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Miami Heat Offseason Thread 7.0: 3ammy vs Cronin, Winner Takes Dame!!

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 7.0: 3ammy vs Cronin, Winner Takes Dame!! 

Post#381 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:15 pm

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greg4012 wrote:I'm recalling now the inherent value of ICC's nuggets last offseason--it was to keep us all from murdering each other in the absence of notable news to grasp onto and dissect LOL


I can do the job just as well. Give me the opportunity. You guys will never know the difference.


I say let er rip.

But you're already facing an uphill climb because you've lifted the shroud of mystique


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Post#382 » by greg4012 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:16 pm

DayofMourning wrote:My sources tell me that the deal should be done soon...


Sauces?
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Post#384 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:19 pm

HIF wrote:
dean456 wrote:
miamiballer wrote:Rumor on Celtics board is a 3 team deal with dame to Boston, jaylen brown to spurs, and picks/young players from spurs

Oh god, just get dame here asap


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But that was June 9


I have a strong feeling why Dame won't go to Boston. I don't think here is the place to discuss or start the discussion. Go to Google and type in Dame's name with the right subject and you might see why Hayne is so confident about him avoiding Boston.
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Post#385 » by Spacely » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:22 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:Ok Guys I've got some updates: Sauccee Nuggets time.

What I was told, There are 2 seperate 3 team frameworks put together.
Framework, 1 is with Brooklyn With Herro heading there. (Portland is still not sold on it, they are adament about getting Nurk going out, however neither Miami or Brooklyn is willing to absorb.
Framework, 2 is with San Antonio, however its different, SA has enticed Portland taking their young guards for 2 FRP's & 3 SRP's, with Portland then keeping Herro in the deal. This is something that they are starting to munch on, they like the picks from SA, plus Herro works since they are sending out their guards.

Philly has an offer in but still unwilling to use Maxie in the trade, also it sounds like Philly is working on a bigger deal with LA Clippers at the moment and aren't as aggressive as other teams.

Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front.

The last thing he said, was Miami is still in pursuit as aggressive as ever looking for a possible 4 team Framework to allow Nurk to get absorbed elsewhere, Miami may need to unlock OKC's pick to use this to have somebody help take on the Nurk Deal. They aren't having much luck yet, and everyone is taking advantage knowing Miami is very much looking to get Lillard, so their asking for too much value to help.

This may come down to who blinks first Miami is running out of options, to satisfy Portland's request, at this time they have exhausted any variation of three teamer swap known to man unless a team raises their hand at the last minute.


They already have Vassell and Johnson why would they want Simons and/or Sharpe (doubt Portland gives up Sharpe)

Is it because they are getting SA FRP’s plus MIA is gonna fork up some picks?
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Post#386 » by HEATVols865 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:23 pm

So the girl I know that was part of the Heat’s even planning team during the Big 3, she planned the Yes. We. Did. celebration and the parades, posted on her Facebook this: “I’m happy for my former colleagues at the Miami Heat. Y’all enjoy the ride!
P.S. I’m hearing things will be lots of fun!”

This girl is legit, she has two championship rings and pics with the Larry O’Brien trophies and a bunch of pics hanging out with Heat players during that time.


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Post#387 » by MartyCONLONNN » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:24 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:Ok Guys I've got some updates: Sauccee Nuggets time.

What I was told, There are 2 seperate 3 team frameworks put together.
Framework, 1 is with Brooklyn With Herro heading there. (Portland is still not sold on it, they are adament about getting Nurk going out, however neither Miami or Brooklyn is willing to absorb.
Framework, 2 is with San Antonio, however its different, SA has enticed Portland taking their young guards for 2 FRP's & 3 SRP's, with Portland then keeping Herro in the deal. This is something that they are starting to munch on, they like the picks from SA, plus Herro works since they are sending out their guards.

Philly has an offer in but still unwilling to use Maxie in the trade, also it sounds like Philly is working on a bigger deal with LA Clippers at the moment and aren't as aggressive as other teams.

Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front.

The last thing he said, was Miami is still in pursuit as aggressive as ever looking for a possible 4 team Framework to allow Nurk to get absorbed elsewhere, Miami may need to unlock OKC's pick to use this to have somebody help take on the Nurk Deal. They aren't having much luck yet, and everyone is taking advantage knowing Miami is very much looking to get Lillard, so their asking for too much value to help.

This may come down to who blinks first Miami is running out of options, to satisfy Portland's request, at this time they have exhausted any variation of three teamer swap known to man unless a team raises their hand at the last minute.


"Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front."

jesus, this is the stuff that makes you notorious as a fraud outside of this board in the Heat community. Lakers literally don't have the money to match outside of LBJ or AD. Literally impossible. LIke fully impossible. Why is your source that interned for the FO clearly at a high level with all this intel telling you impossible scenarios? There have been so many nuggets over the past year + where you have had to cover for yourself because they didnt make sense within cap rules.
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Post#388 » by MorbidHEAT » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:24 pm

HEATVols865 wrote:So the girl I know that was part of the Heat’s even planning team during the Big 3, she planned the Yes. We. Did. celebration and the parades, posted on her Facebook this: “I’m happy for my former colleagues at the Miami Heat. Y’all enjoy the ride!
P.S. I’m hearing things will be lots of fun!”

This girl is legit, she has two championship rings and pics with the Larry O’Brien trophies and a bunch of pics hanging out with Heat players during that time.


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This right here is a real inside source.
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Post#389 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:25 pm

HEATVols865 wrote:So the girl I know that was part of the Heat’s even planning team during the Big 3, she planned the Yes. We. Did. celebration and the parades, posted on her Facebook this: “I’m happy for my former colleagues at the Miami Heat. Y’all enjoy the ride!
P.S. I’m hearing things will be lots of fun!”

This girl is legit, she has two championship rings and pics with the Larry O’Brien trophies and a bunch of pics hanging out with Heat players during that time.


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Sweet!!!!
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Post#390 » by unowen85 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:25 pm

If this 3ammy vs. Cronin thread goes anything like his Bam vs. Bosh thread, then Dame is headed to Boston…
For a long time it gave me nightmares,witnessing an injustice like that.It’s a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be.I can still hear them taunting him, Silly Rabbit tricks are for kids.I mean why couldn’t they just give him some cereal?
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Post#391 » by Vertical Limit » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:25 pm

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Flash4thewin wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Let's just see. There are too many examples to count that didn't require where a superstar doesn't go full Ben Simmons and still gets their way. Too many posters only see the economic transactions and don't understand that soft power (goes beyond what is written in the contract) and human dynamics impact this as much as anything else.

I remember when many were guaranteeing Dame wouldn't ask out. Guaranteeing Dame wouldn't specify his destination. Guaranteeing BKN would outbid Miami.

Power and leverage exist in more places than simply what is written in a contract.


Soft power means squat here if we are being honest. Portland is not a hot free agent destination. How they treat Dame won't have any impact on future free agents. Does anyone honestly think player X 5 years from today will be like " oh no I wont go to Portland because of what they did to Dame" Under different locations and situations one can make an argument, not a good one but an argument for "soft power" this is not one of those situations.

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At the end of the day this is the owner of the Blazers. Do you honestly think she give a rats ass about what Dame wants, especially after she perceives him to betray the team as a traitor. If one has ever dealt with a Karen in real life you know where this is going. She is the one that will decide when this is over unfortunately for us. It wont be hard to get Portland to treat Dame and his family worse that Vince Carter if he does really sit out. If Dame has any common sense left he sells his house and moves his family asap.



If I remember correctly at one point she kind of turned Dame's opinions down in a meeting or for a meeting about changes/decisions the franchise should make. Don't quote me on that though. I'll see if I can dig it up on Google. If it is true then she definitely doesn't have that connection to Dame.

He requested a meeting to talk about coaches and players he would like to play with.. she basically said youre a player, we are the owners, you dont have an opinion on this.. and then when that came out public, to save face she offered him his current supermax and put out a statement on how important he is to the city..


But she surely showed her true colors.. Paul Allen was a lot more respectful to players. She sees them as employees.
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Post#392 » by Spacely » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:26 pm

MartyCONLONNN wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:Ok Guys I've got some updates: Sauccee Nuggets time.

What I was told, There are 2 seperate 3 team frameworks put together.
Framework, 1 is with Brooklyn With Herro heading there. (Portland is still not sold on it, they are adament about getting Nurk going out, however neither Miami or Brooklyn is willing to absorb.
Framework, 2 is with San Antonio, however its different, SA has enticed Portland taking their young guards for 2 FRP's & 3 SRP's, with Portland then keeping Herro in the deal. This is something that they are starting to munch on, they like the picks from SA, plus Herro works since they are sending out their guards.

Philly has an offer in but still unwilling to use Maxie in the trade, also it sounds like Philly is working on a bigger deal with LA Clippers at the moment and aren't as aggressive as other teams.

Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front.

