Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 6, 2023-24

[zoyathedestroya]

This is interesting. Houston's return to respectability could be really quick. Not gonna win a title with that, but it's a better environment for their kids to develop in.

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[hugepatsfan]

This is interesting. Houston's return to respectability could be really quick. Not gonna win a title with that, but it's a better environment for their kids to develop in.

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Not sure where it happened, but fans got this idea that every player on the team needs to be on the same "timeline" and that young players can only develop if the whole team is 20-24 years old. Good vets help your young players grow. You can't develop an entire 10 man rotation of youth at the same time, you need vets. And HOU would be smart to kepe all of the deals at 2 years to create flexibility to move up to better vets when the time calls for really competing. But FVV and Lopez on 2 year deals makes lots of sense for them, even overpaying to keep at 2 years.

We did something similar with Amir Johnson back in the day.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Toppin to IND is interesting.. could be a play to drive Grant's money down but he comes cheaper for a year.

Do you trust Beverley's health and longevity enough to get him and then trade Brogdon?

You give Grant 12 million, Beverley 5.5, jettison Payton, call up Davison, and you can take back up to 9 million in salary for Malcolm.

Any playmaking wings who can get spot minutes at the point?

[zoyathedestroya]

Clarkson about to get extended by Ainge.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I forgot about Amir Johnson. Loved that guy

[Curmudgeon]

Idoka came straight from the Popovich tree. If you won't defend, you won't play, and he's not afraid to get into players faces. It's no wonder that Houston is no longer interested in being Harden's personal fief.

[Hal14]

Jaylen Brown + Brogdon + Pritchard to Milwaukee for Giannis

I'd rather include Rob and keep Brogdon.

We'd be depleted in the backcourt if we moved Brown, pritchard and brogdon, with no guards coming back.

You don't need Giannis, Porzingis, Al and Rob all on the same team. I'd give them Rob - you sell high on Rob. Get value for him while you still can - he's just gonna keep gettin more injuries and his value will get lower and lower.

JB, Pritchard and Rob for Giannis works in the trade machine. Call it in!

[zoyathedestroya]

Grant would have to wait out the initial flurry of signings, per Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports. Nothing else Boston-related in his latest article other than our supposed interest in PatBev yuck.

[Bill Lumbergh]

This is interesting. Houston's return to respectability could be really quick. Not gonna win a title with that, but it's a better environment for their kids to develop in.

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Not sure where it happened, but fans got this idea that every player on the team needs to be on the same "timeline" and that young players can only develop if the whole team is 20-24 years old. Good vets help your young players grow. You can't develop an entire 10 man rotation of youth at the same time, you need vets. And HOU would be smart to kepe all of the deals at 2 years to create flexibility to move up to better vets when the time calls for really competing. But FVV and Lopez on 2 year deals makes lots of sense for them, even overpaying to keep at 2 years.

We did something similar with Amir Johnson back in the day.

Yeah, they tend to develop losing habits without solid vets to teach them the way.

[Hal14]

Toppin to IND is interesting.. could be a play to drive Grant's money down but he comes cheaper for a year.

Do you trust Beverley's health and longevity enough to get him and then trade Brogdon?

You give Grant 12 million, Beverley 5.5, jettison Payton, call up Davison, and you can take back up to 9 million in salary for Malcolm.

Any playmaking wings who can get spot minutes at the point?

Not too many playmaking wings who are available for a price we could pay and would come off the bench here.

Kyle Anderson is the dream, but Minnesota probably ain't moving him, especially since they're losing Prince.

The backup option would be Jae'Sean Tate or Trey Lyles. Lyles is more of a PF/small ball 5 than a wing, though..

All 3 of these guys should be on Brad's radar..

Oh and there's Kenrich Williams too, but it doesn't seem like OKC wants to move him..

[zoyathedestroya]

Go Pacers! Go Rockets! Get all the players that can impact winning teams.

[zoyathedestroya]

Toppin to IND is interesting.. could be a play to drive Grant's money down but he comes cheaper for a year.

Do you trust Beverley's health and longevity enough to get him and then trade Brogdon?

You give Grant 12 million, Beverley 5.5, jettison Payton, call up Davison, and you can take back up to 9 million in salary for Malcolm.

Any playmaking wings who can get spot minutes at the point?

Not too many playmaking wings who are available for a price we could pay and would come off the bench here.

