traded are Coulabily, Vutkevic, and Baldwin (b/c he's only 20).

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Why? Because they'll make us less good?

...we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really. ...

I'm not sure what you even mean. What possible difference does it make where we are heavy or light? & to whom?

another laughable response.

I said Wright and Morris will be traded due to......the numerous reports stating that the wizards are actively trying to trade them. I never even said Jones is a better player, you're literally just arguing with yourself.

Who the hell would actually think Winger/Dawkins are attempting to "put the best team on the court" in 23/24? That is such an idiotic statement. You are the one that has no comprehension of the concept of taking back bad contracts with assets attached to them. It's always "Why would we want Deandre Hunter???" or "We have no use for John Collins, he's 28 years old bla bla bla"

Rollins and Baldwin will both be in the G-league because they do not have a clear path to playing time initially, and they are both 20 years old and need developmental usage in a zero pressure setting.

You still have yet to spell either of our recent draft picks names correctly.

[dckingsfan]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded, we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really.

I want Okongwu, but not sure if that is realistic.

Jay Huff at center!

I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season. And that's saying a lot, because the first time I saw him on the pro level, he looked completely unplayable. But last season? Who spiked his Kool-Aid? I wanna watch Jay Huff launch 3s and take charges and block shots and manage at least 1 improbably athletic dunk a game. I want to listen to opposing announcers lose their damn minds trying to figure out who he is and give hot takes like "ho, ho, ho, the Lakers sure must be kicking themselves for having cut this guy!" I want him to beat out Jay Vincent and Jay Murphy as the best and most beloved Jay in Bullets/Wizards history. Jay Huff for the win! (But not too many, 'cause that will mess up our lotto position.)

Seriously, give me a team full of guys like Jay Huff to root for, guys who are trying hard and maximizing their talents, because at least that will make losing 60 games vastly more palatable.

I am fully on board with this. Gafford/Huff have to be the C rotation for the fans. And I am all in favor of starting Kispert at SG (ducks).

I know, I know - it is going to be Tyrus, Poole, Kispert, Avidja & Gafford as our starting 5. But I hope that Kispert gets extended time at SG.

[mhd]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded, we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really.

I want Okongwu, but not sure if that is realistic.

Jay Huff at center!

I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season. And that's saying a lot, because the first time I saw him on the pro level, he looked completely unplayable. But last season? Who spiked his Kool-Aid? I wanna watch Jay Huff launch 3s and take charges and block shots and manage at least 1 improbably athletic dunk a game. I want to listen to opposing announcers lose their damn minds trying to figure out who he is and give hot takes like "ho, ho, ho, the Lakers sure must be kicking themselves for having cut this guy!" I want him to beat out Jay Vincent and Jay Murphy as the best and most beloved Jay in Bullets/Wizards history. Jay Huff for the win! (But not too many, 'cause that will mess up our lotto position.)

Seriously, give me a team full of guys like Jay Huff to root for, guys who are trying hard and maximizing their talents, because at least that will make losing 60 games vastly more palatable.

I am fully on board with this. Gafford/Huff have to be the C rotation for the fans. And I am all in favor of starting Kispert at SG (ducks).

I know, I know - it is going to be Tyrus, Poole, Kispert, Avidja & Gafford as our starting 5. But I hope that Kispert gets extended time at SG.

SG & SF are kind of irrelevant in today's NBA. I'd just classify them as wings. Kispert will always play defense against the worst offensive wing.

[tleikheen]

Wizards have thrown a grenade into the Wiz PG's after having the worst PG rotation the last 2 yrs . All remnants of the past PG's up for sale in a firesale. Wizards don't want anyone knowing they had Beal,KP,Kuzma,and Hachimura on the same team at the same time because it highlights how pitiful their PG play was when they had them.
This 35 win team was blamed entirely on (Beal/KP/Kuzma) instead of never giving them a good PG or for that matter in a good Coach (WUJ).WUJ is destined to be fired as soon as they can make it look good.