The last thing he said, was Miami is still in pursuit as aggressive as ever looking for a possible 4 team Framework to allow Nurk to get absorbed elsewhere, Miami may need to unlock OKC's pick to use this to have somebody help take on the Nurk Deal. They aren't having much luck yet, and everyone is taking advantage knowing Miami is very much looking to get Lillard, so their asking for too much value to help.

This may come down to who blinks first Miami is running out of options, to satisfy Portland's request, at this time they have exhausted any variation of three teamer swap known to man unless a team raises their hand at the last minute.


"Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front."

jesus, this is the stuff that makes you notorious as a fraud outside of this board in the Heat community. Lakers literally don't have the money to match outside of LBJ or AD. Literally impossible. LIke fully impossible. Why is your source that interned for the FO clearly at a high level with all this intel telling you impossible scenarios? There have been so many nuggets over the past year + where you have had to cover for yourself because they didnt make sense within cap rules.


Marty is right though, Lakers don’t even have the ability to trade for dame…
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Post#393 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:26 pm

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Post#394 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:27 pm

I hear Portland wants us to take on the bad memory of FRP Greg Oden in any Lilard deal…
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Post#395 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:27 pm

MartyCONLONNN wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:Ok Guys I've got some updates: Sauccee Nuggets time.

What I was told, There are 2 seperate 3 team frameworks put together.
Framework, 1 is with Brooklyn With Herro heading there. (Portland is still not sold on it, they are adament about getting Nurk going out, however neither Miami or Brooklyn is willing to absorb.
Framework, 2 is with San Antonio, however its different, SA has enticed Portland taking their young guards for 2 FRP's & 3 SRP's, with Portland then keeping Herro in the deal. This is something that they are starting to munch on, they like the picks from SA, plus Herro works since they are sending out their guards.

Philly has an offer in but still unwilling to use Maxie in the trade, also it sounds like Philly is working on a bigger deal with LA Clippers at the moment and aren't as aggressive as other teams.

Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front.

The last thing he said, was Miami is still in pursuit as aggressive as ever looking for a possible 4 team Framework to allow Nurk to get absorbed elsewhere, Miami may need to unlock OKC's pick to use this to have somebody help take on the Nurk Deal. They aren't having much luck yet, and everyone is taking advantage knowing Miami is very much looking to get Lillard, so their asking for too much value to help.

This may come down to who blinks first Miami is running out of options, to satisfy Portland's request, at this time they have exhausted any variation of three teamer swap known to man unless a team raises their hand at the last minute.


"Rumor is LA Lakers, and Boston would be willing to put in a all or nothing trade package only if Damian Lillard gives them assurances, which is isn't which has pissed off Portland's FO that Lillard isn't cooperating on that front."

jesus, this is the stuff that makes you notorious as a fraud outside of this board in the Heat community. Lakers literally don't have the money to match outside of LBJ or AD. Literally impossible. LIke fully impossible. Why is your source that interned for the FO clearly at a high level with all this intel telling you impossible scenarios? There have been so many nuggets over the past year + where you have had to cover for yourself because they didnt make sense within cap rules.


Lol. They literally just signed back everyone who contracts are worth something. I think they have 1 pick left to trade. Also there's issues with Boston trading for Dame as well if you visit their board. They're saying something about Brown and his potential max contract.
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Post#396 » by CrossOver » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:28 pm

Marc Stein has mentioned in his substack chat that he's expecting to see a couple moves happen today. No specifics on what though.
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Post#397 » by HEATVols865 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:28 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:
HEATVols865 wrote:So the girl I know that was part of the Heat’s even planning team during the Big 3, she planned the Yes. We. Did. celebration and the parades, posted on her Facebook this: “I’m happy for my former colleagues at the Miami Heat. Y’all enjoy the ride!
P.S. I’m hearing things will be lots of fun!”

This girl is legit, she has two championship rings and pics with the Larry O’Brien trophies and a bunch of pics hanging out with Heat players during that time.


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This right here is a real inside source.

Now this girl, last summer was hearing the KD stuff and the Heat was so confident that they reached out to her to come back if they got him.
Not saying this is done but she’s connected and Miami was sad to see her leave but she maximized and got paid outside the Heat.


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Post#398 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:30 pm

unowen85 wrote:If this 3ammy vs. Cronin thread goes anything like his Bam vs. Bosh thread, then Dame is headed to Boston…



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Post#399 » by MartyCONLONNN » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:31 pm

Daffy wrote:
Lol. They literally just signed back everyone who contracts are worth something. I think they have 1 pick left to trade. Also there's issues with Boston trading for Dame as well if you visit their board. They're saying something about Brown and his potential max contract.


Daffy, you realize all of those contracts are untradable right?
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