Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[rocketsfan100]

All the reconciliation stuff coming from Shelbourne is just posturing from Morey to gain the upper hand in a trade with the Clippers or Knicks.

Listen to what Sam Amick and Stephen A Smith who both predicted the harden wanting out a few days before it hit the fan via Woj and they say Harden and Morey are done.


The 76ers right now can take their time to get the best available offer which will get better after dame is traded and the free agent market finishes.Once harden opted in it gave the 76ers upper hand.. Morey is playing it right


Sam Amick thinks there is zero chance of any reconciliation. Harden will end up With either Clippers or Knicks. He thinks harden will not show up to camp if he is not traded

[Decipher]

Blazers should have made the decision to trade Dame as soon as they hit on Scoot as he & Shaedon are their backcourt of the future

I like Maxey but they don’t need to pay him the max whilst they have Simons

[Jhawk03]

Blazers should have made the decision to trade Dame as soon as they hit on Scoot as he & Shaedon are their backcourt of the future

I like Maxey but they don’t need to pay him the max whilst they have Simons

They hit on Scoot without trading Dame right away.

They don't need Maxey who's awaiting a max contract, but they NEED Herro and Lowry and should have traded him to Miami as soon as Scoot put on a Blazers hat draft night. Yeah I'm out

[youngcrev]

Let's pretend all it takes is Harden (to a 3rd team), a pick (we can only trade one), and a whole bunch of swaps.

That's a yes from everyone here, right? Just trying to suss out who the silly gooses (not geese) are around here.

[sixers4real]

Let's pretend all it takes is Harden (to a 3rd team), a pick (we can only trade one), and a whole bunch of swaps.

That's a yes from everyone here, right? Just trying to suss out who the silly gooses (not geese) are around here.

For Lillard?

[youngcrev]

Let's pretend all it takes is Harden (to a 3rd team), a pick (we can only trade one), and a whole bunch of swaps.

That's a yes from everyone here, right? Just trying to suss out who the silly gooses (not geese) are around here.

For Lillard?

Yeah, who else we talking about?

[LessMorey]

I would definitely do that. I've always thought people overrate protected 1sts and underrate unprotected swaps.

The most we can get from the Clippers in assets is Mann and two firsts in 2028 and 2030. Would Mann, three 1sts, and a few swaps be enough for Lillard? I don't think so. Depends on how they view Mann and/or what they'd be able to get for him from another team.

[Kobblehead]

Let's pretend all it takes is Harden (to a 3rd team), a pick (we can only trade one), and a whole bunch of swaps.

That's a yes from everyone here, right? Just trying to suss out who the silly gooses (not geese) are around here.

It feels like the silly move is to give up even more picks and swaps for an aging 6'2" guy who shoots 41% in the playoffs. On the court, it's a lateral (at best) move from Harden to Lillard. So we just reshuffle the co-star that we get bounced in the 2nd round with. Seems like an exercise in futility. One that cripples us even further.

[sixers4real]

Let's pretend all it takes is Harden (to a 3rd team), a pick (we can only trade one), and a whole bunch of swaps.

That's a yes from everyone here, right? Just trying to suss out who the silly gooses (not geese) are around here.

For Lillard?

Yeah, who else we talking about?

I’m taking to myself about Jaylen Brown, not about Lillard. I don’t know why Brown have yet to sign that super-max extension. But obviously there are some reasons.
Maybe Morey is in talks with Celtics and some other teams (Blazers, Clippers) to a big three-team/four-team deal.

About your initial question, to me, Harden and Lillard are no difference. I enjoy watching Harden more.
Giving up every remaining draft capital for Lillard? No thanks.

[Kobblehead]

Also, Dame doesn't even want to be here.

So aging munchkin on one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Bad playoff performer. Doesn't want to be here.

Why sign up for that?

[Kobblehead]

I hope Jaylen Brown doesn't sign anything and hits the market unrestricted when his deal is up.

[sixers4real]

I hope Jaylen Brown doesn't sign anything and hits the market unrestricted when his deal is up.

And signs up with Philly? He’s the only one FA I like from 2024 FA list.

I think Sixers FO can try to get Brown now for Maxey + Harris if Boston refuses to give him his super-max. But Morey’s first offer should absolutely be Harden + Tucker

[phiphan]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

[Kobblehead]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

On the positive end of that, you could say Jaylen Brown is decisive and has less wasted movement than the typical 20+ point scorer.

Over the past three playoff runs, Jaylen Brown is scoring 22.6 ppg on 48% shooting. Those numbers DESTROY Harden's, Lillard's, Derozan's, George's, etc.

[Arsenal]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

On the positive end of that, you could say Jaylen Brown is decisive and has less wasted movement than the typical 20+ point scorer.

Over the past three playoff runs, Jaylen Brown is scoring 22.6 ppg on 48% shooting. Those numbers DESTROY Harden's, Lillard's, Derozan's, George's, etc.

Another point in Brown's favor is that he's only 27 next year and has 4+ years of his athletic prime left, not approaching his mid-thirties and about to fall off the cliff like the guy people are so thirsty for.

[Jhawk03]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

It might sound bitter and irrational, but I want no part of anyone that's ever put on a Celtics jersey. Even long before The Horford, that's always been a deal breaker personally.

[Arsenal]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

It might sound bitter and irrational, but I want no part of anyone that's ever put on a Celtics jersey. Even long before The Horford, that's always been a deal breaker personally.

OTOH imagine the feeling of taking their homegrown star and winning a title with him. Would stick the knife right in their heart!

[youngcrev]

Ah, so we're doing a thing where we talk about players we can't get?

Yo, we should get Luka!

[Jhawk03]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

It might sound bitter and irrational, but I want no part of anyone that's ever put on a Celtics jersey. Even long before The Horford, that's always been a deal breaker personally.

OTOH imagine the feeling of taking their homegrown star and winning a title with him. Would stick the knife right in their heart!

I'd be dead on the inside, but I guess it'd be bittersweet. Still I'd rather not break my oath to never do business with anything Boston. That was even before The Fultz.

[Ben]

Jaylen Brown is fool’s gold. He’s mostly an opportunistic scorer. In isolation he’s got a terrible handle and has no shiftiness—basically he needs his first step to get him an uninterrupted lane to the basket, or else the wheels fall off.

I've been waiting for someone to write something like this. My take on it is that Brown's an excellent player-- with some of the shortcomings you mentioned, and he's not an elite defender-- and would be great to have, except that he's not worth a supermax contract. Supermax puts you the same kind of bind that others have described. And if Brown couldn't win a chip with Tatum, an Embiid-level impact player, and a super-deep and well-coached team over multiple years, I don't see any great reason to suspect that he could win one here with an older Embiid and very little supporting cast.

Also, as per the Horford comment earlier, I can't help but suspect that Brown would regress from Celtic form if he came here. Whether it's something in the coaching, in the influence of management, or in the water, I can't get buck that feeling that players just do better on certain teams. Generally teams that I hate.