Troy Brown Jr

[KGdaBom]

The wolves beat reporter has Brown and Milton with team options for year two.
Naw 2/9,
Milton 2/10,
and Brown 2/8

I will take that as solid info.

I would be skeptical about exact cap numbers until the contracts are acutally signed after the moratorium ends.

I've read $8Million guaranteed and Spotrac is usually very good. I hope we do have those options just in case and I hope we don't exercise our right to terminate.

[KGdaBom]

I really like his smooth shooting stroke and quick release.
I feel more comfortable about him repeating his shooting % than I do Milton or NAW.
Going to be a nice compliment to Ant in the draw and kick game.

I've heard he struggled with his shot down the stretch so he was probably over 40% prior to that. His shooting form is very good as you say.

[BlacJacMac]

I really like his smooth shooting stroke and quick release.
I feel more comfortable about him repeating his shooting % than I do Milton or NAW.
Going to be a nice compliment to Ant in the draw and kick game.

I've heard he struggled with his shot down the stretch so he was probably over 40% prior to that. His shooting form is very good as you say.

Literally the opposite. Its not hard to find this stuff.

3 point shooting:

Season .381
Pre ASB: .362
Post ASB: .417

By Month:
Nov: .341
Dec: .381
Jan: .344
Feb: .382
Mar: .419
Apr: .583

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/browntr01/splits/2023

[KGdaBom]

I really like his smooth shooting stroke and quick release.
I feel more comfortable about him repeating his shooting % than I do Milton or NAW.
Going to be a nice compliment to Ant in the draw and kick game.

I've heard he struggled with his shot down the stretch so he was probably over 40% prior to that. His shooting form is very good as you say.

Literally the opposite. Its not hard to find this stuff.

3 point shooting:

Season .381
Pre ASB: .362
Post ASB: .417

By Month:
Nov: .341
Dec: .381
Jan: .344
Feb: .382
Mar: .419
Apr: .583

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/browntr01/splits/2023

Interesting. I didn't research it. It's just what I heard on a YouTube. Lebron missed some games and Troy started for a while right. I heard his shot went downhill and with it his minutes. He barely played in the playoffs.

[BlacJacMac]

I've heard he struggled with his shot down the stretch so he was probably over 40% prior to that. His shooting form is very good as you say.

Literally the opposite. Its not hard to find this stuff.

3 point shooting:

Season .381
Pre ASB: .362
Post ASB: .417

By Month:
Nov: .341
Dec: .381
Jan: .344
Feb: .382
Mar: .419
Apr: .583

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/browntr01/splits/2023

Interesting. I didn't research it. It's just what I heard on a YouTube. Lebron missed some games and Troy started for a while right. I heard his shot went downhill and with it his minutes. He barely played in the playoffs.

Again, if you looked at the link I included, you'd see that March (15 games) was his best month. He played 27 MPG (vs 24 on the season) and he shot the hell out of the ball.

He played less in April, but that was only 5 games and LA was clearly getting their playoff rotation in place. Plus you had LeBron and AD playing close to 40/game in the Playoffs, so there was less time for bench players.

Obviously you don't research. There are 6 totally unnecessary posts in the other thread because you refused to type "Turks and Caicos" into Google...

[KGdaBom]

Literally the opposite. Its not hard to find this stuff.

3 point shooting:

Season .381
Pre ASB: .362
Post ASB: .417

By Month:
Nov: .341
Dec: .381
Jan: .344
Feb: .382
Mar: .419
Apr: .583

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/browntr01/splits/2023

Interesting. I didn't research it. It's just what I heard on a YouTube. Lebron missed some games and Troy started for a while right. I heard his shot went downhill and with it his minutes. He barely played in the playoffs.

Again, if you looked at the link I included, you'd see that March (15 games) was his best month. He played 27 MPG (vs 24 on the season) and he shot the hell out of the ball.

He played less in April, but that was only 5 games and LA was clearly getting their playoff rotation in place. Plus you had LeBron and AD playing close to 40/game in the Playoffs, so there was less time for bench players.

