Harden may be coming here?

[og15]

Paul George as much as some Clippers fans give him grief because, well, he's not as good as posters who are better than him (oh, sorry for not being the best player)

He gets grief because of the vast disparity between how much we traded away to acquire him and his actual impact when it matters most. Every Playoff P moment or 7-turnover game just makes the loss of SGA and the picks sting that much more.

Now we're lining up to gut the team once again for an even worse post-prime playoff choker, having learned absolutely nothing from the last time we did that. Not because it gets us any closer to beating Denver or winning titles, but because casuals will buy jerseys since they recognize the name on the back. And superficial stuff like that is all this franchise seems to care about at the end of the day. They're incapable of putting in the hard work to build a real winner. All they want is short-term attention, winning the headlines while other teams win in June.

Why would one give a player grief because of what a team chose to trade for him? Lol

That's not George's fault even one bit.

First, that is the teams fault, second if you wanted to find another party to blame, just to satisfy the itch, it would be Kawhi and his crew who handcuffed the team in terms of the conditions he required for coming.

Blaming George for what the term traded for him is like blaming a player for the position a team drafted them, it makes no sense.

[KL2]

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[mttwlsn16]

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Awesome. I'm personally at the point of totally blow it up or totally go for it, so I hope this is true. Hope they get Harden and re sign Russ.

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[esqtvd]

Instead of draft picks, which Ballmer sorely needs to hang onto, we could add Coffey and /or Boston as sweeteners if Philly wanted them. The deal works either way. Philly is kind of sick of Georges Niang and Coffey might be some useful depth over there. And Boston is the equivalent of a high SRP or even late 1st.

I still think Philly can do better, but if Morey feels some obligation to deal Harden to his first choice LAC, this isn't robbery.

[Captain Ballmer]

I'm on board because Harden is the best pg match the duo could have. If they still can't get the ring with that trio... It destined to fail anyway so no remorse when they blow everything in 2024. I heard most of the cabanas and 3/4 lounges already sold at new arena

[Quake Griffin]

Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Better chance we’re dealing them all away in February than it is they all come together, mature, and bring this franchise it’s first ring.

[MartinToVaught]

Paul George as much as some Clippers fans give him grief because, well, he's not as good as posters who are better than him (oh, sorry for not being the best player)

He gets grief because of the vast disparity between how much we traded away to acquire him and his actual impact when it matters most. Every Playoff P moment or 7-turnover game just makes the loss of SGA and the picks sting that much more.

Now we're lining up to gut the team once again for an even worse post-prime playoff choker, having learned absolutely nothing from the last time we did that. Not because it gets us any closer to beating Denver or winning titles, but because casuals will buy jerseys since they recognize the name on the back. And superficial stuff like that is all this franchise seems to care about at the end of the day. They're incapable of putting in the hard work to build a real winner. All they want is short-term attention, winning the headlines while other teams win in June.

Why would one give a player grief because of what a team chose to trade for him? Lol

That's not George's fault even one bit.

First, that is the teams fault, second if you wanted to find another party to blame, just to satisfy the itch, it would be Kawhi and his crew who handcuffed the team in terms of the conditions he required for coming.

Blaming George for what the term traded for him is like blaming a player for the position a team drafted them, it makes no sense.

Is it PG's fault that Frank got fleeced? Of course not.
Are fans still going to be frustrated every time PG proves he wasn't worth our whole future? Absolutely.

It may not be entirely fair... but on the other hand, if fans didn't have a borderline irrational emotional attachment to their teams, the NBA wouldn't be a big enough business for PG to get paid as much as he does, so there's some nuance that needs to be acknowledged here.

PG does himself no favors by constantly making questionable comments, demanding specific players while not showing up consistently himself, the whole "what I won't do is quit" debacle, etc. He's not the easiest player to root for, which matters even more when you compare him to how Shai's been drama-free and fun to watch.

[Scoundreldays]

Wonder if Harden will get sick of Kawhi and PG always missing games and leave next season. If this happens obviously they need to stay healthy but Harden will leave in a second if things don't go his way.

