Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade

[MiamiSPX]

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Riley got the word through to him somehow..."Stay firm and resolute, it will all work out" lol.

[Zeno]

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It's exactly how we thought this was going to play out.

"Dame we tried" .. Cronin knew back of his mind he had to take BPA again

Yep lol.

Now they're painting Dame as the villain. It's a cold business, and people wonder why players aren't loyal to franchises anymore.

That part of it sucks for sure but I think what sent Cronin over the edge was Miami dumping Oladipo’s expiring when they knew what was happening so they could force Herro or Robinson’s deals on them.

[HumbleRen]

It's exactly how we thought this was going to play out.

"Dame we tried" .. Cronin knew back of his mind he had to take BPA again

Yep lol.

Now they're painting Dame as the villain. It's a cold business, and people wonder why players aren't loyal to franchises anymore.

That part of it sucks for sure but I think what sent Cronin over the edge was Miami dumping Oladipo’s expiring when they knew what was happening so they could force Herro or Robinson’s deals on them.

That's fair but he had to known what was happening the moment he decided to go back on his word to Dame and keep the pick lol.

They made that man sit out 50+ games in the last 2 years so they can tank to get assets to help Dame win and all they did was end up keeping their picks and stealthy rebuilding a future without him in it. That's brutal.

[sidsid]

This is turning into a mix of an AD and Kawhi situation. Dame is poisoning the well with the rest of the league, but he's also old and that puts a cap on return with Miami being the only suitor, who have almost nothing of value.

You can stop with your OG and Barnes trades. We're in Trent plus futures territory here with a guy who may not report.

[HumbleRen]

This is turning into a mix of an AD and Kawhi situation. Dame is poisoning the well with the rest of the league, but he's also old and that puts a cap on return with Miami being the only suitor, who have almost nothing of value.

You can stop with your OG and Barnes trades. We're in Trent plus futures territory here with a guy who may not report.

[Son Goku 25]

This is turning into a mix of an AD and Kawhi situation. Dame is poisoning the well with the rest of the league, but he's also old and that puts a cap on return with Miami being the only suitor, who have almost nothing of value.

You can stop with your OG and Barnes trades. We're in Trent plus futures territory here with a guy who may not report.

I miss the days when Masai would offer a guy like Flynn for an upgrade and the other team would take it and love it

[Zeno]

Yep lol.

Now they're painting Dame as the villain. It's a cold business, and people wonder why players aren't loyal to franchises anymore.

That part of it sucks for sure but I think what sent Cronin over the edge was Miami dumping Oladipo’s expiring when they knew what was happening so they could force Herro or Robinson’s deals on them.

That's fair but he had to known what was happening the moment he decided to go back on his word to Dame and keep the pick lol.

They made that man sit out 50+ games in the last 2 years so they can tank to get assets to help Dame win and all they did was end up keeping their picks and stealthy rebuilding a future without him in it. That's brutal.

Yeah Cronin was probably the least classy reaction to a loss since Dan Gilbert’s comic sans letter. Real garbage. He needed to explain the situation, his desire to accommodate Dame but not to Portland’s detriment.

[ItsDanger]

If your a team that is a star player's top 5 destination, wouldn't you overpay one of your younger players (Herro) just to match up salaries for future trades? Feels like this is what happened with certain teams resulting in player's salaries well above their production/value.

[Raps Next GM]

They made that man sit out 50+ games in the last 2 years so they can tank to get assets to help Dame win and all they did was end up keeping their picks and stealthy rebuilding a future without him in it. That's brutal.

I’m usually pro-player and anti-management, but Dame resigned a long term deal and is being paid handsomely. The Blazers haven’t TRIED to lose. They’ve tried to build around him but have failed.
As the saying goes: “Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.”

You want out? Fine, no one blames you.

You have a list of preferred destinations? Sure, we’ll try to work something out with those teams first and will even prioritize Miami.

You want Miami and only Miami and we have to accept whatever they want to offer? F*** that, sign with them as a free agent in a few years.

How can he whine about loyalty? He didn’t play for free? He didn’t take less than was owed to him (nor should he have).
But now he’s torpedoing Portland’s trade leverage? Let him rot.

Siakam said he won’t commit to re-signing if traded to another team and many roasted him as selfish. Dame is teaching a master class in what being completely unreasonable and selfish actually is.

If I am the Blazers, Miami’s price just went up.

[HumbleRen]

They made that man sit out 50+ games in the last 2 years so they can tank to get assets to help Dame win and all they did was end up keeping their picks and stealthy rebuilding a future without him in it. That's brutal.

I’m usually pro-player and anti-management, but Dame resigned a long term deal and is being paid handsomely. The Blazers haven’t TRIED to lose. They’ve tried to build around him but have failed.
As the saying goes: “Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.”

You want out? Fine, no one blames you.

You have a list of preferred destinations? Sure, we’ll try to work something out with those teams first and will even prioritize Miami.

You want Miami and only Miami and we have to accept whatever they want to offer? F*** that, sign with them as a free agent in a few years.

How can he whine about loyalty? He didn’t play for free? He didn’t take less than was owed to him (nor should he have).
But now he’s torpedoing Portland’s trade leverage? Let him rot.