[dckingsfan]

Jay Huff at center!

I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season. And that's saying a lot, because the first time I saw him on the pro level, he looked completely unplayable. But last season? Who spiked his Kool-Aid? I wanna watch Jay Huff launch 3s and take charges and block shots and manage at least 1 improbably athletic dunk a game. I want to listen to opposing announcers lose their damn minds trying to figure out who he is and give hot takes like "ho, ho, ho, the Lakers sure must be kicking themselves for having cut this guy!" I want him to beat out Jay Vincent and Jay Murphy as the best and most beloved Jay in Bullets/Wizards history. Jay Huff for the win! (But not too many, 'cause that will mess up our lotto position.)

Seriously, give me a team full of guys like Jay Huff to root for, guys who are trying hard and maximizing their talents, because at least that will make losing 60 games vastly more palatable.

I am fully on board with this. Gafford/Huff have to be the C rotation for the fans. And I am all in favor of starting Kispert at SG (ducks).

I know, I know - it is going to be Tyrus, Poole, Kispert, Avidja & Gafford as our starting 5. But I hope that Kispert gets extended time at SG.

SG & SF are kind of irrelevant in today's NBA. I'd just classify them as wings. Kispert will always play defense against the worst offensive wing.

Yep, unless it is Poole/Kispert - I guess that was my (not well laid out) point.

[DCZards]

Wizards have thrown a grenade into the Wiz PG's after having the worst PG rotation the last 2 yrs . All remnants of the past PG's up for sale in a firesale. Wizards don't want anyone knowing they had Beal,KP,Kuzma,and Hachimura on the same team at the same time because it highlights how pitiful their PG play was when they had them.
This 35 win team was blamed entirely on (Beal/KP/Kuzma) instead of never giving them a good PG or for that matter in a good Coach (WUJ).WUJ is destined to be fired as soon as they can make it look good.

Beal, KP, Rui, and, most likely, Kuz are gone. Who the Zards had at PG the last 2 yrs is irrelevant at this point. Time to move on.

[Hibachi_0]

I think so? It's so difficult to find any news on him. The guy shot 30 something percent as a C in the previous year, I'm not sure we even want him on the summer league team. I know you liked the upside, but WTF happened in 2021 lol

He has almost fully recovered from his hamstring injury and will start preseason with Unicaja. After, they are looking to send him on a loan. Probably to a weaker ACB team. If it wasn't for his injury we would have seen what he has to offer as he would have had lots of minutes. Hopefully, we can see him play this year.

[payitforward]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?
...

How many of those players will still be Wizards when the season starts, I wonder...?

Shamet isn't going to be our backup point guard.
He did play a little PG last year -- for the first time. But, he's a 2.

His last year in college he posted a .655 TS, including .442 on 3pas (7.5 attempts per 40 minutes).
His rookie year, he shot the 3 at .422 on 9 attempts per 40 minutes & posted a .602 TS%
In fact, he had a pretty good rookie year overall.

It's been downhill since then, although he hasn't been altogether terrible.
That said, he's playing for his NBA life this year.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded....

Timing might make it easier to move Morris &/or Wright than Jones, but I don't think either will be traded because Jones is "better." Or because they like Jones better long term.

You don't seem to grasp the game Winger & Dawkins are playing. You seem to think that they'll be motivated to make sure our '23-24 team is the best team they can put on the court.
No.

Their motivation is to amass the maximum possible draft capital. Period.
The only 3 players I feel certain won't be traded are Coulabily, Vutkevic, and Baldwin (b/c he's only 20).

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Why? Because they'll make us less good?

...we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really. ...

I'm not sure what you even mean. What possible difference does it make where we are heavy or light? & to whom?

another laughable response.

I said Wright and Morris will be traded due to......the numerous reports stating that the wizards are actively trying to trade them. I never even said Jones is a better player, you're literally just arguing with yourself.

