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Anyone know why Cam wanted out? From what I understand, he asked to be traded last offseason, after our ECF run. Never heard why though.
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:Anyone know why Cam wanted out? From what I understand, he asked to be traded last offseason, after our ECF run. Never heard why though.
jayu70 wrote:Cam Reddish: 'I feel like I can be a star'
“I feel like I can be a star,” Reddish said in his first comments as a Knick after his new team routed the Hawks at State Farm Arena. “I feel like I could be a legit star. That’s what I’m working to be. It’s pretty simple.” It hasn’t been simple at all for Reddish, who has battled injuries and a glut of wings in Atlanta. He requested a trade before the 2021-22 season started. The No. 10 pick in the 2019 draft has played in 118 career games in his 2½ seasons, averaging 11.1 points on a substandard 38.5 percent shooting. “I think I’m still on track,” Reddish added in an interview with the Knicks’ three traveling beat writers in the arena. “I’ll continue to put the work in. I think I’m still there for sure.”
– via Marc Berman @ New York Post
https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/knicks-cam-reddish-feels-like-he-can-be-a-legit-star-in-ny/
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Before the start of the season, Reddish told The Athletic he was looking to rediscover his “old self,” a reference to how he played in high school when he developed into one of the nation’s top players while acting as more of a playmaker and creator.
Reddish didn’t want to be with the team anymore. He requested out several months ago, sources say, and most players knew he didn’t want to be there, which led to awkwardness inside the locker room.
The Hawks were going to trade Reddish as soon as a team met their asking price, and the Knicks were that team.Re: Cam Reddish Traded to NY Knickerbockers
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:Anyone know why Cam wanted out? From what I understand, he asked to be traded last offseason, after our ECF run. Never heard why though.
Added to what Jamaaliver said, there were rumors about Schlenk not being on good terms with his agent at the end of last season, but I don't remember if it was his main agent or one that was replacing him for a moment.
So what's in the head of Reddish may have come from his agent too...
NOTE: Friday game Vs PHX, Knicks were +14pts Vs PHX during 34min, but were -15pts during the 14min they played Reddish (worst +/- of the team, in 14min)
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Yeah, but the crazy thing is that the Hawks gave him every opportunity. He got a lot of minutes every year. Looks like it's just a case of him thinking he's something the Hawks didn't think he was. I guess he thought he should start in front of Trae
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Can Reddish will miss the remainder of the season after dislocating his shoulder. The recovery time is expected to be six weeks.
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ESPNKnicks, Pistons Talked NY Moving Up in Draft; Cam Reddish Discussed
The New York Knicks are looking to make some upgrades this summer following a disappointing 2021-22 season, and they might have their eyes on one of the top prospects in the 2022 NBA draft class.
The Knicks have had discussions with the Detroit Pistons about a trade for the No. 5 pick in this year's draft, according to SNY's Ian Begley, and Cam Reddish's name has been included in those conversations.
...[Reddish] can still be an effective depth piece for any team as he averaged 11.1 points, 3.4 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 26.3 minutes per game across two and a half seasons with the Hawks.
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The Post reported soon after the trade with Atlanta that Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau was against the deal as he didn’t see Reddish as an upgrade to the current rotation.
According to an NBA source, Reddish, too, was leery of the trade to the Knicks because he also saw a logjam at the wing, including his former Duke teammate, RJ Barrett, being the man there. Reddish said in his opening remarks he still feels he could be “a star” and most scouts think he’s more athletic than Barrett.
“The Knicks didn’t have a plan for him,” the NBA source said. “They traded for him without one and still don’t have one. He would like a bigger opportunity somewhere.”
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jayu70 wrote:?s=20&t=pHe6oT7E9yXeXvN6OP3kEwThe Post reported soon after the trade with Atlanta that Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau was against the deal as he didn’t see Reddish as an upgrade to the current rotation.
According to an NBA source, Reddish, too, was leery of the trade to the Knicks because he also saw a logjam at the wing, including his former Duke teammate, RJ Barrett, being the man there. Reddish said in his opening remarks he still feels he could be “a star” and most scouts think he’s more athletic than Barrett.
