Miami Heat Offseason Thread 7.0: 3ammy vs Cronin, Winner Takes Dame!!

[powerball1373]

They could always send him home to wait until a deal gets done.

The drama of sending a 33 year old franchise player home so that young guys can get shots up is insanity. Dame will destroy that organization from his couch. There will be nothing left.

Fans don't have that kind of loyalty to players. Heat fans have convinced themselves that Blazer fans will turn on their team if they don't do right by Dame. Our own history should tell you different. Blazer fans aren't going to be happy if Dame gets what he wants, they are going to be happy if Cronin rapes the Heat or some other organization like Danny Ainge did when he shipped out Gobert and Mitchell. That's what Blazer fans want.

Exactly. Imagine if Wade wanted out of his contract to go play with lerbon in Cleveland/LA/wherever. You think people here would be mad at Riley if he wasn't bending over and grabbing his ankles just to make it happen? Hell naw, we'd probably be even more petty and want him to send him anywhere else out of spite lol.

[greg4012]

Just stop being a non bias homer?
I’m not like that, I see things for what they are. Just picture this “Dame has demanded a trade to the Lakers”. Now Portland has to accept Deangelo Russel and Hachimura plus any other over paid scrub on the team. Every single person here would be sounding like the guys on the GB how this is pure bs, how lebron always gets what he wants, why watch this fraternity sport etc.

Take off the homer glasses and realize it’s BS. We don’t have assets to deserve a guy like Dame. This would simply be a gift wrapped present to us and that’s the only reason everyone here jumping for joy. Tyler Herro is not landing Dame or Curry or KD or any top end player on the open market. This is bully tactics plain and simple.

Objectively speaking, your posts have been some of the most negative I've seen on this forum. That can't be fun for you can it?

I say 80% chance we get Dame but anything can happen.

The real question though, if we do get Dame, are you gonna stop or will you find something else to be super negative about?

To you it’s negative, to me it’s realistic. I’m a heat fan, but I’m not a blind homer. Herro for Dame wouldn’t even fly on NBA 2k with trade override on

your massive blindspot is the lack of understanding the large in between these extremes

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

The drama of sending a 33 year old franchise player home so that young guys can get shots up is insanity. Dame will destroy that organization from his couch. There will be nothing left.

Fans don't have that kind of loyalty to players. Heat fans have convinced themselves that Blazer fans will turn on their team if they don't do right by Dame. Our own history should tell you different. Blazer fans aren't going to be happy if Dame gets what he wants, they are going to be happy if Cronin rapes the Heat or some other organization like Danny Ainge did when he shipped out Gobert and Mitchell. That's what Blazer fans want.

Exactly. Imagine if Wade wanted out of his contract to go play with lerbon in Cleveland/LA/wherever. You think people here would be mad at Riley if he wasn't bending over and grabbing his ankles just to make it happen? Hell naw, we'd probably be even more petty and want him to send him anywhere else out of spite lol.

We're not Lebron

Comparison isn't similar

[MorbidHEAT]

Well, I probably lit a fuse in the gen board’s “a new scam” thread. Now we watch.

[powerball1373]

Fans don't have that kind of loyalty to players. Heat fans have convinced themselves that Blazer fans will turn on their team if they don't do right by Dame. Our own history should tell you different. Blazer fans aren't going to be happy if Dame gets what he wants, they are going to be happy if Cronin rapes the Heat or some other organization like Danny Ainge did when he shipped out Gobert and Mitchell. That's what Blazer fans want.

Exactly. Imagine if Wade wanted out of his contract to go play with lerbon in Cleveland/LA/wherever. You think people here would be mad at Riley if he wasn't bending over and grabbing his ankles just to make it happen? Hell naw, we'd probably be even more petty and want him to send him anywhere else out of spite lol.

We're not Lebron

Comparison isn't similar

Whatever, substitute any single team in there. I wouldn't give a chit where the player wanted to go, I'd want Riley to get the best possible deal. The player has to at least be reasonable and provide a list of more than ONE team. That's why it's not a no-trade clause. Take off your homer glasses for a second and try to think logically from both sides.

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[oreon]

Vastly overstated? You're seeing the issues of keeping younger guys with an aging star here in Miami with Herro and Butler, look how split this board is on the issue. If Butler never forced his way to Miami the fanbase would be more behind keeping Herro and hoping for continued development.

What issues ? This is just the anti Herro fanbase. Riley wants to win now and Herro salary is the best way to make it happen don't mean they are issues. Issues would be player discontentment, chemistry problems or offcourt stuff. None of that over here. They want to improve. If they could do it with the older players in Duncan/Lowry and keep Herro they would

And Portland is a different situation. They are not in a win now mode. If Dame stays and they get bounced in play in, they'd be ok with that or if he goes and they get a lottery pick. Very few teams operate in the championship or bust mentality

There would only be problems if Dame actively sought to sabotage the locker room. And judging from afar from his character that's not something he would do.