Who the hell would actually think Winger/Dawkins are attempting to "put the best team on the court" in 23/24? That is such an idiotic statement. You are the one that has no comprehension of the concept of taking back bad contracts with assets attached to them. It's always "Why would we want Deandre Hunter???" or "We have no use for John Collins, he's 28 years old bla bla bla"

Rollins and Baldwin will both be in the G-league because they do not have a clear path to playing time initially, and they are both 20 years old and need developmental usage in a zero pressure setting.

You still have yet to spell either of our recent draft picks names correctly.

Aah, I've offended you -- you have my apologies.

OTOH, I think I've written Coulibaly's name correctly any number of times, but it's true that I am inclined to swap the "a" & "i" for some reason. As to Tristan Vukčević, I've got it now! Don't know where I got that "tk" idea from....

I've read the same reports you have about Morris -- all I meant to say was that the game Winger/Dawkins are playing is "amass draft capital."

As to Collins or Hunter -- now that a new FO has changed the game, you are right: draft assets attached to a bad contract might well make for the basis of a deal good for our rebuild.

You're also right that Baldwin & Rollins will (& should) spend time in the G League if it gets them significant PT that they can't get w/ the Wizards. Probably I'm just eager for both of them to get that court time with the Wizards; I want to see what they bring.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Here is my Free Agent target for the Wizards...

Moussa Diabate

RFA (Clippers)

Moussa Diabaté is a French professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Clippers of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Ontario Clippers of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Michigan Wolverines. Diabaté was a consensus five-star recruit and one of the top centers in the 2021 class. - Wikipedia

Position: Center ▪ Shoots: Right

6-11, 210lb (211cm, 95kg)

Born: January 21, 2002 (Age: 21-158d) in Paris, France fr

College: Michigan

High Schools: Florida Preparatory Academy in Melbourne, Florida, DME Academy in Daytona Beach, Florida, IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida

Recruiting Rank: 2021 (11)

Draft: Los Angeles Clippers, 2nd round (13th pick, 43rd overall), 2022 NBA Draft


https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631217/moussa-diabate

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[joshuacf]

Seems like this will be the rotation initially:

Tyus Shamet
Poole Davis
Kispert Coulibaly
Avdija Vukcevic? Cooks? Gill?
Gafford Muscala?

Expect Rollins and Baldwin to start with the Go-Go.

Wright and Morris will almost certainly be traded, we are extremely light at the C position. Think Vukcevic is more of a 4 really.

I want Okongwu, but not sure if that is realistic.

I hope we buy out Shamet. He's just gonna eat into the young guys' minutes. I'd much prefer to give those minutes to Rollins or another young PG that we sign.

[gambitx777]

Kennedy Chandler. Would be a big target of mine in the off season. Don't know what happened in Memphis but I loved him in the draft!

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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[tleikheen]

[quote]Beal, KP, Rui, and, most likely, Kuz are gone. Who the Zards had at PG the last 2 yrs is irrelevant at this point. Time to move on.[/quote}

It is relevant ..... Wiz are going to take a deep dive in the standings next yr and stay there for a lot of yrs and there's no guarantee when and if they get better .
Alot of Wiz fans are going to see KP and the Celtics and Beal and the Suns ,Rui and the Lakers ,Kuz and the ? Kings?,rise to the top in the Western Conf and Eastern Conf races and remember the Wiz had all 4 of them .

[gambitx777]

With Chicago going all in again I think we can really get value out or Morris and wright for Lonzo !

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[tleikheen]

With Chicago going all in again I think we can really get value out or Morris and wright for Lonzo !

LOL this really highlites who Beal /KP/Kuz/Rui had as their PGs ..... 2 backup PG'e except playing for the Wizards proposed in a trade for a PG (Lonzo Ball) ,likely done for his career as a "value " trade ....Laughable

[payitforward]

Kennedy Chandler. Would be a big target of mine in the off season. Don't know what happened in Memphis but I loved him in the draft!

Absolutely! Add me to the list!

Given the current project, I'd rather have him than any one of the current 3 PGs.