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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#921 » by dorianwrite » Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:38 pm

payitforward wrote:
dorianwrite wrote:...I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season....

Sure, & here is the Winger/Dawkins thought process on the subject:

"Why not? He doesn't cost us any draft capital, & if he plays well we can trade him for a R2 pick."


The Jay Huff Bandwagon rolls right over your party-pooping ways.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#922 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:29 pm

tleikheen wrote:... Wiz are going to take a deep dive in the standings next yr and stay there for a lot of yrs and there's no guarantee when and if they get better ....

Can't be denied.

But, let me make sure I understand you: Winger's explicitly-stated intention is to rebuild & contend for & ultimately win a championship. Are you suggesting that's a bad idea on his part? I.e. that:

1. Winger & Dawkins should not have traded Beal? They were wrong, & you wouldn't have done that?
2. Winger & Dawkins should not have traded KP? That was a bad decision, & you would have kept him?
3. Winger & Dawkins should re-sign Kuzma rather than letting him go to another team? That's what you'd do?
4. Winger & Dawkins should try to re-sign Rui (given that he is a RFA now), which realistically probably wouldn't work -- but at least they should try?

Is that what you're saying?
After all, if even 1 of these superstars per team means that
tleikheen wrote:...KP and the Celtics and Beal and the Suns ,Rui and the Lakers ,Kuz and the ? Kings?,rise to the top in the Western Conf and Eastern Conf races....

then surely with, as you say, "all 4 of them" it would be the Wizards dominating the East this year! Presumably with your preferred upgrade at PG &, of course, a different coach (chosen by you).

Do I have that right? Or have I misunderstood your prediction?

But, tleikheen, what if...

1. Beal and Suns do NOT "rise to the top of the Western Conf" &
2. Rui & the Lakers DON'T "rise to the top of the Western Conf" either

won't that mean that you are wrong?

&, given that Boston was already at the top of the Eastern Conference (with the 2d best record in the entire league last year !) but didn't make it to the finals, what if they don't improve? Record no better (maybe not as good...?) & still don't make the Finals... will that indicate that you are wrong?

Kuz hasn't been signed by the Kings & may wind up somewhere else, so I'll leave him out. Maybe you'll get your desire, & Winger/Dawkins will give him $30m a year so that he can remain a Wizard, who knows?

That's what you think they should do, right?
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#923 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:32 pm

dorianwrite wrote:
payitforward wrote:
dorianwrite wrote:...I would like to officially inaugurate The Jay Huff Bandwagon for the 2023-24 Wizards season....

Sure, & here is the Winger/Dawkins thought process on the subject:

"Why not? He doesn't cost us any draft capital, & if he plays well we can trade him for a R2 pick."

The Jay Huff Bandwagon rolls right over your party-pooping ways.

:)
Why "party-pooping"?
Seems like that's the way they approach any signing this off season!
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#924 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:33 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:Kennedy Chandler. Would be a big target of mine in the off season. Don't know what happened in Memphis but I loved him in the draft!

Absolutely! Add me to the list!

Given the current project, I'd rather have him than any one of the current 3 PGs.
Maybe Jones likes him too? I'm hoping we can bring him in. I wanted him so bad. And if he's the drizzling **** so be it.

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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#925 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:35 pm

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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#926 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:04 pm

ESPN+ Off-season look at your WW
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/37919086/nba-free-agency-2023-priorities-needs-all-30-teams

Washington Wizards

Offseason transactions: Jordan Poole (trade), Tyus Jones (trade), Danilo Gallinari (trade), Mike Muscala (trade), Patrick Baldwin Jr. (trade), Ryan Rollins (trade), Landry Shamet (trade), Bilal Coulibaly (draft) and Tristan Vukcevic (draft)

Who to watch: Michael Winger

At his introductory news conference new team president Michael Winger gave a preview of what the offseason could look like.

"Full authority to reset the team, if that's what we decide to do,'' Winger said. "We just haven't sat down and figured it out yet.''