Siakam said he won’t commit to re-signing if traded to another team and many roasted him as selfish. Dame is the one being completely unreasonable and selfish here.

Dame was getting paid no matter what lol. Portland doesn’t get kudos from me on that.

They went back on their word on building a true contender, that’s what it is.

Now they don’t have to accommodate Dame but Dame is perfectly in his right to have a preferred destination. As long as he doesn’t pull a Ben Simmons.

[YogurtProducer]

If your a team that is a star player's top 5 destination, wouldn't you overpay one of your younger players (Herro) just to match up salaries for future trades? Feels like this is what happened with certain teams resulting in player's salaries well above their production/value.

100% but it happens all over the league. The soft cap means if you don't pay your bird right guys you can't pay anyone, so you might as well.

It can go to the extremes (Miami with Herro) or the more irrelevant (Thad with Toronto)

[Raps Next GM]

Dame was getting paid no matter what lol. Portland doesn’t get kudos from me on that.

Of course, but it was the Blazers logo on those cheques. They paid for his “loyalty” literally and figuratively. So the sob story some are espousing of Damian being a victim is absurd.

They went back on their word on building a true contender, that’s what it is.

No team can guarantee championships or even contention. They didn’t plan to be treadmill team, they are just bad at their jobs.
But more than anything they rightfully should be doing what’s best for the Portland Trail Blazers, which by extension should benefit Lillard too, but if not then so be it.

Now they don’t have to accommodate Dame but Dame is perfectly in his right to have a preferred destination. As long as he doesn’t pull a Ben Simmons.

1,000%
They should absolutely work with Miami to grant him his wish. But they don’t owe it to him.

If I am Cronin, I announce that we’re prepared to hold up talks because the well has been tainted through demands and possible “bad faith negotiations” (code for tampering) with certain clubs.
Reset in a few weeks unless ANY team makes a Godfather offer that they cannot refuse.

[WuTang_CMB]

This haynes podcast too funny

basically reading 5 pages of what Dame told him

[HangTime]

Raptors get: Lillard, Lowry

Heat get: Young, Flynn ($17M in Total savings)

Blazers get: Pascal, Gary

It works in the trade machine
Add some picks, small contracts, wherever they should be.

[MiamiSPX]

Raptors get: Lillard, Lowry

Heat get: Young, Flynn ($17M in Total savings)

Blazers get: Pascal, Gary

It works in the trade machine
Add some picks, small contracts, wherever they should be.

You think Riley is going to include himself in a 3-team deal where the star goes to a different team and he gets 2 scrubs just to save money lol? He would rather stretch and waive Lowry than help someone else land Dame.

[Federalies]

So Sean seems to think that Portland would need a Blue Chipper (i.e. Scottie) as the starting expectation. Not sure how that fits with either the Heat Hero or a 76ers Maxi package. In short, the preferred teams are ok with flawed high end role players and crapy future picks but we’d need to start with Scottie?

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[JRoy]

This is turning into a mix of an AD and Kawhi situation. Dame is poisoning the well with the rest of the league, but he's also old and that puts a cap on return with Miami being the only suitor, who have almost nothing of value.

You can stop with your OG and Barnes trades. We're in Trent plus futures territory here with a guy who may not report.

Didn’t that happen with Mourning?

[Raps in 4]

Alright I think we legit have a shot at Dame. 100% guaranteed Masai is trying to get Dame and definitely wants to take advantage of this opportunity like the Kawhi situation. Idk who we can trade. I feel like we can offer a better package than Miami

Dame/Schroder
GTJ/JMac
OG/OPJ
Siakam/
Poeltl/

He refused to trade Barnes for KD, but he'll do it for Dame. Makes sense.

I think more Likly OG, young , Chris , Dick or PA + 3 FRP. Don’t think Miami can match this offer
It work when I try trade machine

Dams
GTJ
Scottie
Siakam/
Poeltl

3 FRPs and a lotto prospect for 2-3 productive years of Dame is also an awful trade. Those picks would convert in 2026, 2028, and 2030 (exactly the years in which we'd be rebuilding after this experiment).

[manjusaka]

This is turning into a mix of an AD and Kawhi situation. Dame is poisoning the well with the rest of the league, but he's also old and that puts a cap on return with Miami being the only suitor, who have almost nothing of value.

You can stop with your OG and Barnes trades. We're in Trent plus futures territory here with a guy who may not report.

Didn’t that happen with Mourning?

It happened to Ben Simmons too. Morey simply withheld his salary.

[HangTime]

Raptors get: Lillard, Lowry

Heat get: Young, Flynn ($17M in Total savings)

Blazers get: Pascal, Gary

It works in the trade machine
Add some picks, small contracts, wherever they should be.

You think Riley is going to include himself in a 3-team deal where the star goes to a different team and he gets 2 scrubs just to save money lol? He would rather stretch and waive Lowry than help someone else land Dame.

If you stretch Kyle's contract its about $10M~ for the next 3 season, or $13M~ just this year.

I mean, I think we'd be the ones doing Pat Riley a favour.