Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 6, 2023-24

[Celts17Pride]

We traded the wrong guy

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Probably the Celtics highlight of the day!

[chrisab123]

Michael Grange @michaelgrange
about 5 minutes ago

One agent I spoke with today said as many as 15 deals are already done, league wide. Could be busy at 6:01.

Are 5 of them Brad deals?

Please move Kornets useless ass

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Michael Grange @michaelgrange
about 5 minutes ago

One agent I spoke with today said as many as 15 deals are already done, league wide. Could be busy at 6:01.

Are 5 of them Brad deals?

Please move Kornets useless ass

Well if Boston moves his useless as they're probably just going to get another useless ass in return lol

[Bohemian]

10 min

[165bows]

Oh my lord lol..White and Walsh gonna be quite the duo

Wait ‘til they add Caruso. The monk devil defense.

[165bows]

Ah sucks about Draymond. That pick still going to be in the teens ‘cause old people but still would have been good to see the wheels come off already.

[Celts17Pride]

Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bill Lumbergh]

We traded the wrong guy

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I like it. Looks way better. Way over due.

[Higgs Boston]

The team needs 2 wings, porzingis only will be good as C in the playoffs and last season horford was already bad as starter, 1 wing that is playable as starter SF-PF, via trade or MLE (bates diop or prince at worst) then a backup one.

[Hal14]

2023: nuggets backup PG was Reggie Jackson, who sat on the bench for the entire playoff run. Murray starting PG. Brown and KC were wings.

2022: warriors backup PG was nobody. Poole is a 2, Payton was a 2. Klay is a 2/3

2021: Bucks backup PG was Bryn Forbes, who barely played in the playoffs for them (9th on the team in minutes). Pritchard is just as good as him

2020: the lakers only had 1 PG who got minutes and it was Rondo, who only played 24 MPG in the playoffs

2019: Raptors backup PG was Vanvleet. No other PG got mins for them - just him and Lowry

The NBA has evolved. It's not like the 80's 90's and early 2000's where teams had a PG who ran the show, was the floor general, brought the ball up the floor and got into a PnR or some other set.

Now, in 2023 way more guys can handle the ball. You've got bigger dudes like Paul George, KD, Tatum and Siakam who can handle the ball out on the perimeter, initiate the offense, make slick passes, etc. With all these wings/forwards who can do this stuff (and are pretty much just as quick/mobile as most guards) you can afford to have an extra wing on the floor (and perhaps 1 less guard) like how the C's play JB at the 2 and Tatum at the 3, or how the nuggets play KCP at the 2 and MPJ at the 3 - in both scenarios, the team only has 1 traditional "guard" on the floor.

You've got many teams (like the warriors with Draymond the KIngs with Sabonis, the Nuggets with Jokic, Miami with Bam, celtics with rob and al, sixers with Embiid, etc.) who frequently run offense through their bigs out on the high post, at the elbows, beyond the 3 pt line or from the low post. Since the big is used as a playmaker, there's less of a need to have a traditional PG on the floor with them.

It's the era of positionless basketball.

Lastly, by going with bigger lineups that have only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard) you're able to overwhelm your opponent with size, you can more easily score near the basket, more easily get rebounds, it's harder for your small opponents to shoot over you, easier for you to shoot and see over the top of the defense when facing smaller teams, etc. And since in today's NBA there's way more players who can handle the ball, more players who are playmakers, more wings/forwards who move like guards, more bigs who move like forwards - you can get away with a bigger lineup that has only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard).

[Froob]

God I hope we don’t dump Brogdon

[Celts17Pride]

God I hope we don’t dump Brogdon

It's possible. I can easily see Brogdon getting traded but not dumped.

[The Corey's]

God I hope we don’t dump Brogdon

I'm sure he's gonna love to stick around after getting traded.

[meatball sub]

Gotta move Brogdon. Got enough ball hogs on the team already

[playa-hater]

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[165bows]

2023: nuggets backup PG was Reggie Jackson, who sat on the bench for the entire playoff run. Murray starting PG. Brown and KC were wings.

2022: warriors backup PG was nobody. Poole is a 2, Payton was a 2. Klay is a 2/3

2021: Bucks backup PG was Bryn Forbes, who barely played in the playoffs for them (9th on the team in minutes). Pritchard is just as good as him

2020: the only had 1 PG who got minutes and it was Rondo, who only played 24 MPG in the playoffs

2019: Raptors backup PG was Vanvleet. No other PG got mins for them

The NBA has evolved. It's not like the 80's 90's and early 2000's where teams had a PG who ran the show, was the floor general, brought the ball up the floor and got into a PnR or some other set.

Now, in 2023 way more guys can handle the ball. You've got bigger dudes like Paul George, KD, Tatum and Siakam who can handle the ball out on the perimeter, initiate the offense, make slick passes, etc. With all these wings/forwards who can do this stuff (and are pretty much just as quick/mobile as most guards) you can afford to have an extra wing on the floor (and perhaps 1 less guard) like how the C's play JB at the 2 and Tatum at the 3, or how the nuggets play KCP at the 2 and MPJ at the 3 - in both scenarios, the team only has 1 traditional "guard" on the floor.

You've got many teams (like the warriors with Draymond the KIngs with Sabonis, the Nuggets with Jokic, Miami with Bam, celtics with rob and al, sixers with Embiid, etc.) who frequently run offense through their bigs out on the high post, at the elbows, beyond the 3 pt line or from the low post. Since the big is used as a playmaker, there's less of a need to have a traditional PG on the floor with them.

It's the era of positionless basketball.

Lastly, by going with bigger lineups that have only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard) you're able to overwhelm your opponent with size, you can more easily score near the basket, more easily get rebounds, it's harder for your small opponents to shoot over you, easier for you to shoot and see over the top of the defense when facing smaller teams, etc. And since in today's NBA there's way more players who can handle the ball, more players who are playmakers, more wings/forwards who move like guards, more bigs who move like forwards - you can get away with a bigger lineup that has only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard).

Good point, agree they should just go Carushow for backup combo guard.

[Froob]

God I hope we don’t dump Brogdon

I'm sure he's gonna love to stick around after getting traded.

He’s been on a bunch of teams already. We’d have a hard time finding another good PG right now.

[playa-hater]

4 years and 100 million for Dray Green is stupid.

[bisme37]

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[GotDaSauce]

God I hope we don’t dump Brogdon

Agree!
But you'll always have people in this group that want to give our guys away for a bag of chips and then cry later when the team sucks!