Dame requests a trade.

[zzaj]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade…

…Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

Thinking about it, there’s a piece of me that thinks Lillard knew he was leaving and knew that his teammate Grant wasn’t going to get his big deal (or the win-now leverage) unless he waited until after Grant was signed.

If Cronin figures out that that’s the case, he should send Lillard to Siberia with a suitcase full of speedos.

[Capn'O]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

[The Sebastian Express]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders.

My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

There's a big difference, though, of 'meeting the salary floor' versus '160 million over 5 years.'. Now if that fifth year isn't guaranteed, okay, that's a vastly changed scenario. And no, resigning Grant doesn't make the Blazers contenders even with Dame, but it's a piece.

I doubt we'll ever know the truth, but looks dirty from Dame's end at his moment.

[DusterBuster]

Raptors would give you OG, precious, koloko, dick and pick

Portland would like Dick.

Dick is better than Herro. He's not an ISO chucker. Plays off ball. Makes 27 million less per year and his deal is longer

Portland doesn’t need either player. Portland has its SG with Sharpe.

I just want Dick for the jokes. That’s all, full stop.

Portland isn’t sending Dame to Toronto tho. He’s going to Miami, it’s not a question.

[DusterBuster]

Lowery, Herro, Robinson and picks for Lillard and Nurkic. I suspect that’s the trade.

[Norm2953]

Portland has all summer and into September to find a trade they can accept. Dow Jones on the TB has it right for he advises Portland to just wait until they get the offer they can accept

[DusterBuster]

Portland has all summer and into September to find a trade they can accept. Dow Jones on the TB has it right for he advises Portland to just wait until they get the offer they can accept

Man, anyone thinking Cronin is going to land this plane neatly and not nose dive this trade into the ground is in for a rude awakening.

[m0ng0]

If I was Cronin and thankfully I'm not, I would make a statement saying Dame SITS until he is traded, no practice, no games, NO NOTHING!!! His locker is EMPTY until he is traded for what I feel is fair compensation and I'm willing to have him sit ALL of next year. Hehehe

[DiegoChara]

Raptors would give you OG, precious, koloko, dick and pick

Portland would like Dick.

Dick is better than Herro. He's not an ISO chucker. Plays off ball. Makes 27 million less per year and his deal is longer

Nah. Barnes is the only Toronto piece that makes sense for Portland.

[DusterBuster]

If I was Cronin and thankfully I'm not, I would make a statement saying Dame SITS until he is traded, no practice, no games, NO NOTHING!!! His locker is EMPTY until he is traded for what I feel is fair compensation and I'm willing to have him sit ALL of next year. Hehehe

I’m also thankful you’re not the GM. Any GM willing to do this to a franchises best player ever shouldn’t have a job.

[DiegoChara]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

Grant on this reported contract would require multiple picks to move. He’s not a bad player but he’s a negative value contract without a doubt.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Excuse while I barf and think about 160 million ways this sucks.

[Jsun947]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

Grant on this reported contract would require multiple picks to move. He’s not a bad player but he’s a negative value contract without a doubt.

There's always going to be teams who are trying to improve and need a wing who will trade expiring contracts for a guy like Grant. The only caveat for that is players with significant injury or character issues.

We're more likely to get picks for him, second rounders, a protected first, etc then give up picks to move him.

[DusterBuster]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

Grant on this reported contract would require multiple picks to move. He’s not a bad player but he’s a negative value contract without a doubt.

He’s getting paid, fits the teams needs positionally. As long as he’s willing to be a pro for a couple years, then when he’s got a few less years on his deal, he will be easier to move.

If he doesn’t want to be a part of the rebuild, there’s time to pull out of the contract

[The Sebastian Express]

I'm not questioning Grant's fit as a professional at all, but I do question his fit in helping us bottom out! And taking away shots from the young guys!

ps this just makes me more upset about the Watford stuff yesterday. Sigh.

