Reassessment time: Your confidence in Morey right now?

[rzzzzz]

I think the plan was to let James test the free-agency waters so he could see there was no real market, then opt-in or take a two year deal. James opting in and requesting a trade is probably not what Morey wanted. I think his plan included James being the starting point guard for the Sixers.

No doubt. But the important thing is that he didn’t offer the 4 year max contract. Personally I think a swap for Paul George is fair, while grooming Maxey. But James did win us two games in the 2nd round. So if we get stuck with him for the rest of the year, maybe Nurse can deploy Embiid and Maxey to win another. If Maxey progresses and we’re stuck with James until he walks, so be it. But I like having a couple of contingencies to be working in the meantime.

[sixers hoops]

-He signed a 38 year old Tucker to a three year deal. Dumb.

-He got hit for tampering to sign Danuel House. Are you kidding me? House is the type of guy you sign after the good players are off the board. He’s not the indispensable priority that you risk tampering. The saddest part is we know House was his plan A because he pursued him before he could even pursue anybody else.

-He admitted in a radio interview, that the Nets really wanted Thybulle in the Ben trade. So he could keep Thybulle, he added one or both first-round picks. I can’t remember if the Thybulle trade off was one or two picks, but he gave up picks to keep Thybulle here, and Thybulle barely played after that.

These moves, specifically including picks to keep Thybulle, were IMO his worst roster moves here, but the worst overall was not firing Glenn after the 2022 Miami meltdown. I never wanted him here and Morey didn't hire him, so firing him after Atlanta would have been preferable, but to watch two consecutive playoff meltdowns and allow him a third was brutal management. It's possible that it was more of an ownership play, but then what's the point of paying Morey all that money?

Honestly, I think it had to be. And Doc has done Morey no favors. Morey adds a picks to keep Thybulle, then Doc stops playing Thybulle. Morey gets House and Doc doesn’t play him. Morey gets McDaniels and says they believe he could be a starter, and Doc doesn’t play him. At least they were on the same page with Tucker, but Morey looks a lot worse when the players he is making moves for aren't even being utilized by the coach. I’m sure they discussed these moves prior and Doc supported the acquisitions, or Morey prob wouldn’t have bothered to get them.

[sixers hoops]

I think the plan was to let James test the free-agency waters so he could see there was no real market, then opt-in or take a two year deal. James opting in and requesting a trade is probably not what Morey wanted. I think his plan included James being the starting point guard for the Sixers.

No doubt. But the important thing is that he didn’t offer the 4 year max contract. Personally I think a swap for Paul George is fair, while grooming Maxey. But James did win us two games in the 2nd round. So if we get stuck with him for the rest of the year, maybe Nurse can deploy Embiid and Maxey to win another. If Maxey progresses and we’re stuck with James until he walks, so be it. But I like having a couple of contingencies to be working in the meantime.

I agree, but I doubt Paul George will be offered.

[sixers hoops]

-He signed a 38 year old Tucker to a three year deal. Dumb.

-He got hit for tampering to sign Danuel House. Are you kidding me? House is the type of guy you sign after the good players are off the board. He’s not the indispensable priority that you risk tampering. The saddest part is we know House was his plan A because he pursued him before he could even pursue anybody else.

-He admitted in a radio interview, that the Nets really wanted Thybulle in the Ben trade. So he could keep Thybulle, he added one or both first-round picks. I can’t remember if the Thybulle trade off was one or two picks, but he gave up picks to keep Thybulle here, and Thybulle barely played after that.

These moves, specifically including picks to keep Thybulle, were IMO his worst roster moves here, but the worst overall was not firing Glenn after the 2022 Miami meltdown. I never wanted him here and Morey didn't hire him, so firing him after Atlanta would have been preferable, but to watch two consecutive playoff meltdowns and allow him a third was brutal management. It's possible that it was more of an ownership play, but then what's the point of paying Morey all that money?

Not taking the Haliburton offer was pretty bad. Not that I would have taken it at the time, but I had the two deals very closely rated. Ultimately, you hope your GM is better at assessing trade offers than the fans, and ultimately doesn’t have you regretting the offer you took.

[youngcrev]

-He signed a 38 year old Tucker to a three year deal. Dumb.

-He got hit for tampering to sign Danuel House. Are you kidding me? House is the type of guy you sign after the good players are off the board. He’s not the indispensable priority that you risk tampering. The saddest part is we know House was his plan A because he pursued him before he could even pursue anybody else.

-He admitted in a radio interview, that the Nets really wanted Thybulle in the Ben trade. So he could keep Thybulle, he added one or both first-round picks. I can’t remember if the Thybulle trade off was one or two picks, but he gave up picks to keep Thybulle here, and Thybulle barely played after that.

These moves, specifically including picks to keep Thybulle, were IMO his worst roster moves here, but the worst overall was not firing Glenn after the 2022 Miami meltdown. I never wanted him here and Morey didn't hire him, so firing him after Atlanta would have been preferable, but to watch two consecutive playoff meltdowns and allow him a third was brutal management. It's possible that it was more of an ownership play, but then what's the point of paying Morey all that money?

