Miles High: The Miles Bridges Thread

[JMAC3]

I am going to hold off full judgement until I see more details on what was offered and what Miles/Klutch were seeking.

If we were offering 2/30 or 3/45. Then I completely get him wanting to just bet on himself and take the QO.

If we were offering 20+ million per year though and he wanted 25-30 million then yeah him and his agent were probably dreaming. Especially with no fa money out in the market.

[JMAC3]

Miles is set to have a 15 million cap hold next offseason- we don't have matching rights, but we will still have the ability to exceed the salary cap and pay him whatever we want. So if he has a great year, takes us to the playoffs and we deem him worthy of a 4/100 we can make that happen regardless of whatever else we do this summer or next.

If he plays great, a team outside of Charlotte will have to offer him a contract via pure cap space to hit that 25 million per year he will likely be seeking. And as we saw this summer there is a chance that it simply isn't really widely available.

I don't think the bridge is completely burned yet, we both have a year to see if this is still something both sides want longterm. I can see how this can ultimately be a win for both sides. We are still paying this man 8 million per year, he could be getting much worse than that after how his last 12 months have gone.

[JMAC3]

Hopefully he sees this as a way to sell us that he is worth the money he was seeking and not a wasted year to collect his check and leave at the first chance he gets. There is still a very high likelihood we still have the most money to offer him again next summer.

If I were him, I would want to cash in big next summer. Not leave the Hornets and potentially risk signing for another below market deal just to get to a new team.

[JMAC3]

Also, I think this is better than the worst case scenario. At the very least he is on the team this year, that is a start. He could have signed elsewhere, or we could have refused to sign and him lost him for nothing.

Now we are looking at worst case we trade him midseason for something, or we lose him next year for nothing. But we at least got a season of him at below market value.

[SWedd523]

Also interesting to me: retaining Miles and also potentially having significant capspace (should PJ deflect) was not a scenario I foresaw this offseason.

Little late for that

[luciano-davidwesley]

Also, I think this is better than the worst case scenario. At the very least he is on the team this year, that is a start. He could have signed elsewhere, or we could have refused to sign and him lost him for nothing.

Now we are looking at worst case we trade him midseason for something, or we lose him next year for nothing. But we at least got a season of him at below market value.

He can veto any trade he wants now.

Personally I hope we sit him all season and start leaking one by one all his previous transgressions to the media that his wife alluded to us hiding under the rug.

He and Rich Paul want to play games, we should drop the nuke on him.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Us trying to rationalise this as a win for the Hornets...

[JMAC3]

Also, I think this is better than the worst case scenario. At the very least he is on the team this year, that is a start. He could have signed elsewhere, or we could have refused to sign and him lost him for nothing.

Now we are looking at worst case we trade him midseason for something, or we lose him next year for nothing. But we at least got a season of him at below market value.

He can veto any trade he wants now.

Personally I hope we sit him all season and start leaking one by one all his previous transgressions to the media that his wife alluded to us throwing under the rug.

He and Rich Paul want to play games, we should drop the nuke on him.

Yeah, maybe he is ready to be vindictive and screw us over, but I doubt it.
1. If we have a trade for him, I can't really see why he would block it. It won't affect his FA next summer regardless.
2. If he plays awesome, we offer him the best deal. I doubt he will treat us like an ex and simply refuse a good deal. If he approaches this as a grown up both sides should be good.

The rumor is we both were far away. Doesn't sound like we simply didn't want him back or that he didn't want to be back all together. Just that both sides couldn't agree on a number. It happens. It is the reason the QO exists.

[SWedd523]

Also, I think this is better than the worst case scenario. At the very least he is on the team this year, that is a start. He could have signed elsewhere, or we could have refused to sign and him lost him for nothing.

Now we are looking at worst case we trade him midseason for something, or we lose him next year for nothing. But we at least got a season of him at below market value.

He can veto any trade he wants now.

Personally I hope we sit him all season and start leaking one by one all his previous transgressions to the media that his wife alluded to us throwing under the rug.

He and Rich Paul want to play games, we should drop the nuke on him.

Yeah, maybe he is ready to be vindictive and screw us over, but I doubt it.

He spent roughly a year and a half already doing that

[luciano-davidwesley]

Also, I think this is better than the worst case scenario. At the very least he is on the team this year, that is a start. He could have signed elsewhere, or we could have refused to sign and him lost him for nothing.

Now we are looking at worst case we trade him midseason for something, or we lose him next year for nothing. But we at least got a season of him at below market value.

He can veto any trade he wants now.

Personally I hope we sit him all season and start leaking one by one all his previous transgressions to the media that his wife alluded to us throwing under the rug.

He and Rich Paul want to play games, we should drop the nuke on him.

Yeah, maybe he is ready to be vindictive and screw us over, but I doubt it.
1. If we have a trade for him, I can't really see why he would block it. It won't affect his FA next summer regardless.
2. If he plays awesome, we offer him the best deal. I doubt he will treat us like an ex and simply refuse a good deal. If he approaches this as a grown up both sides should be good.

The rumor is we both were far away. Doesn't sound like we simply didn't want him back or that he didn't want to be back all together. Just that both sides couldn't agree on a number. It happens. It is the reason the QO exists.

This is nothing like a normal QO situation. This situation exists due to Miles Bridges actions last offseason. Again a player wants to have his cake, pretend like there are no consequences to his actions and then eat his cake too.

He's firmly in the not worth the trouble pile at this point. In your best case scenario we are playing this guy $30 or $40 million per year for 4 or 5 years next year onwards. He's a liability and I wouldn't trust him now as far as I could kick him.

[JMAC3]

He can veto any trade he wants now.