[NickP]

So Harden wants to come here. Kawhi and PG are on board. Everything seems to be ripe for a Harden to LA trade.
Only thing standing in the way is our inept FO. They will find a way to F it up.

[donemilio21]

If Harden ends up here; he should at least come off the bench. He can chuck as much as he'd like. Play a Lou Williams role.

[MartinToVaught]

So Harden wants to come here. Kawhi and PG are on board. Everything seems to be ripe for a Harden to LA trade.
Only thing standing in the way is our inept FO. They will find a way to F it up.

Trading for Harden at all is F-ing it up. In an ideal world, this trade never happens, but I know better than to expect any outcome besides Frank panicking and giving away every player under 30 and any draft pick we can still trade.

If Harden ends up here; he should at least come off the bench. He can chuck as much as he'd like. Play a Lou Williams role.

Harden won't even play off-ball, let alone off the bench.

[KL2]

Yesterday it was all but a done deal. Today it’s tap the breaks it’s going to be awhile.

I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the Harden basket.

[madmaxmedia]

If we keep kawhi and PG I'm all for it. Give them one more shot to win it all

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I agree 100%, it depends all on the trade package...

https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/breaking-la-clippers-emerge-as-team-to-trade-for-james-harden

Depends on what we have to give, will this make a difference?

If Harden is now actively trying to force his way out and has targeted the Clippers, we are going to get him at a discount. He is still a difference maker but his age and contract situation already had a big impact on his trade value.

No way in hell of course we give up PG, and I sure as hell don't want to package Mann. Norm and contracts would be ideal, Norm has positive value and is basically the centerpiece of this 'better something than nothing' situation for the Sixers. I understand if any lurking Sixers fans object, I would too if I were them.

[madmaxmedia]

Yesterday it was all but a done deal. Today it’s tap the breaks it’s going to be awhile.

I just hope we haven’t put all our eggs in the Harden basket.

Sixers are going to ask for an unrealistic package, we tell them to screw off. Sixers will look around elsewhere, maybe or maybe not there is another situation where Harden is amenable to going. Either way eventually Sixers and Clippers will probably resume contact and then we'll see what the real price could be...

[madmaxmedia]

Instead of draft picks, which Ballmer sorely needs to hang onto, we could add Coffey and /or Boston as sweeteners if Philly wanted them. The deal works either way. Philly is kind of sick of Georges Niang and Coffey might be some useful depth over there. And Boston is the equivalent of a high SRP or even late 1st.

I still think Philly can do better, but if Morey feels some obligation to deal Harden to his first choice LAC, this isn't robbery.

I guess my assessment of Harden's trade value is not as high as yours. TBH I think we really need to hold onto Mann, I know you're not as high on Mann but we would need what he does contribute even more if we add Harden. I'd rather add Coffey and or Boston, or whatever else.

[MartinToVaught]

Sixers are going to ask for an unrealistic package, we tell them to screw off.

I don't trust Frank to do that at all. Not after the disastrous PG and EJ trades. And not with how little he values the actual building blocks of a team. We're going to get fleeced.

[MartinToVaught]

Case in point:

...the Clippers are looking at potential long-term salary savings that would at least call for some form of draft compensation back to the Sixers. Los Angeles has also made starting center Ivica Zubac available in trade talks, sources said, with an idea of retaining veteran big man Mason Plumlee in his stead.
https://sports.yahoo.com/2023-nba-free-agency-should-we-be-preparing-for-james-harden-to-end-up-with-the-clippers-171832820.html

This trade is going to set us back 10+ years. We will have three washed-up stars who barely play and have no trade value anymore, and nothing else. No picks for an eternity, no other players of value. And no championships to justify it. The absolute worst position a team can be in.

[NickP]

How does Frank still manage to be employed?

[ejftw]

It's gonna end up being Mann, Morris, Zu, Amir, rights to Kobe, swap swaps in 25 and 27, top 7 prot 28 frp for Harden, Springer and House.

Zu obviously gets redirected. Maybe Bones or BJ as well

[nickhx2]

gross