Kyle Anderson is the dream, but Minnesota probably ain't moving him, especially since they're losing Prince.

The backup option would be Jae'Sean Tate or Trey Lyles. Lyles is more of a PF/small ball 5 than a wing, though..

All 3 of these guys should be on Brad's radar..

Oh and there's Kenrich Williams too, but it doesn't seem like OKC wants to move him..

I've always liked Joe Ingles despite him being a liability on defense.

[Larry_Russell]

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With our current lack of projects in the front court it would be a travestly to not land Watford.

[Hal14]

This is interesting. Houston's return to respectability could be really quick. Not gonna win a title with that, but it's a better environment for their kids to develop in.

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Not sure where it happened, but fans got this idea that every player on the team needs to be on the same "timeline" and that young players can only develop if the whole team is 20-24 years old. Good vets help your young players grow. You can't develop an entire 10 man rotation of youth at the same time, you need vets. And HOU would be smart to kepe all of the deals at 2 years to create flexibility to move up to better vets when the time calls for really competing. But FVV and Lopez on 2 year deals makes lots of sense for them, even overpaying to keep at 2 years.

We did something similar with Amir Johnson back in the day.

Yeah but you can get good vets on cheap veteran's minimum deals. Just get guys like Blake Griffin, Jeff Green, Derrick Rose, etc. Guys who can get some minutes a little bit here and there (so you don't just have all 19-24 year old kids out there 100% of the time and get killed every game, good to have some vets on the floor who know how to play the right way. Guys who can provide some leadership to the young guys.

BUT at the same time, guys who are on cheap deals (so there's enough $ left over to give a 2nd contract to your young core pieces) and so you're not paying a vet $40 mil a year who will then expect to play 37 MPG like he did in toronto and stunt the development of the PG you just drafted with the 4th pick (and the PG you just drafted 1st round a year ago)..

[BK_2020]

This is interesting. Houston's return to respectability could be really quick. Not gonna win a title with that, but it's a better environment for their kids to develop in.

Read on Twitter

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Not sure where it happened, but fans got this idea that every player on the team needs to be on the same "timeline" and that young players can only develop if the whole team is 20-24 years old. Good vets help your young players grow. You can't develop an entire 10 man rotation of youth at the same time, you need vets. And HOU would be smart to kepe all of the deals at 2 years to create flexibility to move up to better vets when the time calls for really competing. But FVV and Lopez on 2 year deals makes lots of sense for them, even overpaying to keep at 2 years.

We did something similar with Amir Johnson back in the day.

Yeah but you can get good vets on cheap veteran's minimum deals. Just get guys like Blake Griffin, Jeff Green, Derrick Rose, etc. Guys who can get some minutes a little bit here and there (so you don't just have all 19-24 year old kids out there 100% of the time and get killed every game, good to have some vets on the floor who know how to play the right way. Guys who can provide some leadership to the young guys.

BUT at the same time, guys who are on cheap deals (so there's enough $ left over to give a 2nd contract to your young core pieces) and so you're not paying a vet $40 mil a year who will then expect to play 37 MPG like he did in toronto and stunt the development of the PG you just drafted with the 4th pick (and the PG you just drafted 1st round a year ago)..

They are probably trading KPJ or just cutting him. There's plenty of minutes for everyone.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Hopefully, the Celtics make a trade while there's still a France...

[Celtics_Champs]

Clippers want Brogdon again if Harden doesn’t make it there.

Who could we snag from them?

[watsonthedragon]

So the 125% rule ends at 6pm? Is that correct?

[Larry_Russell]

Toppin to IND is interesting.. could be a play to drive Grant's money down but he comes cheaper for a year.

Do you trust Beverley's health and longevity enough to get him and then trade Brogdon?

You give Grant 12 million, Beverley 5.5, jettison Payton, call up Davison, and you can take back up to 9 million in salary for Malcolm.

Any playmaking wings who can get spot minutes at the point?

Beverly at VET MIN only
Would probably rather pick up Watford than resign Grant @ that money and use MLE on a backup forward like Yuta or Ross or smthing

Trade Payton for a cheap backup Center with potential (Sims for example, or Garuba)


White/Beverly/Davidson
Brown/Brogdon/Walsh
Tatum/TPMLE/Hauser
Porzingas/Horford/Watford
Timelord/Pritchard trade/Kornet

[GoCeltics123]

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Gross.

I mean, this was obvious after Smart was moved