[m0ng0]

I'm not questioning Grant's fit as a professional at all, but I do question his fit in helping us bottom out! And taking away shots from the young guys!

ps this just makes me more upset about the Watford stuff yesterday. Sigh.

That to me indicates Cronin was blindsided...I could be wrong

[Blazinaway]

I think him waiting until the morning after getting Grant 160 million over five years was **** for him to do. I think then leaking it to the public via Haynes was also **** to do - because of the aforementioned Grant signing.

I'm a big Dame fan. I do think the organization, specifically Olshey, failed him. And I don't mind the trade request in and of itself. But I don't think they give Grant 5/160 without Dame's signoff and so I think it's **** of him to wait until that's in place then publicly request a trade. I've been a bit frustrated by his comments since the end of the season of not wanting to play with 19 year olds, which I did feel did Portland a bit of a disservice since teams knew Portland was desperate - I think I made a comment about this in early June or late May when I gregariously wrote that he needed to stop saying it, even though I got his frustration.

Each of those components separate and by themselves I don't mind. Giving Grant 160/5 is rough to see and I think a bad contract, but I'm happy for Jerami he got paid. Power to him. Dame requesting a trade, I get it. Sad day, but I get it. Dame leaking it to Haynes, we all knew that was coming if it ever happened. Expected and no hard feelings. Combined together? Feels kind of **** by Dame.

Prior to this I was fine with making sure he got to Miami, but with the Grant stuff in place I now hope POrtland finds the best deal possible. I don't have faith in Cronin to get that done, but I will hope.

Thanks for the eleven years, Dame. Disappointed it kind of ended with him helping saddle Portland to Grant for that length of time.

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

Grant on this reported contract would require multiple picks to move. He’s not a bad player but he’s a negative value contract without a doubt.

Just front load it to the max and with an 8-10% cap increase each yr in a couple of years its very tradeable. I don't like it but there will be a salary floor after the first yr or two contracts (involved in Dame trade) settle out and we'll need to meet it. Gotta have a few solid vets with the young guys.

[m0ng0]

If I was Cronin and thankfully I'm not, I would make a statement saying Dame SITS until he is traded, no practice, no games, NO NOTHING!!! His locker is EMPTY until he is traded for what I feel is fair compensation and I'm willing to have him sit ALL of next year. Hehehe

I’m also thankful you’re not the GM. Any GM willing to do this to a franchises best player ever shouldn’t have a job.

it was slightly tongue in cheek... Slightly

[DiegoChara]

I give Dame the benefit of the doubt here in that I think Portland was gonna sign Grant anyway. A few reasons for this.

Teams have to hit the salary floor and Grant is a solid enough player that he can still be moved. So the Blazers had incentives not to let him walk. Also, some teams don't like to go full youth when they rebuild so the young players have role models. Look at the Knicks. Blazers strike me as that sort of org.

But beyond that, simply resigning Grant with Lillard doesn't make the Blazers contenders. My guess is there were other threads out there and both parties waited until those loops were closed before Dame made the request.

The timing and optics are suspect but I don't think anyone did the other party dirty here. It's a clean break. I'm gonna miss watching him play here.

Grant on this reported contract would require multiple picks to move. He’s not a bad player but he’s a negative value contract without a doubt.

There's always going to be teams who are trying to improve and need a wing who will trade expiring contracts for a guy like Grant. The only caveat for that is players with significant injury or character issues.

We're more likely to get picks for him, second rounders, a protected first, etc then give up picks to move him.

Yeah, there’s absolutely no chance of that. Just float it around the trade board and see.

[DusterBuster]

I'm not questioning Grant's fit as a professional at all, but I do question his fit in helping us bottom out! And taking away shots from the young guys!

ps this just makes me more upset about the Watford stuff yesterday. Sigh.

The Watford move is still bafflingly stupid but utterly predictable from a GM who’s in over his head like Crolshey.

Also, I don’t think Grant will be enough of a difference maker to change their fortunes. wasn’t the case in Detroit and don’t see it here here.