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Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30)

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1801 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:04 pm

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As Kristaps Porziņģis is introduced Thursday and free agency opens 24 hours later, Brad Stevens and the front office continue actively exploring trade opportunities, according to league sources. After trading Marcus Smart, Boston still has a potential need for playmaking, depending on how the Malcolm Brogdon situation shakes out after a deal to trade him to the Clippers fell apart last week.

Then there is Grant Williams’ restricted free agency, as the Celtics weigh whether to keep someone who can fill an important role long-term as the frontcourt’s hustle guy. Al Horford can still do that to a degree this upcoming season, but players’ activity levels and aggression tend to drop off dramatically in their late 30s.

Jordan Walsh will eventually be able to help bring the kind of physical perimeter defense that was a big part of Williams’ role, team sources expect him to need some time to jump into that spot on a contending team.

With the Celtics expected to agree to a two-year contract extension with Porziņģis on July 6 that can pay him up to $77 million, matching a Williams offer sheet will make it incredibly hard to stay out of the second apron for the coming years once the team makes its likely supermax offer to Jaylen Brown.


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Jarred Weiss doesn’t have sources. The same day we traded for KP he said Grant was very likely to stay.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1802 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:09 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1803 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:17 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1804 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:17 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:I think the only move Brad's going to make is about Grant.

The final piece, for now, will be using that MLE.

Cs are running it back with the only major change is swapping Smart for #8.

Brogdon will be gone by the middle of July is my opinion. Brogdon can't defend a wet paper bag.

Might be that there isn’t a great fit for him out there currently.

I’d entertain PP and another smaller contract plus the GS pick for Jalen Suggs. Tough Marcus smart type still with some room to grow who can be the third guard minutes eater while he develops. Brogdon can get the handle with care treatment and play around 1000 minutes or less, or be moved later for a better fit.

Then just get a vet min PF.

I don't know how realistic it is to get Suggs. I would think Orlando would prefer to move Gary Harris or Cole Anthony (and possibly even Fultz) instead of him. And the asking price would probably be pretty high to get him, since he was a top 5 pick just 2 yrs ago. And while he has had an up and down first 2 seasons, a lot of his struggles are due to injuries. And being on a horrible team his rookie year.

Again, it probably isn't that realistic. But if we could get him without giving up much, I'd definitely go for it. Literally everyone had him as a top 5 pick coming out of college. He could end up being really good...everyone thought this guy was going to be a star PG in the league..he still could end up being one.

Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1805 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:18 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1806 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:19 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1807 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:19 pm

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Is that counting Grant’s cap hold?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1808 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:21 pm

When the FVV s of the world are making $41.8 million a year, $60 M. for Brown doesn't seem so bad after all.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1809 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:23 pm

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Is that counting Grant’s cap hold?

Nope.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1810 » by BleedGreen1989 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:26 pm

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Poor man’s Jalen Brunson getting paid.

(In all seriousness, I don’t hate this strategy for Houston)
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1811 » by Scarletfire81 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:33 pm

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Damn, if that’s the market value than JB is easily worth $50 million per season.
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Post#1812 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:34 pm

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Good news for Brogdon's trade market
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1813 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:38 pm

If Masai's already committed to Poeltl they've got the MLE and trades to replace Van Vleet..

Brogdon wouldn't be my first choice for them, but Gary Trent is even value.. or they could get bigger and move one of Siakam/OG to a third team with Brogdon part of the value coming back..
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1815 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:44 pm

Possible Two-Way deal for Yammy, rhymes with Tommy...

From The Athletic:

Juhann Begarin, Boston’s 2021 second-round pick, has signed a two-year deal with French club Nanterre and will not come to Boston this upcoming season. Israeli point guard Yam Madar, 22, who Boston drafted in 2020, could still arrive for training camp after his international duties this summer.

Boston has room on the back end of its roster for a point guard with good pace control and vision like Madar, though he still has a lot of development both in his skills and physicality to be ready for the NBA. But multiple league sources believe Madar should be ready for a two-way this upcoming season.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1816 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:44 pm

Eric Gordon is having his option declined. Run to sign him. Grab him, Bruce Brown, and trade Kornet and Brogdon for a playmaker.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1817 » by steefP2 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:47 pm

chrisab123 wrote:Eric Gordon is having his option declined. Run to sign him. Grab him, Bruce Brown, and trade Kornet and Brogdon for a playmaker.



How ?
With what ?

These are not feasible options for this team
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1818 » by lon3lytoaster » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:47 pm

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100% as a fringe 2nd string wing. We had Sam largely in that role but was pining for us to add another wing at the deadline. Would have much rather traded a 2nd for him than Muscala.

Idk if you have to split the TMLE for him, or if he can be had on a minimum but would be happy to have him back.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1819 » by Triple M » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:47 pm

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Stein says FVV/Brooks to Houston and Drummond to Dallas


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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30) 

Post#1820 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:49 pm

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Stein says FVV/Brooks to Houston and Drummond to Dallas


Who is brooks again?

Dillon Brooks

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