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July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade

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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#21 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:36 pm

RESPERT wrote:Logging in for the first time in a while just to respond to this one, what a time that was, probably the most depressing stretch in the franchise's history. A few other memories from that era that stand out and no longer get talked about enough here - useful for perspective:

1) Skiles was canned 1/8/13, replaced by Jim Boylan, but the Redick/Tobes trade (and failed Giannis Pick/Josh Smith trade) happened on 2/21/13 - Redick of course was an upcoming free agent who had already expressed no interest in a long term future with the Bucks, which means the organization decided it was wise to make their all-in, mortgage-the-future moves under an interim staff.

2) We need to talk about the Delfino contract from that offseason. IIRC he was coming off a typical mediocre Delfin-esque year with the Rockets, but had broken his foot very late in the season. Bucks naturally jumped at the chance to sign him to a considerable multi year deal - no clue how much homework was done on the injury - but next thing we know the foot is going to take years to heal, and I'm not sure Delfino ever sets foot (no pun intended) on US soil again.

3) The Delfino comedy of errors then intersected with the Bledsoe mess as well, although a year later. After Dudley was moved to the Clippers in that deal, he was so awful that LA gave us a first round pick just to take him off their hands, even though they didn't really dump salary in the deal - we sent them back the contract for ghost-Delfino. We then took that first that miraculously fell in our lap and tossed it aside like a used napkin in the Greivis Vasquez trade, where the Raptors turned it into OG

It can (and has) been so, so much worse


That was a really good recap.

And yet, there was so much more. We’ve have even touched on the reason we didn’t want Caron’s salary on our cap. We needed to have room for that big 4/$32 offer to Jeff Teague, that then got matched by the Hawks. This was a result of hiring his former coach, Larry Drew, earlier.

All that said, Drew’s contribution was BIG. He reportedly told Hammond that Danny Ferry loved Giannis. Since Hammond got burned by Ferry at the deadline earlier, by backing out of the Josh Smith trade, Hammond made sure to steal Ferry’s favorite in the draft
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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#22 » by kanyon » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:04 pm

What happened with Caron again? I was happy we got him, as a Racine native... Wasn't he pissed he wasn't starting/didn't want to just play the bench mentor role?
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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#23 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:22 am

kanyon wrote:What happened with Caron again? I was happy we got him, as a Racine native... Wasn't he pissed he wasn't starting/didn't want to just play the bench mentor role?


Yes, we had Caron in the year where he had to realize his career was over. But naturally most players don't want to admit it's over until they've had a couple seasons like that.
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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#24 » by kanyon » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:26 am

There is ways to do that more gracefully.
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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#25 » by RESPERT » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:35 am

paulpressey25 wrote: Since Hammond got burned by Ferry at the deadline earlier, by backing out of the Josh Smith trade, Hammond made sure to steal Ferry’s favorite in the draft


Yep, we'll never know if there's even a shred of truth to it, but the most entertaining version of the 2013 draft story involves mister-all-time-nice-guy John Hammond grabbing Ferry's guy out of spite

And to add on to the Drew/Ferry connection, when those two parted ways in 2013 it was at least partially because Ferry had become enamored by a Spurs assistant named Mike Budenholzer. It's uncanny how the same names keep appearing over and over in this story.

An enterprising writer really needs to track down Horst whenever his run is done here, and produce a front-office-centric narrative history starting in the late Skiles era and ending with the 2021 championship. It would sell horribly, mostly just to members of this forum, but would then be adapted into a highly successful and popular tv series.
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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#26 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:32 am

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paulpressey25 wrote: Since Hammond got burned by Ferry at the deadline earlier, by backing out of the Josh Smith trade, Hammond made sure to steal Ferry’s favorite in the draft


Yep, we'll never know if there's even a shred of truth to it, but the most entertaining version of the 2013 draft story involves mister-all-time-nice-guy John Hammond grabbing Ferry's guy out of spite

And to add on to the Drew/Ferry connection, when those two parted ways in 2013 it was at least partially because Ferry had become enamored by a Spurs assistant named Mike Budenholzer. It's uncanny how the same names keep appearing over and over in this story.

An enterprising writer really needs to track down Horst whenever his run is done here, and produce a front-office-centric narrative history starting in the late Skiles era and ending with the 2021 championship. It would sell horribly, mostly just to members of this forum, but would then be adapted into a highly successful and popular tv series.


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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

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Re: July 2, 2013 - 10 year anniversary of JJ Redick/Bledsoe sign and trade 

Post#28 » by GBPackers47 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 10:47 am

This thread made me realize how long Tobias Harris has been playing in the NBA and dude is only 30.

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