Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 5, 2023-24 – (6PM [ET], Fri, June 30)

[Riverwalk2021]

Imagine doing White/Brogdon for Kyrie lol....Dallas should want to do that

[165bows]

Brogdon and Champagnie for Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olynyk. Even float them some crappy draft pick.

A talent downgrade in the back court for a much more reliable guy and more depth.

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I mean, maybe he's top 10 but that was a horrible draft class haha. Being top 10 in that class isn't saying much.

Edit. I'd probably say he's about 12th in the class, at best.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Brogdon and Champagnie for Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olynyk. Even float them some crappy draft pick.

A talent downgrade in the back court for a much more reliable guy and more depth.

You’d have to send out Pritchard to keep us under the apron, you lose the tax MLE but I’m not sure you’d even make it under the apron after

[playa-hater]

The boring wait Is killing me and yet i feel excitement right around the corner

[lon3lytoaster]

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

[165bows]

Brogdon and Champagnie for Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olynyk. Even float them some crappy draft pick.

A talent downgrade in the back court for a much more reliable guy and more depth.

You’d have to send out Pritchard to keep us under the apron, you lose the tax MLE but I’m not sure you’d even make it under the apron after

It would add $2M. They could move PP in the same deal and replace him with Yam and it would be a total cost savings. It's not some splurge.

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I personally hope our roster going into the season will look like this. It won't, but I think it covers all the bases.

White, Pritchard, JD Davison
Brown, Brogdon, (Javonte Green on minimum deal)
Tatum, (Josh Richardson or Cedi Usman which ever one if we can swing Grant S&T), Hauser
RW3, Horford, (Kabengele on minimum deal)
Porzingis, Kornet, (Azubuike or on minimum deal)
2-ways:
Walsh (SF), Valerio-Bodon (SF/PF), Balcerowski (C)

Man, you should really just give up on the Kabengele dream Not getting onto the summer league team was the nail in his coffin.

Look at last year's summer league team. We had Brodric Thomas, Justin Jackson and Matt Ryan on there. Meaning, all 3 of those guys were being given a shot at earning a training camp invite. Thomas and Jackson got a TC invite. We parted ways with Ryan after SL. Kabengele didn't even get a SL invite, though..

[La Flame]

Yeah Jeff Green would be okay, I think he owes us at least one good year.

Unleash the Benzos... I remember those comments so long ago.

A calming veteran presence - never gets too high or too low.

Except when he's high on benzos

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move.

With that being said, the nuggets just won the title with only 1 guard in their rotation (Murray). KCP, Brown and Braun are wings. That's 1 guard and 3 wings. We could have 1 guard (white) and 3 wings (tatum, Brown, Hauser). Plus we'd have another guard we could put in there if necessary (Pritchard) who was the 8th man when we went to the NBA finals.

[CelticFaninLBC]

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Can see a deal with the Clippers and Washington being revisited with either Monte Morris or Delon Wright as targets.

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move.

With that being said, the nuggets just won the title with only 1 guard in their rotation (Murray). KCP, Brown and Braun are wings. That's 1 guard and 3 wings. We could have 1 guard (white) and 3 wings (tatum, Brown, Hauser). Plus we'd have another guard we could put in there if necessary (Pritchard) who was the 8th man when we went to the NBA finals.

As of now I presume the starting lineup would be White, Brown, Tatum, Rob, Porzi -- with Malcolm as 6th man.
If Malcolm goes, they really only need another backup, though Brad could try to upgrade at the starting point.

[vct33]

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If they trade Brogs... some (possible) guys coming back:

Guards:
Collin Sexton (edit: maybe Clarkson as well now that's he's tradeable)
Alex Caruso
Cole Anthony/Jalen Suggs
Buddy Hield
Delon Wright/Monte Morris
Boring talked about guys like Davion Mitchell or Anfernee Simons
Devonte Graham (Huge P!)

Obviously some of these guys would take some asset to get along with.

No chance of Rozier in a Brogdon deal? Double S&T with Brogdon & Grant to Charlotte & Rozier & Oubre to Boston? I need that kind of fire added to this team.

[Scarletfire81]

Hmmmm...

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Kyrie would retire, so would half the fan base lol.

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Can see a deal with the Clippers and Washington being revisited with either Monte Morris or Delon Wright as targets.