Obviously you don't research. There are 6 totally unnecessary posts in the other thread because you refused to type "Turks and Caicos" into Google...

You are one of the persons I have fought with a bit in the past. I had you on my Foe list, but was reading your posts anyway. I took you off my Foes list an hour or two ago. I said I didn't research it. I wasn't arguing with you in any way shape or form. I saw your chart and accepted it without question. I just relayed what I heard. As for the Turks and Caicos thing I thought it was fun/funny. I like asking questions of my fellow posters here sometimes rather than going into research mode. I enjoyed the map.

[Klomp]

Instead of picking petty fights, keep it to the facts. Like how Brown was 2-15 on 3s in the playoffs, which is probably why he only played 57 seconds in the Denver series. Definition of struggling down the stretch.

[Klomp]

One of my favorite things about his game (and Milton too) is his quick decision-making. Some of these plays are almost SloMo-like.

Watch on YouTube

[Klomp]

Watch on YouTube

[karch34]

Dude looks like he has some high BBIQ. And is young. I’m intrigued.

[Klomp]

A thought…if Michael Porter Jr doesn’t fall to 14 in 2018, I wonder if the Nuggets actually draft Brown. He was the next guy off the board and one of the youngest players in the draft. Fits the Connelly profile, obviously.

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[thinktank]

One of my favorite things about his game (and Milton too) is his quick decision-making. Some of these plays are almost SloMo-like.

Watch on YouTube

He’s pretty smooth, right? I like that he’s a willful passer. Doesn’t hold onto it for hardly any time.

[Klomp]

Went back to look at Hollinger's free agent rankings/valuations. Brown came in 10th among SFs:

10. Troy Brown Jr., 23, L.A. Lakers: $9,580,364
A good sleeper candidate for teams in need of a 3-and-D wing, Brown fared better on the “3” part than in past stops by knocking down a career-best 38.1 percent from distance. That was the biggest weakness keeping Brown from emerging in Washington and Chicago, and as a result he was a rotation regular for the Lakers who started 45 games. Brown isn’t a high-wire athlete and that limits his shot creation ability, but he can handle the ball and make the right play, and defensively he uses quick hands to make up for average feet.

Coming off a minimum deal, Brown will be an unrestricted free agent with no Bird rights, and the Lakers will be in a difficult position to re-sign him given their other priorities and tax situation. Still just 23 years old, he could be a value addition for teams in need of wing help, especially on a multiyear deal for less than the MLE.

https://theathletic.com/4607636/2023/06/14/2023-top-free-agent-small-forwards/

[KGdaBom]

Went back to look at Hollinger's free agent rankings/valuations. Brown came in 10th among SFs:

10. Troy Brown Jr., 23, L.A. Lakers: $9,580,364
A good sleeper candidate for teams in need of a 3-and-D wing, Brown fared better on the “3” part than in past stops by knocking down a career-best 38.1 percent from distance. That was the biggest weakness keeping Brown from emerging in Washington and Chicago, and as a result he was a rotation regular for the Lakers who started 45 games. Brown isn’t a high-wire athlete and that limits his shot creation ability, but he can handle the ball and make the right play, and defensively he uses quick hands to make up for average feet.

Coming off a minimum deal, Brown will be an unrestricted free agent with no Bird rights, and the Lakers will be in a difficult position to re-sign him given their other priorities and tax situation. Still just 23 years old, he could be a value addition for teams in need of wing help, especially on a multiyear deal for less than the MLE.

https://theathletic.com/4607636/2023/06/14/2023-top-free-agent-small-forwards/

We got him for WAY less than the MLE.

[Klomp]

I love seeing the progressive growth in his shot through the years.

In Washington to start his career (142 games), made just 33% of his 3-pointers. Bumped it up to 35% in his 79 games with the Bulls. Last year with the Lakers, shot 38%. Free throws tell a similar story, going from 75% with the Wizards (68% as a rookie) to 78% in Chicago and 87% with the Lakers.