Personally I hope we sit him all season and start leaking one by one all his previous transgressions to the media that his wife alluded to us throwing under the rug.

He and Rich Paul want to play games, we should drop the nuke on him.

Yeah, maybe he is ready to be vindictive and screw us over, but I doubt it.

He spent roughly a year and a half already doing that

I mean the guy f'ed up. He was suspended. It was bad for him and us.
If the Hornets were only offering him 3/45. Do you just expect him to take it no matter what?
We can all agree that given his play, that would be a massive underpay in this market.
If he plays well on the 8 million QO, he will probably end up making more money than 45 million over the next 3 years.

Him playing on the QO doesn't prevent us from signing him to a big deal next offseason. If it is meant to be it will be.

[JMAC3]

This is nothing like a normal QO situation. This situation exists due to Miles Bridges actions last offseason. Again a player wants to have his cake, pretend like there are no consequences to his actions and then eat his cake too.

He's firmly in the not worth the trouble pile at this point. In your best case scenario we are playing this guy $30 or $40 million per year for 4 or 5 years next year onwards. He's a liability and I wouldn't trust him now as far as I could kick him.

We really don't know what we offered vs what he wanted though. The numbers might come out and we might be like that was a bad offer by Mitch, I would of turned it down too. Or we might have offered a fair deal, but Klutch wanted a massive payday. We don't know. I really don't think it is fair to pass full judgement with half the information right now.

We all wanted to sign Miles for a cheap deal, it didn't happen. To be honest that would have benefited us a lot more than him, so to some degree I get him wanting to capitalize on his years 25-28 as much as possible. The story isn't over though. It could still workout for both sides.

[JMAC3]

If we would have signed him to a 2/30 with a player option in year 2 would there be this much outrage?

This 1 year 8-million-dollar deal is without a doubt better for us then the above.

[luciano-davidwesley]

This is nothing like a normal QO situation. This situation exists due to Miles Bridges actions last offseason. Again a player wants to have his cake, pretend like there are no consequences to his actions and then eat his cake too.

He's firmly in the not worth the trouble pile at this point. In your best case scenario we are playing this guy $30 or $40 million per year for 4 or 5 years next year onwards. He's a liability and I wouldn't trust him now as far as I could kick him.

We really don't know what we offered vs what he wanted though. The numbers might come out and we might be like that was a bad offer by Mitch, I would of turned it down too. Or we might have offered a fair deal, but Klutch wanted a massive payday. We don't know. I really don't think it is fair to pass full judgement with half the information right now.

We all wanted to sign Miles for a cheap deal, it didn't happen. To be honest that would have benefited us a lot more than him, so to some degree I get him wanting to capitalize on his years 25-28 as much as possible. The story isn't over though. It could still workout for both sides.

To think that bridges (pardon the pun) probably haven't been burned by this grandstanding is probably being a little naive. I don't see either party negotiating in as good faith from here on. Miles has really taken this piss out of us and there's probably too much water under the bridge at this stage.

[SWedd523]

Yeah, maybe he is ready to be vindictive and screw us over, but I doubt it.

He spent roughly a year and a half already doing that

I mean the guy f'ed up. He was suspended. It was bad for him and us.
If the Hornets were only offering him 3/45. Do you just expect him to take it no matter what?
We can all agree that given his play, that would be a massive underpay in this market.
If he plays well on the 8 million QO, he will probably end up making more money than 45 million over the next 3 years.

Him playing on the QO doesn't prevent us from signing him to a big deal next offseason. If it is meant to be it will be.

Sticking by him as an organization through his public display of dumbassery shows an investment level beyond simple dollars and cents. They stayed loyal to him and stuck by him, shielded him, ate the negative PR, advocated on his behalf to the league office to reduce his punishment, and tried to keep him around long term.

Miles, in return, took all of that good faith, and hit it with one of his patented left hooks.

Yeah, it's a business. Good for him and Klutch. Hornets lost most of their leverage as a result and will look like fools next year when they get left holding the bags as he moves on to LA or wherever LeBron wants him.

[luciano-davidwesley]

If we would have signed him to a 2/30 with a player option in year 2 would there be this much outrage?

This 1 year 8-million-dollar deal is without a doubt better for us then the above.

It most certainly is not. We could trade him at the deadline with no player veto under your hypothetical scenario.

Also, no way would we have agreed to a player option after one year. That idea is laughable.

Finally, it also would indicate that arrogant midget Rich Paul was able to at least make some compromise. He's clearly incapable of that.

[SWedd523]

If we would have signed him to a 2/30 with a player option in year 2 would there be this much outrage?

This 1 year 8-million-dollar deal is without a doubt better for us then the above.

He's much more tradeable as a 2/30 without the ability to veto trades than a 1/8 with it

[JMAC3]

I guess I don't get why him being able to Veto a deal is so bad.
All 1 year deals in the NBA get a no trade clause FYI not just this one.

Him vetoing a deal would mean he would rather be in Clt then the team we are trading him to. It is not because he wants us to get nothing back for him. I hardly doubt he cares that much to screw us over haha.

[SWedd523]

Or because he views the team he'd be going to as a bad fit and doesn't want to relocate just to move again in FA

[JMAC3]

Or because he views the team he'd be going to as a bad fit and doesn't want to relocate just to move again in FA

You are heading right to worst case scenario. I think you are letting your hate for Rich Paul lead you into a bunch of assumptions about how Miles will act moving forward. All in all, I am sure he is happy to be back in the league, gets to play with Melo still, and still has the ability to capitalize on his salary moving forward. Based on the tweet I posted I think he is at least somewhat happy.

If we sign him next offseason to a 4/100 after being awesome and we end up paying him 108/5 years that is still a win (under 22 aav).