Not taking the Haliburton offer was pretty bad. Not that I would have taken it at the time, but I had the two deals very closely rated. Ultimately, you hope your GM is better at assessing trade offers than the fans, and ultimately doesn’t have you regretting the offer you took.

I don't know that there was anything wrong the thought process behind it. Harden gave them a better immediate chance to compete for a championship, and I think that was the priority with Embiid in his prime. Clearly, they didn't win the title, so it didn't work out.

Ultimately he'll be judged based on results, but I think process is what actually determines the ability of a GM.

Also... With hindsight, I don't think the Nets exactly love the return they got right now.

[sixers hoops]

These moves, specifically including picks to keep Thybulle, were IMO his worst roster moves here, but the worst overall was not firing Glenn after the 2022 Miami meltdown. I never wanted him here and Morey didn't hire him, so firing him after Atlanta would have been preferable, but to watch two consecutive playoff meltdowns and allow him a third was brutal management. It's possible that it was more of an ownership play, but then what's the point of paying Morey all that money?

Not taking the Haliburton offer was pretty bad. Not that I would have taken it at the time, but I had the two deals very closely rated. Ultimately, you hope your GM is better at assessing trade offers than the fans, and ultimately doesn’t have you regretting the offer you took.

I don't know that there was anything wrong the thought process behind it. Harden gave them a better immediate chance to compete for a championship, and I think that was the priority with Embiid in his prime. Clearly, they didn't win the title, so it didn't work out.

Ultimately he'll be judged based on results, but I think process is what actually determines the ability of a GM.

Also... With hindsight, I don't think the Nets exactly love the return they got right now.

Yeah. That Ben contract alone should’ve required two picks to dump.

I thought they would have a chance with Harden, but I knew there was a great chance they were going to regret choosing the wrong deal. However, I wanted to see Embiid with a win-now second star, and we got to see that experiment.

[rzzzzz]

I agree, but I doubt Paul George will be offered.

Which is why we’re on pause. Of course the Clippers want the big 3. And keep their best young talent while you’re at it.
George & Harden are damn close in value. Harden was shinier before he got hurt. George is a great team mate when he’s not hurt.

[sixers hoops]

I agree, but I doubt Paul George will be offered.

Which is why we’re on pause. Of course the Clippers want the big 3. And keep their best young talent while you’re at it.
George & Harden are damn close in value. Harden was shinier before he got hurt. George is a great team mate when he’s not hurt.

I don’t disagree at all, but I would be SHOCKED if we ended up with George. I’m not a very good negotiator though, so we will see.

[GoSixersBro]

If I'm the Clippers I'm trying to add to Kawhi and PG. Not replace one of them with washed Harden.

[sixers hoops]

If I'm the Clippers I'm trying to add to Kawhi and PG. Not replace one of them with washed Harden.

Yeah, I think they are only interested in adding Harden without Kawhi or George. Harden looks like a bum against really good teams when his shot is not falling, but he was prob the legit next guy up for the All-Star team, so I see why the Clips would love to add him. I think he would be a good complement to those two, but a neutral move at best to replace one of them. If all three are healthy come playoffs, Kawhi will take the ball and takeover. He isn’t going to watch Harden kill the shot clock and try to get fouled because Harden isn’t as dynamic as he once was.

[mjkvol]

-He signed a 38 year old Tucker to a three year deal. Dumb.

-He got hit for tampering to sign Danuel House. Are you kidding me? House is the type of guy you sign after the good players are off the board. He’s not the indispensable priority that you risk tampering. The saddest part is we know House was his plan A because he pursued him before he could even pursue anybody else.

-He admitted in a radio interview, that the Nets really wanted Thybulle in the Ben trade. So he could keep Thybulle, he added one or both first-round picks. I can’t remember if the Thybulle trade off was one or two picks, but he gave up picks to keep Thybulle here, and Thybulle barely played after that.

These moves, specifically including picks to keep Thybulle, were IMO his worst roster moves here, but the worst overall was not firing Glenn after the 2022 Miami meltdown. I never wanted him here and Morey didn't hire him, so firing him after Atlanta would have been preferable, but to watch two consecutive playoff meltdowns and allow him a third was brutal management. It's possible that it was more of an ownership play, but then what's the point of paying Morey all that money?

Not taking the Haliburton offer was pretty bad. Not that I would have taken it at the time, but I had the two deals very closely rated. Ultimately, you hope your GM is better at assessing trade offers than the fans, and ultimately doesn’t have you regretting the offer you took.

I don't include Harden because while in retrospect it might have been the wrong move, at the time Morey was looking to win now, and Harden offered that while Haliburton didn't. Criticizing it now is the ultimate Monday Morning QBing IMO, as it took an epic meltdown to keep us out of the ECF and potentially the finals last season.