And while he's never been high usage, has had roughly a 2:1 A/TO ratio for his whole career.

[minimus]

I love seeing the progressive growth in his shot through the years.

In Washington to start his career (142 games), made just 33% of his 3-pointers. Bumped it up to 35% in his 79 games with the Bulls. Last year with the Lakers, shot 38%. Free throws tell a similar story, going from 75% with the Wizards (68% as a rookie) to 78% in Chicago and 87% with the Lakers.

And while he's never been high usage, has had roughly a 2:1 A/TO ratio for his whole career.

What I like about Troy Brown, NAW and Milton is the fact that in addition to solid spotup shooting and size they all have x-factor in their games to get to new level:

1) Brown has creativity as passer
2) NAW has PoA defense
3) Milton has PnR game

Now I can totally see how they can be much better than average 4-5mil player. For instance, NAW has showed ability to defend star level ballhandlers AND showed some signs as passer who can involve bigs. Such combination of skills make him a highly compatible role player. It means that we have trio of plug and play players NAW-Brown-Milton all three can dribble, defend, shoot and pass. Finch can now rotate backcourt without sacrificning shooting, defense or size.

[Klomp]

He's really got a good nose for the ball on defense

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[minimus]

Watch on YouTube

[minimus]

I looked LAL top5 lineups and Brown is in four of them.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2023/lineups

Really hope he can be that low profile high quality role player.

[Klomp]

Only 23, Brown is actually the youngest non-rookie on the Lakers despite playing in what is already his fifth season in the league. A former McDonald’s All-American and eventual 15th-overall pick in the 2018 draft, Brown was once seen as the type of prospect a team could build around.

While that level of stardom hasn't yet come to fruition, Brown has instead turned heads this season by carving out an important — and selfless — role through sheerly being malleable. Whatever hole the Lakers need filling on a per possession basis, it’s been Brown who has shown up on the scene with a cement truck.

“We have a few guys who are Swiss army knives,” Ham said. “They play in that two-four position and they’re able to do a little of everything from different areas of the rotation. And Troy, he’s at the top of that list.”

For Brown and his new team, versatility has been the crux of his success this year as rarely do players earning the minimum have the capability to check multiple boxes at once.

Prior to the trade deadline for example, the Lakers were riddled with small guards and struggled mightily to hang against a league that is trending more and more toward size.

As one of the few 6’6” or taller players on the roster, Brown was consequentially thrust into the fire and rotation immediately. His biggest ask from the coaching staff has arguably come on the defensive end as he’s been assigned various matchups ranging from both big and small and on-and-off ball.

Against Golden State on Sunday, Brown was given the lamentable responsibility of chasing the Warriors’ shooters around screens for 48 minutes. But like he has all season, Brown showed up, punched his time card and went to work regardless of the duties.

“He played 41 minutes tonight, but we needed him out there all 41 tonight,” Ham said. “The job he did on Klay, when he got cross-matched on different guys, he earned his weight in gold tonight...He’s been a pleasure to coach this season.”

As his 1,433 minutes can attest (the third most on the team), it’s been evident how much trust Ham and his coaching staff have in Brown’s defense throughout the team’s roller-coaster of a season. And although his overall advanced numbers are not as favorable in terms of impact, Brown has graded out exceptionally well in two specific areas the team sorely needs.

According to the BBall-Index, Brown currently ranks in the 82nd percentile in their site’s “on-ball” defensive metric and in the 84th percentile when it comes to “off-ball chasing.” Two critical elements of any worthwhile defense that Brown has shown to be more than serviceable in both.

“To be honest, I didn’t know I had played that many minutes,” Brown said. “I had no idea. Obviously with the rotations, I thought I was coming out and then going back in, but I wasn’t looking at stat sheets. It’s a blessing, honestly, just to get that opportunity, especially right now playing with time and with us playing for something and being able to be out there with those guys and make big plays. I’m grateful for it.”

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2023/3/7/23626790/ode-troy-brown-jr-lakers-young-master-of-none-analysis-lebron-james-anthony-davis-darvin-ham-nba