“The Knicks didn’t have a plan for him,” the NBA source said. “They traded for him without one and still don’t have one. He would like a bigger opportunity somewhere.”
Maybe they should put him in the G league. He might be able to get off the bench
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Not trusting these sources, it's football season and they make up ish... He answered someone, "when I do that"... I wondered why he's trending.
Where the offseason has more buzz happens.
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Cam wanted to be a Knick, so I don't believe he wants out, unless he was involved in some of the Mitchell discussions with Utah. Getting traded multiple tikes is never often a good thing for a young player.
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HMFFL wrote:Cam wanted to be a Knick, so I don't believe he wants out, unless he was involved in some of the Mitchell discussions with Utah. Getting traded multiple tikes is never often a good thing for a young player.
Seems like the kid is being given some terrible advice by parents and/or advisors. Instead of taking this time to polish his game and just learn to be an effective NBA role player, dude wants to be given a green light to go out and dominate the ball for all 48 minutes of a game.
He isn't that caliber of player and this isn't AAU. If he wanted to prove himself as a star, he should have stayed in college on a team that would have featured him for 4 years.
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I don't think that's true.HMFFL wrote:Cam wanted to be a Knick, so I don't believe he wants out, unless he was involved in some of the Mitchell discussions with Utah. Getting traded multiple tikes is never often a good thing for a young player.
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I've never seen any reports that Cam specifically wanted to be a Knick. All we know is he wanted to be traded from the Hawks and Travis traded him to the team that offered a 1st rounder for him.
He wanted more playing time from.the Hawks and got less with the Knicks.
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Bleacher ReportThe Most Regrettable NBA Trades of the Last 3 Seasons
Knicks Give Up a 1st-round Pick to Not Play Cam Reddish
Trade Details: Atlanta Hawks trade Cam Reddish, Solomon Hill and a 2025 second-round pick (via Brooklyn Nets) to the New York Knicks for 2022 first-round pick (top-18-protected via Charlotte Hornets) and Kevin Knox
This trade didn't seem that bad at the time, as Reddish started off his third season in Atlanta by averaging 11.9 points, 2.5 rebounds and 1.0 steals and shooting 37.9 percent from three in just 23.4 minutes a night. He was mostly a reserve, as the No. 10 overall pick in the 2019 draft just couldn't carve out a starting job on a Hawks team featuring plenty of wings.
Going to New York represented a chance at greater playing time, an opportunity for the then-22-year-old to flash his massive two-way potential next to former college teammate RJ Barrett.
Head coach Tom Thibodeau didn't get the memo, however, as Reddish saw his playing time slashed to just 14.3 minutes per game. His stats plummeted to just 6.1 points, 1.4 rebounds and 0.8 steals, with an inconsistent role causing his three-point accuracy to dip to 25.8 percent. Veteran forward Evan Fournier continued to start over Reddish, despite making the Knicks 3.8 points per 100 possessions worse when he was on the floor (30th percentile, per Cleaning the Glass).
The Knicks could have used that extra first-rounder in a trade offer to acquire a certain shooting guard from the Utah Jazz, one they ultimately whiffed on.
Atlanta, on the other hand, only had to send two of its own first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs in a deal for Dejounte Murray, including the pick acquired from the Knicks for Reddish as part of the trade. San Antonio now owns the selection, one that's top-16-protected in 2023, top-14-protected in 2024 and 2025 or will at least turn into two second-round selections in 2026 and 2027.
The Knicks could still save face if they move (or at least bench) Fournier and open up a larger role for Reddish. As is, giving up a first-round pick for a part-time rotation player about to enter free agency next summer was a huge mistake.
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At this point, Cam should do what PJ Tucker or Bruce Bowen did. Go overseas, ball out for a year or two, then come back as a hustle 3D guy.
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Klutch finally got Cam Reddish to the Lakers.
What's the likelihood he actually gets to make an impact on a team looking to win another title?
What's the likelihood he actually gets to make an impact on a team looking to win another title?
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Jamaaliver wrote:Klutch finally got Cam Reddish to the Lakers.
What's the likelihood he actually gets to make an impact on a team looking to win another title?
