2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread III

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Do we think the Magic could get in on Herro as a third team in a Portland/Miami swap?

Do we have anything that would be enticing to Portland?

I’m praying for it. Love his game

[The Effect]

Crazy to me that we went into this off-season with top 5 most cap space and got mo Wagner and 36 to Ingles, while a contender like the Lakers were able to sign guys like Vincent, prince, Hayes, reddish and still re-sign dlo, rui and reaves and still have cap space... How?

..

The Lakers had 8 unrestricted free agents and 3 RFA.

The Magic had 1 unrestricted free agent (Mo Wagner) and team options on three guys (Goga, MCW, Schofield), 2 of which they declined.

If you wanted movement for movement's sake, then flip the script of the Magic having to fill 8 slots and other team poaching those guys, then you'd get a whole bunch of movement.

We might of only had 1 on paper, but thats a bit misleading
Goga really didn't need to be brought back, Gary Harris shouldn't of had his option picked up, bol bol doesn't have a role on this team and likely won't be playing a minute for us next year. Mo could of been upgraded. Isaac being kept is a joke and that 17m could of gone a long way to finding an actual useful player that.... You know.... Will actually suit up for us

Maybe only one ufa, but there was a lot of upgrades that could of been made and WeHam again choice to bring back the 13th best team in the east and only added 2 rookies and old man

Not saying we should of thrown 100m at someone, but no reason we couldn't of been in the running for someone like brown or thrown money at a 1-2y rental of brook Lopez. Really see no benefit of bringing back those guys

[eyriq]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

[The Effect]

On a serious note…

Given Jonathan Isaac’s complete unreliability, who is the backup PF?

Like I know Isaac will have the opportunity, but obviously they can’t be banking on him in that role and the depth at that spot isn’t anything to write home about.

We hoping they cut him and used that money on someone useful but nah, our highest paid player will be a 3rd string at best

Mo will likely be the backup 4, Isaac will get his 6-10mins and next year he will be gone

[RookieStar]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Exactly why i kept saying its only after we "battle test" Paolo and Franz this season should we try to get that other "star" for us to compete with the big boys.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Do we think the Magic could get in on Herro as a third team in a Portland/Miami swap?

Do we have anything that would be enticing to Portland?

Gary Isaac Denver pick ??

[bigdogdylan5]

Do we think Ingles can backup the 4? Would be a little like Paolo lite with being able to run same stuff and play make. Would need some defenders next to him at 3 and 5.

[eyriq]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Exactly why i kept saying its only after we "battle test" Paolo and Franz this season should we try to get that other "star" for us to compete with the big boys.

50% of the cap is going to go to Franz and Paolo. Is there room for a 3rd star? What about Suggs, Black, and Jett? Tough decisions are going to be coming.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Holy **** maybe they’ll actually make tough decisions and not be lazy and just extend for the sake of it.

[RookieStar]

Do we think the Magic could get in on Herro as a third team in a Portland/Miami swap?

Do we have anything that would be enticing to Portland?

Gary Isaac Denver pick ??

If they are in rebuild mode, they might want wcj when they ship out the anchor thag is Nurk... as well as a veteran PG to backup and teach Scoot, sonprobably Fultz?

[RookieStar]

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Exactly why i kept saying its only after we "battle test" Paolo and Franz this season should we try to get that other "star" for us to compete with the big boys.

50% of the cap is going to go to Franz and Paolo. Is there room for a 3rd star? What about Suggs, Black, and Jett? Tough decisions are going to be coming.

We have to ask... is Franz and Paolo eligiblenfor those 200m contracts right away? If so... when is the earliest?

[Skybox]

Who should we move that for? Old Lillard? Overpaid Beal? The right guy hasn’t materialized yet.

Assuming we aren't moving Paolo or Franz, yes and yes. The perfect person will never materialize.

We should be thinking about needs, not people. It’s lazy to evaluate players in a vacuum. There is not a perfect player other than MJ and maybe Kobe, that had no weaknesses…Jokic isn’t a great defender, either is Luka and he’s a whiner, LBJ is old, Anthony Davis is always hurt, Kyrie is…a handful.

Plenty of “negative value” guys helped teams win…MIA is the best example of a patched together unit where the sum is greater than the parts- by a lot! There are roles we need. Herro might be overpaid (have you been watching the deals being thrown around?) but he’s a scoring Guard…that’s what we need

[eyriq]

Its funny but I do believe this run it back scenario was the most popular one during the regular season. FOMO is a real thing peeps

[VFX]

How is Bol getting a roster spot when the roster is already full?

Weltman can’t decide yet even though it’s impossible.



I’m joking. There has to be a trade.

[Fortune Teller]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

I wish I could, but not seeing it right now. This is year 7 for these guys and they've never given any indication that they prioritize winning over coasting.

They just used two lottery picks on guards and then picked up the options on Fultz and Harris, two under-performers who are projected to start ahead of Suggs and Anthony, two more guards on rookie deals fighting for playing time.

They were top 5 in cap space this summer and signed 35-year-old Joe Ingles. And that's it.

They could have freed up another $10 mil in cap space by finally releasing Isaac, a move that any other team in the NBA would have made, and $13 million more by not picking up Harris.

I just don't buy that at some point in the future they are going to flip a switch and make moves to try to build a winning team. I mean did these guys seriously come here with a 10-year plan, and ownership was ok with that? And fans? And the media?

They're not a serious front office. They just aren't.

[mattyBoi]

Cole Anthony will shortly be traded for a future second round pick, which will later be traded on draft night. Book it.

[ucfmay2000]

Please enter Miami and Portland trade talk. Send Code and Chuma for Tyler Herro and his contract.

[Bakomagic]

Man I would love to jump in and get Herro or Simons for helping facilitate the dame trade.

Suggs/Cole
Herro/AB/Jett
Franz/Jingles/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac/Bol
WCjr/Goga/MoW

[The Effect]

Assuming Moritz's 2nd year is a team option, the Magic only have six players with fully guaranteed contracts for 2024-2025 right now.

Banchero: 12.16M
Carter: 11.95M
Suggs: 9.18M
Black: 7.60M
Franz: 7.00M
Howard: 5.27M
TOTAL: 53.16M

The cap is probably going to rise by 10%, so you're talking a cap of roughly $149 to $150M. The Magic will need to spend a LOT next summer.

Unrestricted Free Agents (3): Fultz, Harris, Bitadze
Team Options (2): Ingles, M. Wagner
Restricted Free Agents (2): Anthony, Okeke
Fully Non-Guaranteed Contracts (2): Isaac, Houstan

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Exactly why i kept saying its only after we "battle test" Paolo and Franz this season should we try to get that other "star" for us to compete with the big boys.

The problem is that next year we will likely be signing extensions for Franz and Cole and be preparing for an extension for paolo and won't really have cap space, this was the year to bring in someone before the big contracts start coming in

Not saying we needed to bring in beal or something, but should of brought in SOMEONE good, not just MoW and and a guy on his last leg

[RookieStar]

Holy roster flexibility batman. You can see the vision that WeHam have for this team right here.

Exactly why i kept saying its only after we "battle test" Paolo and Franz this season should we try to get that other "star" for us to compete with the big boys.

The problem is that next year we will likely be signing extensions for Franz and Cole and be preparing for an extension for paolo and won't really have cap space, this was the year to bring in someone before the big contracts start coming in

Not saying we needed to bring in beal or something, but should of brought in SOMEONE good, not just MoW and and a guy on his last leg

I honestly dont think Cole is in any future plans for us. Unless he massively makes a leap. Franz and Cole arent in the same draft class... we still have time before Franz extension.