Five transactions later, Winger and his front office have indeed reset the roster, but the front office still has work to do this offseason.

It starts with the free agency of Kyle Kuzma and determining if the forward fits with the retooling of the roster. If not, is there a sign-and-trade opportunity that would gain the Wizards draft compensation?

Next is a guard-heavy roster that features Poole, Jones, Coulibaly, Shamet, Monte Morris, Delon Wright and Corey Kispert. It is hard to see the Wizards starting training camp with all seven players on the roster.

What else to watch:

Balancing the roster: 16 players under contract

Available exceptions: $12.4 million midlevel, $4.5 million biannual, trade ($12.4 million, $5.4 million , $2.7 million, $1.6 million) and veteran minimum

Below the luxury tax: $43 million

Key dates:

Oct. 23: The deadline to extend the contract of Deni Avdija

Oct. 23: The last day to exercise the third-year team option for Johnny Davis and fourth-year team option for Kispert

Projected Depth Chart
PG SG SF PF C
T. Jones J. Poole D. Avdija D. Gallinari D. Gafford
M. Morris B. Coulibaly C. Kispert A. Gill M. Muscala
D. Wright L. Shamet J. Davis P. Baldwin
R. Rollins X. Cooks
Q. Jackson2

Other: Tristan Vukcevic (C/PF)
2: Two-Way
Players under contract: 16

Two-way players: 1

Team needs:

Frontcourt depth

Extension eligible: Kuzma (through June 30 and next season if player option is exercised), Morris and Avdija (rookie)

Free agent status:

Taj Gibson | Non-Bird

Kyle Kuzma | Player | Bird

Kendrick Nunn | Early Bird

Jay Huff | Restricted | Non-Bird


Bird rights explainer
Bird rights

A team can exceed the cap to sign a free agent who has played three consecutive seasons with his current team. Bird rights transfer to a new team in a trade.

Early Bird rights

Teams can exceed the cap to sign a player who has spent two consecutive seasons with a team (without being waived, carries over in a trade), but they are restricted to 175% of his previous salary or 105% of the average player salary. A team can exceed either limit with available cap space. A contract signed using the early Bird exception must be for a minimum of two years, not including options. It cannot exceed four years.

Non-Bird rights

A free agent who has played one season with a team can sign for 120% of his previous contract or 120% of the minimum salary exception. Teams can exceed either limit but only with cap space or an exception.

Restricted free agent

A free agent either coming off his first-round rookie contract or who has signed a three-year contract and has three or fewer years of service can be given a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent. In that case, his current team would have the right to match any offer. If the player is coming off a one-year or two-year deal, the maximum salary in the first year on an offer sheet from another team cannot exceed the full midlevel.

NOTE: A first-round pick who had his third-year or fourth-year option in his rookie-scale contract declined cannot be extended a qualifying offer and becomes an unrestricted free agent. His current team is limited to offering a contract with a first-year salary worth up to the value of the declined option.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#927 » by Wizardspride » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:06 pm

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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#928 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:30 am

80sballboy wrote:ESPN+ Off-season look at your WW
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/37919086/nba-free-agency-2023-priorities-needs-all-30-teams

Washington Wizards

Offseason transactions: Jordan Poole (trade), Tyus Jones (trade), Danilo Gallinari (trade), Mike Muscala (trade), Patrick Baldwin Jr. (trade), Ryan Rollins (trade), Landry Shamet (trade), Bilal Coulibaly (draft) and Tristan Vukcevic (draft)

Who to watch: Michael Winger

At his introductory news conference new team president Michael Winger gave a preview of what the offseason could look like.

"Full authority to reset the team, if that's what we decide to do,'' Winger said. "We just haven't sat down and figured it out yet.''

Five transactions later, Winger and his front office have indeed reset the roster, but the front office still has work to do this offseason.

It starts with the free agency of Kyle Kuzma and determining if the forward fits with the retooling of the roster. If not, is there a sign-and-trade opportunity that would gain the Wizards draft compensation?

