Miami Heat Offseason Thread 7.0: 3ammy vs Cronin, Winner Takes Dame!!

[Rapaz]

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This Haynes clown is breaking my balls.

[IceColdCubano]

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1-year rental is very different. I bet Kawhi would have sought out his next point of leverage to control his destination if it wasn't just a 1-year rental. Plus the acquiring team takes on even more risk bc it costs more when the player is under contract for multiple years.

Its kind of different when your on a one year rental, You play out your year and GTFO. Toronto risked it and got a championship out of it and still couldn't retain him after the fact, so winning a championship doesn't even earn you enough kudos to keep a player of his caliber. In this case Lillard still has 4 years left on his contract. If Kawhi had 4 years left on his contract he would be playing out his contract in Toronto or traded elsewhere at his mid point if he pouted enough, Toronto may have repeated or rebuilt around that team.

[CrossOver]

Blazers want picks most likely 2026 and beyond. Any Heat picks or Suns picks in the next few years are essentially early seconds

Correct which is why Miami taking the least "valuable" first from BKN (2025 PHX pick) allows them to throw more picks to POR down the line.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’re getting this done fellas, it sucks to wait because we want every available piece left to fill out the roster but it’s going to happen! Would’ve loved to get in a room with Pat Bev Lopez and Gordon had we got this done on like draft night or something.

I want this done before Wood signs so we can make a run at him. Hell be a nice boost, preferably off the bench

[miamiballer]

What’s taking so long just trade him to us already

[Kobewade11]

No, but I don't expect Haynes to talk about it publicly unless Dame is cool with it.

Lol. You think Haynes needs Dame’s permission to do his job?

Of course not unless he still wants to get exclusives from Lillard.

The fact that you guys are honestly insinuating Dame is going to cut Haynes off for saying other teams are calling Portland about him is comical. This is what NBA teams do when a star is on the market. Every offseason people act like this is their first time around the rodeo.

[MettaWorldPanda]

By the way, the HEAT can unlock their other picks if the pick that BKN would be providing them for Herro is the 2025 pick they got from PHX. Just something to keep in mind. They don't have to go back to OKC to unlock picks if that's the case.

It unlocks 2024 but what else? I don’t think the Heat 2024 is worth much to the Blazers since it will probably be very late. Better off just taking the pick from BK.

The pick goes to Miami and they keep it to unlock 2024/2026/2028/2030

2026 is tied up in stipulations to OKC. Even if they did get a 2025 if not mistaken. They could trade 2024 and even if OKC rolls pick to 2026 that still means only 2024, 2028, and 2030 are the only tradeables

[3ammy3uck3ts]

He’ll bring me Zach Collins back in the deal.

[IceColdCubano]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

What’s taking so long just trade him to us already

Pick and salary eating haggling. All parties need to meet in middle somewhere

[CrossOver]

What’s taking so long just trade him to us already

3 or 4 team deals are super elaborate and there's a lot of players involved/big money switching salary caps/several pick stipulations. It's going to take a while for it all to get approved if they move forward with it. It isn't just throwing it into a trade machine and getting "SUCCESS" spit back at them.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

We need this done today, before other teams convince themselves to trade for Dame anyway, and gamble that he will be a good soldier and wont turn malcontent



I think Pat knows the urgency of this trade before something crazy happens to ruin it.


The hold up is probably from the other teams involved in the multi team trade

[MettaWorldPanda]

He’ll bring me Zach Collins back in the deal.

He probably ends up back in Portland for his expiring

[greg4012]

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This Haynes clown is breaking my balls.

Ya suspect

[MettaWorldPanda]

What’s taking so long just trade him to us already

3 or 4 team deals are super elaborate and there's a lot of players involved/big money switching salary caps/several pick stipulations. It's going to take a while for it all to get approved if they move forward with it. It isn't just throwing it into a trade machine and getting "SUCCESS" spit back at them.

Exactly! Lol

[AirP.]

Lol. You think Haynes needs Dame’s permission to do his job?

Of course not unless he still wants to get exclusives from Lillard.

The fact that you guys are honestly insinuating Dame is going to cut Haynes off for saying other teams are calling Portland about him is comical. This is what NBA teams do when a star is on the market. Every offseason people act like this is their first time around the rodeo.

Cut off completely, no, may withhold some info from him, absolutely. There's no telling what info Hayes has that's never has been mentioned. Loyalty seems to be important to Lillard and I'm sure Haynes has been loyal to him and with that has insights that he's never mentioned.

[ShulaDon92]

Now the algorithm boyz have done it.


Herro is DISRESPECTED

-SHULA

[Spacely]

Who’s to say dame doesn’t ask for a trade on the next team either? He clearly wants Miami, no other option.

[Hallstar]

There are people here still pretending Herro is some 25 ppg all star.. this guy is just slightly better than Jordan Clarkson.. and as i said on the other thread, the only other eastern playoff team from this past postseason that he would be a starter would be the Knicks. Not a starter in any western postseason team.

Hes a sixth man getting paid like a starter.

Yet this "bum" is supposed to be the central piece in a Dame Lillard trade and wondering what's taking so long? You can't denigrate a player at every opportunity then flip it that he's worth being the only piece worth a damn in a superstar trade? Make it make sense.

Well the blazers have no use for him and don’t view him as better than any of their guards and now Brooklyn is saying they want picks to take him on. We need you on the phone asap talking to Brooklyn to sell them on the importance of adding Devin Booker 2.0+ to their roster after the success Mikal already had next to Booker

Brooklyn knows we're desperate and they have ZERO incentive to help us. We're in their conference and view themselves as a borderline playoff team. If they can leave us as Dame/Bam/Jimmy and absolute garbage without a pick til 2030, it's in their best interest to do so

[AirP.]

Now the algorithm boyz have done it.


Herro is DISRESPECTED

-SHULA

On Part 2 of Bill Simmons' podcast last night... now that Herro looks to be on the way out from Miami Simmons' is talking better about him somewhere around the 1:10-1:13 minute mark of the podcast.

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