It would be uncomfortable if this gets to training camp but if Dame stays a professional it's not something that would force Portland to make a trade they don't want to

But I think it gets resolved before then but not today or in the next couple days. It might take a week or a couple for Portland to try generate more trade interests from other teams. If that fails, they might circle back to Heat. But they don't have to make a move now, they can afford to let this sit for a while

What issues? Trying to win while trying to develop players who eat up a significant portion of the cap which can spilt a fan base. I'm not comparing players, I'm comparing situations of an older star wanting to win vs a team not going all in/not cashing in on potential and instead developing a player for down the road.

That's only an issue for the player. It becomes an issue for the franchise if the player decides to become malcontent. Portland can decide to keep Dame. And its gonna be up to Dame to either be a professional or he can decide to pull a Harden/Butler to get himself out.
But there's no pressure right now on Portland FO to trade him right now if they don't like Heat's offer. The earliest they will start feeling some pressure is when training camp approaches and if Dame threatens to not show up.
There's no absolutely no reason they should trade him now if they don't like the offer

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Exactly. Imagine if Wade wanted out of his contract to go play with lerbon in Cleveland/LA/wherever. You think people here would be mad at Riley if he wasn't bending over and grabbing his ankles just to make it happen? Hell naw, we'd probably be even more petty and want him to send him anywhere else out of spite lol.

We're not Lebron

Comparison isn't similar

Whatever, substitute any single team in there. I wouldn't give a chit where the player wanted to go, I'd want Riley to get the best possible deal. The player has to at least be reasonable and provide a list of more than ONE team. That's why it's not a no-trade clause. Take off your homer glasses for a second and try to think logically from both sides.

If we never won a ring in 2006, and 2010 never happens. Wade gives us 11 years of MVP play, and we love him.. but he is ringless because no Shaq trade, no Lebron/Bosh, etc.

And one day Wade is 33 and wants to go somewhere to win, you better believe I want to send him where he wants to go.

Some things in life are about more than just the bottom line.

[Beenie]

Vice pink Bol jersey on deck?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

The only fair trade here is if we include Bam. Anything less than that Portland has no reason to accept our mediocre package. And imo that trade makes us worse, not better.

You're trippin

25 yo for a 33 yo

lol, no chance in hell. No that's not a fair trade at all.


And this has happened many times before. KD wanted PHX or Miami. Beal wanted PHX or Miami. etc.. but because Dame only wants Miami, suddenly it's a problem.

[Heat3]

Saw this on a blazers sub reddit, someone saying they were happy the blazers didn’t get Draymond.

4 years/100 million for a 33 year old on a new team for the first time since he was drafted - that's a recipe for disaster as a signing that doesn't age well.

But see, with Dame it’s different…

[Bourne85]

Objectively speaking, your posts have been some of the most negative I've seen on this forum. That can't be fun for you can it?

I say 80% chance we get Dame but anything can happen.

The real question though, if we do get Dame, are you gonna stop or will you find something else to be super negative about?

To you it’s negative, to me it’s realistic. I’m a heat fan, but I’m not a blind homer. Herro for Dame wouldn’t even fly on NBA 2k with trade override on

You didn't answer the question. In the "off chance homers are right" and the heat land Dame, what are you going to do? Will you apologize to all the "unrealistic homers" here?

Not at all, I will acknowledge that we were fortunate that Dame himself slit his own loyalty wrist and demanded to come to Miami. I will state that is THE only reason we got him. Nothing wrong with it at all. And at the same time the homers here will scream “the godfather” got it done, and pretend this was all his doing

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Great time for a 4-week vacation.

Why yall keep fallin for the fake account. It's 20.

50/50 chance he's the one behind that account.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

To you it’s negative, to me it’s realistic. I’m a heat fan, but I’m not a blind homer. Herro for Dame wouldn’t even fly on NBA 2k with trade override on

You didn't answer the question. In the "off chance homers are right" and the heat land Dame, what are you going to do? Will you apologize to all the "unrealistic homers" here?

Not at all, I will acknowledge that we were fortunate that Dame himself slit his own loyalty wrist and demanded to come to Miami. I will state that is THE only reason we got him. Nothing wrong with it at all. And at the same time the homers here will scream “the godfather” got it done, and pretend this was all his doing

They need to be thanking Bam first and foremost

[Vertical Limit]

Saw this on a blazers sub reddit, someone saying they were happy the blazers didn’t get Draymond.

4 years/100 million for a 33 year old on a new team for the first time since he was drafted - that's a recipe for disaster as a signing that doesn't age well.

But see, with Dame it’s different…

If draymond signs, other ringchasers would have signed as well to make portland competitive and dame wouldnt ask out. As a matter of fact, wouldnt shock me if we hear that portland was in talks with draymond and draymond turned them down. And so they went back to jerami grant, and then dame saw that and just thought oh they are running it back but with scoot, qnd he needs time to develop, and dame is 33. He is out, he dont have time to wait to be competitive. He can play competitive basketball, and make more money playing in Florida

[heatlejuice]

I wish this forum had a dislike button sometimes lol some delusional opinions would be humbled real quick

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I wish this forum had a dislike button sometimes lol some delusional opinions would be humbled real quick

Call them out!!

[powerball1373]

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