Next is a guard-heavy roster that features Poole, Jones, Coulibaly, Shamet, Monte Morris, Delon Wright and Corey Kispert. It is hard to see the Wizards starting training camp with all seven players on the roster.

What else to watch:

Balancing the roster: 16 players under contract

Available exceptions: $12.4 million midlevel, $4.5 million biannual, trade ($12.4 million, $5.4 million , $2.7 million, $1.6 million) and veteran minimum

Below the luxury tax: $43 million

Key dates:

Oct. 23: The deadline to extend the contract of Deni Avdija

Oct. 23: The last day to exercise the third-year team option for Johnny Davis and fourth-year team option for Kispert

Projected Depth Chart
PG SG SF PF C
T. Jones J. Poole D. Avdija D. Gallinari D. Gafford
M. Morris B. Coulibaly C. Kispert A. Gill M. Muscala
D. Wright L. Shamet J. Davis P. Baldwin
R. Rollins X. Cooks
Q. Jackson2

Other: Tristan Vukcevic (C/PF)
2: Two-Way
Players under contract: 16

Two-way players: 1

Team needs:

Frontcourt depth

Extension eligible: Kuzma (through June 30 and next season if player option is exercised), Morris and Avdija (rookie)

Free agent status:

Taj Gibson | Non-Bird

Kyle Kuzma | Player | Bird

Kendrick Nunn | Early Bird

Jay Huff | Restricted | Non-Bird


Bird rights explainer
Bird rights

A team can exceed the cap to sign a free agent who has played three consecutive seasons with his current team. Bird rights transfer to a new team in a trade.

Early Bird rights

Teams can exceed the cap to sign a player who has spent two consecutive seasons with a team (without being waived, carries over in a trade), but they are restricted to 175% of his previous salary or 105% of the average player salary. A team can exceed either limit with available cap space. A contract signed using the early Bird exception must be for a minimum of two years, not including options. It cannot exceed four years.

Non-Bird rights

A free agent who has played one season with a team can sign for 120% of his previous contract or 120% of the minimum salary exception. Teams can exceed either limit but only with cap space or an exception.

Restricted free agent

A free agent either coming off his first-round rookie contract or who has signed a three-year contract and has three or fewer years of service can be given a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent. In that case, his current team would have the right to match any offer. If the player is coming off a one-year or two-year deal, the maximum salary in the first year on an offer sheet from another team cannot exceed the full midlevel.

NOTE: A first-round pick who had his third-year or fourth-year option in his rookie-scale contract declined cannot be extended a qualifying offer and becomes an unrestricted free agent. His current team is limited to offering a contract with a first-year salary worth up to the value of the declined option.


Johnny Davis?
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#929 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:38 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
80sballboy wrote:ESPN+ Off-season look at your WW
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/37919086/nba-free-agency-2023-priorities-needs-all-30-teams

Washington Wizards

Offseason transactions: Jordan Poole (trade), Tyus Jones (trade), Danilo Gallinari (trade), Mike Muscala (trade), Patrick Baldwin Jr. (trade), Ryan Rollins (trade), Landry Shamet (trade), Bilal Coulibaly (draft) and Tristan Vukcevic (draft)

Who to watch: Michael Winger

At his introductory news conference new team president Michael Winger gave a preview of what the offseason could look like.

"Full authority to reset the team, if that's what we decide to do,'' Winger said. "We just haven't sat down and figured it out yet.''

Five transactions later, Winger and his front office have indeed reset the roster, but the front office still has work to do this offseason.

It starts with the free agency of Kyle Kuzma and determining if the forward fits with the retooling of the roster. If not, is there a sign-and-trade opportunity that would gain the Wizards draft compensation?

Next is a guard-heavy roster that features Poole, Jones, Coulibaly, Shamet, Monte Morris, Delon Wright and Corey Kispert. It is hard to see the Wizards starting training camp with all seven players on the roster.