It didn't work, but it was the right trade at the time. Holding on to Thybulle and giving up picks was a huge gaffe, and many of us were saying it at the time.

[JudahMax]

Harden opting in seems like good thing. Unlike Simmons, I’m guessing that Harden would rather play than lose salary. So it gives Nurse some shot at scheming the bearded playboy while Morey waits for an offer better than backbenchers and scraps. Provided he don’t throw Maxey into any deal, I’ll give him a chance to pull off something besides a nostalgia move.

Well, Harden opting in is a great thing, but he asked to be traded, so who knows the likelihood of him playing here. I think it’s possible, but who knows?

I think this gives Morey an opportunity to get something for Harden, and finally add the right pieces to this roster.

When did harden ask to be traded ???

[sixers hoops]

Harden opting in seems like good thing. Unlike Simmons, I’m guessing that Harden would rather play than lose salary. So it gives Nurse some shot at scheming the bearded playboy while Morey waits for an offer better than backbenchers and scraps. Provided he don’t throw Maxey into any deal, I’ll give him a chance to pull off something besides a nostalgia move.

Well, Harden opting in is a great thing, but he asked to be traded, so who knows the likelihood of him playing here. I think it’s possible, but who knows?

I think this gives Morey an opportunity to get something for Harden, and finally add the right pieces to this roster.

When did harden ask to be traded ???

Friday

[76ciology]

I like Morey’s IDGAF calmness during all these. Some average GM would have made some panic moves already.

[LessMorey]

The situation seems terrible from the outside. But I trust that Morey will get us draft capital and an ascending player signed for more than one year to an under-market value contract (Mann or Caruso).

With that being said I'd give his tenure a B- so far. I think he's made some mistakes but he's mostly been solid. Plus, he nailed the Maxey pick.

I wish he proactively traded Simmons the year he got here. I was never a fan of the Simmons/Embiid fit even before Morey's first season as GM.

[sixers hoops]

The situation seems terrible from the outside. But I trust that Morey will get us draft capital and an ascending player signed for more than one year to an under-market value contract (Mann or Caruso).

With that being said I'd give his tenure a B- so far. I think he's made some mistakes but he's mostly been solid. Plus, he nailed the Maxey pick.

I wish he proactively traded Simmons the year he got here. I was never a fan of the Simmons/Embiid fit even before Morey's first season as GM.

The Maxey pick has saved a lot for him. I don’t know Maxey’s ceiling, but a player that caliber with a late first is huge.

[mjkvol]

The situation seems terrible from the outside. But I trust that Morey will get us draft capital and an ascending player signed for more than one year to an under-market value contract (Mann or Caruso).

With that being said I'd give his tenure a B- so far. I think he's made some mistakes but he's mostly been solid. Plus, he nailed the Maxey pick.

I wish he proactively traded Simmons the year he got here. I was never a fan of the Simmons/Embiid fit even before Morey's first season as GM.

Fans want 'something' to happen, and feel if it doesn't that the GM isn't doing his job. I would agree with your Morey grade so far, but will withhold any final pronouncements until summer 2024, unless he makes an idiotic 'all-in' trade now, which is fortunately very unlikely at this point.

[phifans]

The situation seems terrible from the outside. But I trust that Morey will get us draft capital and an ascending player signed for more than one year to an under-market value contract (Mann or Caruso).

With that being said I'd give his tenure a B- so far. I think he's made some mistakes but he's mostly been solid. Plus, he nailed the Maxey pick.

I wish he proactively traded Simmons the year he got here. I was never a fan of the Simmons/Embiid fit even before Morey's first season as GM.

Fans want 'something' to happen, and feel if it doesn't that the GM isn't doing his job. I would agree with your Morey grade so far, but will withhold any final pronouncements until summer 2024, unless he makes an idiotic 'all-in' trade now, which is fortunately very unlikely at this point.

U don't do anything when u are winning apparently we are not in this situation. In fact we are a total mess right now. I'm not saying Morey should make a trade just for sake of it but I think its more like there's nothing he can do to save this awkard situation he's been made so maybe its wise to just hold on to it.

[the_process]

I like Morey’s IDGAF calmness during all these. Some average GM would have made some panic moves already.

What you call "IDGAF calmness", others would call "utter cluelessness".

[M2J]

Morey is a good GM, in terms of wheeling and dealing and figuring out tough situations and relationship building. But the Harden trade instead of other moves where you actually have to give up capital instead of getting more assets shows that he needs an organization,/owner/president capable of overseeing him with a critical eye. Overall, he did fine with that trade in creating this past seasons window for a title. But tampering to get Tucker and House? Over paying them both? Basically getting nothing for Thybulle or McDaniels. This Harden situation currently which will not end well.

I know he didn't come to Philly to not win a ring, but they need to blow this thing up. I can't foresee him salvaging this to a title level. The only hope right now is a new coaching style and Maxey (stand by for in popular opinion).... Maxey who I personally give more credit to Rivers for than Daryl.