My list of potential backup guard targets. Some are free agents. Some would have to be a trade..not ranked in any particular order:

Gabe Vincent
Cole Anthony
Delon Wright
Vasilije Micic
Markelle Fultz
Jalen Suggs
Monte Morris
Patrick Beverley
Kyle Lowry
Alex Caruso
Dennis Smith Jr
Seth Curry
TJ McConnell
Jevon Carter

[BK_2020]

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move.

With that being said, the nuggets just won the title with only 1 guard in their rotation (Murray). KCP, Brown and Braun are wings. That's 1 guard and 3 wings. We could have 1 guard (white) and 3 wings (tatum, Brown, Hauser). Plus we'd have another guard we could put in there if necessary (Pritchard) who was the 8th man when we went to the NBA finals.

Denver did not lack ballhandling. KCP has been a SG his whole career. Bruce Brown has played PG as much as Center. A 1-8 lineup with a bunch of bigs and Jaylen Brown is not the same thing.

[Shak_Celts]

Hell no!

[flintsky21]

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move.

With that being said, the nuggets just won the title with only 1 guard in their rotation (Murray). KCP, Brown and Braun are wings. That's 1 guard and 3 wings. We could have 1 guard (white) and 3 wings (tatum, Brown, Hauser). Plus we'd have another guard we could put in there if necessary (Pritchard) who was the 8th man when we went to the NBA finals.

Every winning team is constructed differently. You can't just follow Denver's blueprint position by position and assume we're gonna have the same result. Murray is their only pure PG, but Brown played minutes as a guard. And of course they got the greatest point-center in history.

You have to look at it in the view of having 8 playoff-worthy, heck even Finals-worthy rotation guys. Denver had Jokic, Murray, Gordon, MPJ, KCP, Brown, Green, and Braun. At the moment, we got Tatum, JB, KP, White, Brogdon, Horford, and Rob. That's 7. Maybe PP or Hauser is gonna be that 8th guy. Maybe a TPE guy will. But if you're moving Brogdon, you better make sure whoever's replacing him is gonna be good enough to be part of the 8.

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I’m not sure who this guy is and it wouldn’t surprise me if we traded Brogdon but would be pretty concerned with our guard rotation.

Also would put a lot of eggs in the Derrick white basket. They’re not just high on him, they’re mainlining him.

Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move.

With that being said, the nuggets just won the title with only 1 guard in their rotation (Murray). KCP, Brown and Braun are wings. That's 1 guard and 3 wings. We could have 1 guard (white) and 3 wings (tatum, Brown, Hauser). Plus we'd have another guard we could put in there if necessary (Pritchard) who was the 8th man when we went to the NBA finals.

Denver did not lack ballhandling. KCP has been a SG his whole career. Bruce Brown has played PG as much as Center. A 1-8 lineup with a bunch of bigs and Jaylen Brown is not the same thing.

I don't really agree with any of that.

SG, SF, whatever you want to call it. It's semantics. KCP is a wing. He's not a guard who is gonna bring the ball up the floor or run the offense. He's a guy who just stands out on the perimeter and when he's left open, he shoots it.

Bruce Brown is a wing - he's listed as a SF on the Nuggets roster. Doesn't shoot it much at all from the perimeter. Not a guy you really want handling the ball a whole lot.

No idea where you're getting this "Jaylen Brown and a bunch of bigs" stuff from. Did Derrick White die? The Nuggets rotated Murray (a guard) and 2 wings (KCP and Bruce Brown) at the guard spots. Just like we could rotate a guard (White) and 2 wings (Tatum and Brown) at those spots. Tatum and Brown can both defend the perimeter in a similar way to how KCP and Bruce brown do. Tatum and jaylen brown can handle the ball out on the perimeter and initiate actions just as well as KCP and bruce brown can. While Hauser can play a similar role to Christian Braun.

And as I already said, "Obviously if we moved Brogdon, we would acquire another guard - either in that same trade or in a different move."

I'm simply saying that if we move Brogdon and get a wing instead of a guard, it's not the end of the world. The nuggets won a title with 1 guard in the rotation and so could we.

And again, if we were in a pinch, we could put Pritchard (8th man for us when we went to NBA finals) in there too.