2023 Off-season Thread

[City of Trees]

Keeping Kessler is the right move. Cheap depth and hopefully they can develop him. I like what I saw after the trade.

[City of Trees]

Read on Twitter

If Kuzma's hang up with signing in Sacramento is wanting a bigger role then I am 100% okay with it. He would need to be signing here with the intent to buy in to a 3rd/4th option role for it to make any sense.

One of the concerns with Kuzma is he willing to pass up non efficient shots for the Kings flowing offense. He hasn't even signed and we already hear Kuz doesn't like that. Yea, pass on Kuzma.

The Rockets may not aggressively pursue him.

After that tweet I didn’t like, could you imagine if he came here anyways because FA money dried up, not out of choice?

That would be a bitter taste for me.

For me, his tweet didn't cross the line. But I would be pissed if he came here just for the money only to become a ball stopper

[OxAndFox]

One of the concerns with Kuzma is he willing to pass up non efficient shots for the Kings flowing offense. He hasn't even signed and we already hear Kuz doesn't like that. Yea, pass on Kuzma.

The Rockets may not aggressively pursue him.

After that tweet I didn’t like, could you imagine if he came here anyways because FA money dried up, not out of choice?

That would be a bitter taste for me.

For me, his tweet didn't cross the line. But I would be pissed if he came here just for the money only to become a ball stopper

Completely agree with this sentiment and agree with Boogie too. If he is coming here because it's the 2nd choice after Houston of all places. Yeah, pass and that would, for me anyway, qualify thoughts on him being a selfish player that is also a losing player.

[Mirotic12]

Olympiacos increased their contract offer amount to Sasha Vezenkov to $20.1 million over 4 years.

[City of Trees]

Olympiacos increased their contract offer amount to Sasha Vezenkov to $20.1 million over 4 years.

Damn it's a bidding war

[BoogieTime]

Given the teams who have cap, cap remaining, preliminary reports of interests of those teams, and those teams rosters, it’s tough to see where the market for Kuzma is besides the Kings if that’s true. Unless the Wizards are amenable to a s/t.

[OxAndFox]

Olympiacos increased their contract offer amount to Sasha Vezenkov to $20.1 million over 4 years.

Damn it's a bidding war

It makes it interesting for sure. Not sure about the raise for the room exception, or even if there is one. But even if it's 8% it's only a contract for 2/$16,061,760. If it's the same salary each season it's 2/$15,444,000.

This makes me think, why not sign him into cap space and use the room exception on someone else? The reason is the room exception is only a 2-year contract.

[LightTheBeam]

Let's say we go worst case scenario where Sabonis gets the raise, Barnes/Lyles resign, and Sasha comes over.. really just running it back.

What do we think about a 1 year deal for Christian Wood at that point? Honestly I could think of worse ways to spend the money. At that point we are doing a total punt on defense, might as well add another backup who could score.

Wood - Lyles - Sasha - Monk - Mitchell

I mean we would give up 130, but maybe we score 135?

[OxAndFox]

Olympiacos increased their contract offer amount to Sasha Vezenkov to $20.1 million over 4 years.

Oh come on Mirotic12, what are you his agent! Stop with this

[OxAndFox]

Let's say we go worst case scenario where Sabonis gets the raise, Barnes/Lyles resign, and Sasha comes over.. really just running it back.

What do we think about a 1 year deal for Christian Wood at that point? Honestly I could think of worse ways to spend the money. At that point we are doing a total punt on defense, might as well add another backup who could score.

Wood - Lyles - Sasha - Monk - Mitchell

I mean we would give up 130, but maybe we score 135?

I had this thought today and feel sick about it...adding Wood. But what you mentioned is why it came to me.

But it wouldn't be running it back with Vezenkov. We would be a much better team, but still that nagging interior defense will still be lacking.

[WashWiz54]

The Kings have been my favorite team not named the Wizards since the 2000’s. Fell in love with the Webber led teams as a kid and always kept up with you guys and made sure to go to as many Kings-Wizard games as I could growing up. I remember being at the Wizards game where John Salmons hit the buzzer beater after Arenas hit a FT to go up three. Unfortunately for the Kings it was .1 seconds too late.

Anyway, all that is to say…. I like your team a lot and with the Wizards now rebuilding, I hope y’all just keep getting better. Kyle Kuzma is not the answer to get better. Stay away especially at the price you would have to pay. He is inefficient, he chucks, he just isn’t it.

[blind prophet]

I wanted to go on record of dumping Holmes as a fantastic choice.

You get a chance to do that considering where we are today, you do it.

Now, what we end up doing with the cap. That is a different "rating". We'll see.

