Miami Heat Off season 6.0- its DAME TIME in 305

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[MettaWorldPanda]

BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

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lmao if POR had an offer of 5 firsts then would be over already. Barry is crazy.

[inhabitMiami]

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5 firsts should be enough for those dickheads up in Portland.

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lmao if POR had an offer of 5 firsts then would be over already. Barry is crazy.

You never close a deal before you check every piece. None of these 3 teams have any reason to be in any sort of rush.

[MorbidHEAT]

The overwhelming sensation I’m getting from everything I’m reading is no Dame to Miami.

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I like this. Getting a good third team to facilitate is key to finalizing this deal. Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball so definitely something to look out for.

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BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball for what it’s worth.

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I’m obviously biased as a lifetime Blazers fan but I want to see Dame win a ring in a Heat uniform. He’s earned it

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Maxey stays overrated. He can’t create at all when he’s not playing off a defense tilted towards Embiid. Great shooter tho and very fast. PG size with SG skillset. Negative on defense. Redundant with Portland’s young core

Have you seen maxey games? Almost every times Miami plays 76ers. Maxey almost always outperformed Tyler herro.

If you wanted to go off statistics numbers: in each of these three games Miami plays 76ers last season:

Tyler herro scores 24points on 7/17 then 11 points on 4/15 then 8 points on 3/13 in these 3 games

Maxey scores 27 on 10/17 then 23 on 8/16 but did not play first game vs Heat

Maxey played less than 30 minutes in each of these games to get these points and Tyler played more than 30 minutes in each of these games to gets his points while this is not the best statistical analysis of a player but this indicates that maxey can produce more points in a such short window than Tyler. I assume we agreed that Miami was a better defensive team than 76ers when they were playing against each others last season? No? If so, Why couldn’t Miami stopped maxey from getting that many points? It’s because maxey is that good.

My understanding is that 76ers aren’t willing to included maxey in the trade for dame, I think 76ers are making the right moves by keeping maxey off the limit because he’s only 22 years old and on cheap contract and due for a bigger contract next summer.

I’ve seen all of Maxeys games against Miami and most of his playoff games. Read the actual flow of the game rather than just seeing Maxey making shots, he FEASTs off open lanes created on the weak side after Embiid (and even Harden) draw the defense. It’s clockwork. When he’s onball he can’t create his offense.

Well, that’s the definition of effective offense plays. He used tools available on the offense to breakdown defenses to produce a point even if he can’t create his offense on ball. Is it your argument that if Herro was on 76ers, he would’ve achieved a better effective offense outcomes given that Harden and Embid draw the defense?

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all I need to know, is that Pat didnt lowball, and he negotiated in good faith and gave our best offer. If portland still doesnt give us dame, its not our fault, and **** the blazers.

Pretty much this. I’d rather give Portland our best non-Bam/Jimmy offer in exchange for them getting Dame to us in good faith than try to fleece them by forcing them to eat a poo poo platter of Duncan/Herro and 2 picks.

Hopefully they’ve got a good third team lined up that likes Herro enough to give a few picks to Portland.

I'm usually against this tactic but if Lillard said Miami or I'm sitting out games Riley shouldn't throw everything in. Portland has Lillard, he's stayed a good soldier all these years and all he wants to do is compete and the FO has decided to go in another direction which may be something different then he was told to get him to stay so loyal all these years. I do believe Portland should get a good package for Lillard but this isn't a situation where he's on the auction block because he's not wanting to go just elsewhere, he wants to compete like he's done for the franchise for over a decade.

He was having his best year and Portland had him sit the final 10 games of the season so they could tank and he did that without much issue.

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BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball for what it’s worth.

That’s actually great to know. We also have a relationship with Marks so this should all get worked out soon. Haggling for picks right now

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FIVE 1sts!!!

Kevin Durant only required 4!

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BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Seriously, the NBA contract landscape has changed. This new CBA and contracts being given out, herro's contract is normal now.

For comparison, Cameron Johnson on the Nets, he's set to earn 27m next year, exact amount as Herro. But he's older (27) and has way less upside than Herro

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Brooklyn wants picks for taking on Herro?

Not gonna fly. Big Daddy Cronin gets all the picks. Every single one of them.

They’re gonna call me the Pick Prick when this is over.

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BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball for what it’s worth.

So why didnt they trade KD here?

[inhabitMiami]

BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball for what it’s worth.