What else to watch:

Balancing the roster: 16 players under contract

Available exceptions: $12.4 million midlevel, $4.5 million biannual, trade ($12.4 million, $5.4 million , $2.7 million, $1.6 million) and veteran minimum

Below the luxury tax: $43 million

Key dates:

Oct. 23: The deadline to extend the contract of Deni Avdija

Oct. 23: The last day to exercise the third-year team option for Johnny Davis and fourth-year team option for Kispert

Projected Depth Chart
PG SG SF PF C
T. Jones J. Poole D. Avdija D. Gallinari D. Gafford
M. Morris B. Coulibaly C. Kispert A. Gill M. Muscala
D. Wright L. Shamet J. Davis P. Baldwin
R. Rollins X. Cooks
Q. Jackson2

Other: Tristan Vukcevic (C/PF)
2: Two-Way
Players under contract: 16

Two-way players: 1

Team needs:

Frontcourt depth

Extension eligible: Kuzma (through June 30 and next season if player option is exercised), Morris and Avdija (rookie)

Free agent status:

Taj Gibson | Non-Bird

Kyle Kuzma | Player | Bird

Kendrick Nunn | Early Bird

Jay Huff | Restricted | Non-Bird


Bird rights explainer
Bird rights

A team can exceed the cap to sign a free agent who has played three consecutive seasons with his current team. Bird rights transfer to a new team in a trade.

Early Bird rights

Teams can exceed the cap to sign a player who has spent two consecutive seasons with a team (without being waived, carries over in a trade), but they are restricted to 175% of his previous salary or 105% of the average player salary. A team can exceed either limit with available cap space. A contract signed using the early Bird exception must be for a minimum of two years, not including options. It cannot exceed four years.

Non-Bird rights

A free agent who has played one season with a team can sign for 120% of his previous contract or 120% of the minimum salary exception. Teams can exceed either limit but only with cap space or an exception.

Restricted free agent

A free agent either coming off his first-round rookie contract or who has signed a three-year contract and has three or fewer years of service can be given a qualifying offer, making him a restricted free agent. In that case, his current team would have the right to match any offer. If the player is coming off a one-year or two-year deal, the maximum salary in the first year on an offer sheet from another team cannot exceed the full midlevel.

NOTE: A first-round pick who had his third-year or fourth-year option in his rookie-scale contract declined cannot be extended a qualifying offer and becomes an unrestricted free agent. His current team is limited to offering a contract with a first-year salary worth up to the value of the declined option.


Johnny Davis?




Could be something more like this...

G- Coulibaly G- Poole F- Avija F- Baldwin C- Gafford

G- Jones G- Davis F- Kispert F- Vukcevic C- Huff
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#930 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:39 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Here is my Free Agent target for the Wizards...

Moussa Diabate

RFA (Clippers)

Moussa Diabaté is a French professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Clippers of the National Basketball Association, on a two-way contract with the Ontario Clippers of the NBA G League. He played college basketball for the Michigan Wolverines. Diabaté was a consensus five-star recruit and one of the top centers in the 2021 class. - Wikipedia

Position: Center ▪ Shoots: Right

6-11, 210lb (211cm, 95kg)

Born: January 21, 2002 (Age: 21-158d) in Paris, France fr

College: Michigan

High Schools: Florida Preparatory Academy in Melbourne, Florida, DME Academy in Daytona Beach, Florida, IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida

Recruiting Rank: 2021 (11)

Draft: Los Angeles Clippers, 2nd round (13th pick, 43rd overall), 2022 NBA Draft


https://gleague.nba.com/player/1631217/moussa-diabate









Another RFA I would pursue...

Neemias Queta

https://kingsherald.com/season-review/sacramento-kings-season-review-neemias-queta/

The 23-year-old center out of Utah State continues to dominate the G League while he waits for an NBA opportunity. (By Tony Xypteras)

Queta appeared in just 5 games for the King in 2022-23, down from the 15 games he played in his rookie season. And with the Kings climbing out of a 16-year rebuild, NBA minutes for the sake of development no longer exist in Sacramento.