[codydaze]

Let's say we go worst case scenario where Sabonis gets the raise, Barnes/Lyles resign, and Sasha comes over.. really just running it back.

What do we think about a 1 year deal for Christian Wood at that point? Honestly I could think of worse ways to spend the money. At that point we are doing a total punt on defense, might as well add another backup who could score.

Wood - Lyles - Sasha - Monk - Mitchell

I mean we would give up 130, but maybe we score 135?

Honestly not a fan of Wood at all, there's a reason he's been on 7 teams in 7 NBA seasons. I would rather just give the backup 5 spot to Queta, to be honest, if Christian Wood was the plan.

[LightTheBeam]

Let's say we go worst case scenario where Sabonis gets the raise, Barnes/Lyles resign, and Sasha comes over.. really just running it back.

What do we think about a 1 year deal for Christian Wood at that point? Honestly I could think of worse ways to spend the money. At that point we are doing a total punt on defense, might as well add another backup who could score.

Wood - Lyles - Sasha - Monk - Mitchell

I mean we would give up 130, but maybe we score 135?

Honestly not a fan of Wood at all, there's a reason he's been on 7 teams in 7 NBA seasons. I would rather just give the backup 5 spot to Queta, to be honest, if Christian Wood was the plan.

Ya I'm not a huge fan of Wood either. Not sure if it's lack of defense or locker room issues, I do think he will go to a contender this year for cheap and find a bench role to fix his value.

More so if the plan is run it back, he could present a very low risk/high reward 1 year cheap prove it deal. If it doesn't work out, you still have Queta like you said to take the minutes.

[LightTheBeam]

I wanted to go on record of dumping Holmes as a fantastic choice.

You get a chance to do that considering where we are today, you do it.

Now, what we end up doing with the cap. That is a different "rating". We'll see.

Exactly this. People trying to lump the two decisions together.

The Holmes deal made sense.

Lets see if what they do in free agency makes sense.

I also saw someone say if we sign Kuzma its a huge mistake because we turned Barnes/Holmes/24 into Kuzma. Idk, if you asked me about that trade last deadline I probably say yes without thinking much about it.

[OGSactownballer]

The Rockets may not aggressively pursue him.

After that tweet I didn’t like, could you imagine if he came here anyways because FA money dried up, not out of choice?

That would be a bitter taste for me.

For me, his tweet didn't cross the line. But I would be pissed if he came here just for the money only to become a ball stopper

Completely agree with this sentiment and agree with Boogie too. If he is coming here because it's the 2nd choice after Houston of all places. Yeah, pass and that would, for me anyway, qualify thoughts on him being a selfish player that is also a losing player.

Agree with this 100%!

I don’t want a self centered money chaser. I want a guy who wants to be a part of a championship contender perennially.

[OGSactownballer]

Olympiacos increased their contract offer amount to Sasha Vezenkov to $20.1 million over 4 years.

Damn it's a bidding war

That’s still 2-3 million less than we are offering.

[LightTheBeam]

Wiretap saying Cleveland wants Miles Bridges. Has the stink wore off enough? A name we haven't discussed here at all. But he is literally the best player and perfect fit in free agency.

20/7/4/1/1
only 25 years old

Didn't dive enough into his off-court issues. But just speaking in the sense of him as a player, I'd go 4/120

[codydaze]

Wiretap saying Cleveland wants Miles Bridges. Has the stink wore off enough? A name we haven't discussed here at all. But he is literally the best player and perfect fit in free agency.

20/7/4/1/1
only 25 years old

Didn't dive enough into his off-court issues. But just speaking in the sense of him as a player, I'd go 4/120

Culturally, I don't think he has the type of character we're looking to bring into the locker room. I hear Monte talk a lot about "high character" and we seem to be building a very family-centric culture here. Bringing in a domestic abuser doesn't seem like a move Monte would make but I do agree the talent is there. Personally, I would be very conflicted about the move.

[LightTheBeam]

Wiretap saying Cleveland wants Miles Bridges. Has the stink wore off enough? A name we haven't discussed here at all. But he is literally the best player and perfect fit in free agency.

20/7/4/1/1
only 25 years old

Didn't dive enough into his off-court issues. But just speaking in the sense of him as a player, I'd go 4/120

Culturally, I don't think he has the type of character we're looking to bring into the locker room. I hear Monte talk a lot about "high character" and we seem to be building a very family-centric culture here. Bringing in a domestic abuser doesn't seem like a move Monte would make but I do agree the talent is there. Personally, I would be very conflicted about the move.

Ya it's gross. I really liked him coming out of college and early years in Charlotte. Sucked to see him involved in DV.