So why didnt they trade KD here?

Because KD gave them options?

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all I need to know, is that Pat didnt lowball, and he negotiated in good faith and gave our best offer. If portland still doesnt give us dame, its not our fault, and **** the blazers.

Pretty much this. I’d rather give Portland our best non-Bam/Jimmy offer in exchange for them getting Dame to us in good faith than try to fleece them by forcing them to eat a poo poo platter of Duncan/Herro and 2 picks.

Hopefully they’ve got a good third team lined up that likes Herro enough to give a few picks to Portland.

I'm usually against this tactic but if Lillard said Miami or I'm sitting out games Riley shouldn't throw everything in. Portland has Lillard, he's stayed a good soldier all these years and all he wants to do is compete and the FO has decided to go in another direction which may be something different then he was told to get him to stay so loyal all these years. I do believe Portland should get a good package for Lillard but this isn't a situation where he's on the auction block because he's not wanting to go just elsewhere, he wants to compete like he's done for the franchise for over a decade.

He was having his best year and Portland had him sit the final 10 games of the season so they could tank and he did that without much issue.

bruh, that's not it.

If we try to get cute... then we put Dame in a bad position. Portland feels it's not enough and plays hardball. Now the HEAT have forced Dame to keep "fighting the PR battle", threaten to sit out (?!?!) or something.

No, enough. Dame did his job.

Get the deal done.

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BK should have interest. Herro is a fantastic fit for them that they are probably gonna end up getting at a fair price

Apparently Micky and the Nets owner are great off court friends outside of basketball for what it’s worth.

So why didnt they trade KD here?

Because KD didn't pound the table to be here like he did Phoenix.

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Pretty much this. I’d rather give Portland our best non-Bam/Jimmy offer in exchange for them getting Dame to us in good faith than try to fleece them by forcing them to eat a poo poo platter of Duncan/Herro and 2 picks.

Hopefully they’ve got a good third team lined up that likes Herro enough to give a few picks to Portland.

I'm usually against this tactic but if Lillard said Miami or I'm sitting out games Riley shouldn't throw everything in. Portland has Lillard, he's stayed a good soldier all these years and all he wants to do is compete and the FO has decided to go in another direction which may be something different then he was told to get him to stay so loyal all these years. I do believe Portland should get a good package for Lillard but this isn't a situation where he's on the auction block because he's not wanting to go just elsewhere, he wants to compete like he's done for the franchise for over a decade.

He was having his best year and Portland had him sit the final 10 games of the season so they could tank and he did that without much issue.

bruh, that's not it.

If we try to get cute... then we put Dame in a bad position. Portland feels it's not enough and plays hardball. Now the HEAT have forced Dame to keep "fighting the PR battle", threaten to sit out (?!?!) or something.

No, enough. Dame did his job.

Get the deal done.

If Lillard is willing to sit wherever he goes if it's not Miami, nah, you give a solid package, you don't throw everything in. This could be the 2nd best leverage a team has, second only to a NTC.

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exactly, maxes stays overrated.

If you play for the celtics or sixers or lakers, you get all the praise

if you play for miami, you're a fluke and scrub

That’s not true. Some of former role players for the Miami Heat were the product of the Miami Heat system to fit a certain role just like how Spurs does it to makes their role players looks good and it’s difficult to put a stock value in that. For example patty mills was great in spurs but horrible on Nets.

Butler and Bam are the only players that aren’t the product of the system because they can work outside of the system and gives the same consistency. Teams known that these players will be as good as they were playing in miami or better. We certainly can’t say the same for Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro, Max Strus, and Gabe Vincent and etc. if you follow some former Heat players, most of them fallen off the shelf and fade into oblivion. I bet teams suspects Miami Heat were milking Tyler herro stock values by letting him jack up unnecessarily shots to makes him looks like a star. Do you noticed coach spo don’t take tyler herro out if he took bad shots but somehow if Lowry or Strus or Kevin love took bad shots, he will substitutes them faster than you blink.

that nonsense. Systems don't make people hit their shots.

Sometimes a player fits better into one system than another, yes, but they are still good players.

Yes, it does. System can makes you be more disciplined. If you don’t make your shots, you will be on the bench for the rest of the year except teams doesn’t know that your systems are more discipline than theirs. For example, don’t be surprised if a team have such system where a 3 point shooter must spend 3 hours in a gym shooting 3, 4 times a week.