The 23-year-old center out of Utah State had a strong year for the Stockton Kings, though, so we should touch on that. Queta averaged 16.8 points shooting an incredibly efficient 68% from the field, and filled up the rest of his stat sheet with 8.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.9 blocks, and 0.9 steals. Queta was named to the All-NBA G League First Team, NBA G League All-Defensive Team, and finished second in NBA G League MVP voting.

Neemy is a very large man that moves surprisingly well. He can defend the paint better than anyone on the roster right now, so long as he isn't getting into foul trouble. He can rebound. His skill as a passer is high enough that Mike Brown could probably get away with running some of the same sets he's already running through Domantas Sabonis.

The problem is that the Kings have shown no signs of giving him an NBA opportunity, and that makes it difficult to expect much out of him moving forward despite the G League tests he continues to ace.

Queta is heading into restricted free agency this summer, so the Kings can keep him around if they choose to do so. And if Monte McNair decides to re-sign him, and Mike Brown decides to give him a shot, great. Let's see what he can do.

But he's reached the level of G League success where the likely best option for him is to find a rebuilding NBA team that can afford those bumpy developmental minutes the Kings can't. Neemy is an incredibly easy player to root for, and I'd like to see him get an opportunity to show the world what he can do on the biggest stage, for better or worse, here or elsewhere.

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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#931 » by doclinkin » Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:19 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:


Another RFA I would pursue...

Neemias Queta



My guy. I wanted him with a 2nd rd pick the year he came out.
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Post#932 » by TGW » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:20 pm

Mo Bamba is a FA. Maybe take a flier on him. He’s still pretty young.
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Post#933 » by payitforward » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:15 pm

Like doc, I took note of Queta early in his college career -- above all b/c he was blocking a lot of shots as a Freshman.

He played 120 minutes for the Kings as a rookie in '21-22, then only 29 last season.

OTOH, Queta was absolutely dominant in the G League last year. He put up numbers that would make him an all star in the NBA.

He's an absolutely perfect target for the rebuilding Wizards.
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Post#934 » by payitforward » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:18 pm

TGW wrote:Mo Bamba is a FA. Maybe take a flier on him. He’s still pretty young.

I absolutely loved Bamba out of college. Thought he had a shot to be a star. But, if you don't show in 5 years... I don't think so.
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Post#935 » by nate33 » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:45 pm

I recall Queta having concerning biomechanics with the way his knees collapsed when landing. Does anybody know if he has been durable so far?
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#936 » by pcbothwel » Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:43 pm

payitforward wrote:
TGW wrote:Mo Bamba is a FA. Maybe take a flier on him. He’s still pretty young.

I absolutely loved Bamba out of college. Thought he had a shot to be a star. But, if you don't show in 5 years... I don't think so.


I dont see Bamba as an upgrade over Huff TBH.
I'd love to see us sign Huff & Queta as our backup big rotation, knowing that Gafford will play ~25 MPG.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#937 » by dorianwrite » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:41 pm

pcbothwel wrote:
payitforward wrote:
TGW wrote:Mo Bamba is a FA. Maybe take a flier on him. He’s still pretty young.

I absolutely loved Bamba out of college. Thought he had a shot to be a star. But, if you don't show in 5 years... I don't think so.


I dont see Bamba as an upgrade over Huff TBH.
I'd love to see us sign Huff & Queta as our backup big rotation, knowing that Gafford will play ~25 MPG.


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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#938 » by smoothSeph » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:18 pm

Read on Twitter
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Have to think the FO takes a look
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Post#939 » by pcbothwel » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:39 pm

smoothSeph wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=DGOnaRpboY3mE55z7f7PkA

Have to think the FO takes a look


PERFECT fit for us. He's a switchable 4 with a motor and physicality. Really good touch inside.
Limited in many ways, but I'd love to take a flyer.
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Post#940 » by payitforward » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 pm

Seems strange that they would waive him.
Not that he's been good so far -- but he hasn't been terrible either.

The biggest difference between his rookie year & 22-23 was a drop in his offensive rebounding.
Still only 22. Seems like someone will pick him up. Hope so anyway....

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