Hopefully he understands he has to play a role now. Rui learned that in LA as did Malik Monk. Hopefully Cam does as well. Cam didn't look bad when he was playing with Dame. Once Dame left, Cam looked horrendous in Portland
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Lakers FansidedLA preview: Does Reddish still have Paul George-like potential?
As the 10th pick in the 2019 NBA Draft, now-Los Angeles Lakers forward Cam Reddish seemed to be the prototypical wing in the modern NBA. Standing 6’8″ with a rangy wingspan, his physical gifts were unquestionable.
Even though he may not have lived up to expectations during his lone season at Duke, his potential was enough to convince the Atlanta Hawks to select him in the lottery. The problem with that, unfortunately, was that they had previously drafted DeAndre Hunter earlier in that same lottery, a player whose skillset was comparable to that of Reddish’s.
Reddish found himself buried behind Hunter on the depth chart for the entirety of his duration in Atlanta. It was clear that the organization favored Hunter over Reddish in terms of future plans, and that was confirmed when they elected to extend Hunter but not Reddish. He showed flashes on both ends of the floor at times, but his time with the Hawks was largely shaky and riddled with inconsistency. So, Atlanta’s front office made the decision to send Reddish to the Knicks in early 2022 prior to the trade deadline.
Reddish’s time in New York was tumultuous, as he was just never quite able to fit in properly to Tom Thibodeau’s system. Similar to his time in Atlanta, there were times that he looked the part of a potential future star as a Knick. But those times were few and far between.
This was a huge break for the Lakers organization. Taking a flyer on the 23-year-old has almost no downside but a major upside. Obtaining his services for a minimum deal could quite feasibly turn out to be the home run signing of the summer across the entire NBA.
His slender build combined with his smooth movements make Paul George an easy comparison. And while PG-13 was much further along in his pursuit of superstardom following his fourth NBA season, Cam Reddish still has time. Now, he will be surrounded by nothing but high-quality NBA players, and led by arguably the greatest basketball player of all time in LeBron James. LeBron’s tutelage should work wonders in Reddish’s development. We already witnessed what appeared to be solid steps forward in Rui Hachimura’s career after coming over last season.
So for a minimum contract, the Lakers have nothing to lose in this scenario. On the opposite side of the spectrum, Reddish has everything to gain. While Lonnie Walker IV may not have received a pay increase from the Brooklyn Nets this summer, simply suiting up for the purple and gold provided a major boost to his career.
But where exactly does he fit in with the Los Angeles Lakers? The roster already has its superstars in place with LeBron and AD. Beyond them, it would seem that Austin Reaves, D’Angelo Russell, Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt and Rui Hachimura all have rotation spots all but locked in. This would essentially leave Reddish in a 1v1 showdown with Max Christie, and this would appear to be one of the bigger battles to watch out for in training camp. If Reddish can find a rhythm from beyond the arc in training camp and display enough positional malleability in the preseason, he could very easily come out on top.
However, the Lakers are extremely high on Christie, and Reddish will have his work cut out for him when it comes to earning minutes over him. At this point in time, Christie would seem to have a leg up in the race.
As the season goes on, it will be interesting to see if/how Reddish evolves as an NBA player. He has played alongside a few great players thus far in his career, but never any men of the same magnitude as LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
Playing alongside two of the greats will be a great opportunity for Cam Reddish to greatly increase his stock across the league. Whether or not this is his lone season in LA is yet to be seen, and that will depend solely on how well he performs individually and gels with his teammates.
Lakers fans have a lot of reasons to smile for the 2023-2024 season, and Cam Reddish should 100% be one of those reasons.
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Jamaaliver wrote::roll:Lakers FansidedReddish found himself buried behind Hunter on the depth chart for the entirety of his duration in Atlanta. It was clear that the organization favored Hunter over Reddish in terms of future plans, and that was confirmed when they elected to extend Hunter but not Reddish. He showed flashes on both ends of the floor at times, but his time with the Hawks was largely shaky and riddled with inconsistency. So, Atlanta’s front office made the decision to send Reddish to the Knicks in early 2022 prior to the trade deadline.
How can they get this so wrong??
1. Reddish requested a trade
2. Reddish was traded prior to Hunter's extension









