Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal

RiotPunch · Post #1921 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:38 pm

landoc88 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
Shaffty wrote:Rozier is awful

He is not awful. He is flawed, so is Sexton. Sexton is not a FRP better than him.

Sexton is also only 24 years old and has a better contract. Give me Sexton over Rozier today, tomorrow, and any Sunday.

We are talking in terms of giving up a 1st (which, if protected, ties up years of tradeable picks) for one and not giving up a 1st for the other. Come on, people.

Post #1922 » by **Prez** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:41 pm

Giving up a first would be awful. Do not trade it if you’re not getting a star. We need to hold on to them until we’re able to trade multiple firsts in a larger package.

RiotPunch · Post #1923 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:43 pm

Prez wrote:Giving up a first would be awful. Do not trade it if you’re not getting a star. We need to hold on to them until we’re able to trade multiple firsts in a larger package.

I would do it for Quickley... :oops:

emunney · Post #1924 » by **emunney** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:44 pm

Neither one of those guys is the type of player we need and trading rotation players for either one of them would be a classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

emunney · Post #1925 » by **emunney** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:44 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
Prez wrote:Giving up a first would be awful. Do not trade it if you’re not getting a star. We need to hold on to them until we’re able to trade multiple firsts in a larger package.

I would do it for Quickley...

He said if you're NOT getting a star.

RiotPunch · Post #1926 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:46 pm

emunney wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
Prez wrote:Giving up a first would be awful. Do not trade it if you’re not getting a star. We need to hold on to them until we’re able to trade multiple firsts in a larger package.

I would do it for Quickley...

He said if you're NOT getting a star.

DanoMac · Post #1927 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:47 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Sexton is not a better 3P shooter. Higher percentage on far fewer attempts, sure, but Rozier is superior from deep

Haha what? You can't say a dude's a better 3P shooter because he takes more attempts. Rozier also averaged 12 more MPG last season with Sexton still coming off an ACL. Would you say Giannis is a better 3P shooter too?

Can you also show me where Rozier is superior in the C&S? Because NBA.com would disagree with you

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612762&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612766&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

jschligs · Post #1928 » by **jschligs** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:49 pm

I think Sexton and Rozier would adjust well here being 5th fiddles. They won't have the freedom to run and gun like the teams they were on.

I'd take Sexton in a minute as long as we're not dealing that 29 first. Wouldn't really hesitate at all.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1929 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:51 pm

ackypoo wrote:

Read on Twitter

I would how common that is for some of these catch and shoot guys - would be hard to tell because I bet there are a lot of random non-assist plays that aren't the result of playmaking - Rebound bounces to them, weird loose ball, inbound pass, wide-open where they take a dribble step adjustment and cranky score keeper makes it unassisted.
Like do I want bobby even attempting a non-assisted 3 point shot?

German Athens · Post #1930 » by **German Athens** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:52 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
Prez wrote:Giving up a first would be awful. Do not trade it if you’re not getting a star. We need to hold on to them until we’re able to trade multiple firsts in a larger package.

I would do it for Quickley...

Easily.

Also, I’m kinda curious what people have in mind when we pool the picks next year.

In that scenario are we hanging onto Jrue or trading him also?

Basically, we could have those 3 firsts, two swaps, and likely get two more firsts for trading Jrue, but I don’t really think we’ll need all 5 firsts and two swaps for the type of player who’d be available/we’d be targeting.

DingleJerry · Post #1931 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:54 pm

DanoMac wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Sexton is not a better 3P shooter. Higher percentage on far fewer attempts, sure, but Rozier is superior from deep

Haha what? You can't say a dude's a better 3P shooter because he takes more attempts. Rozier also averaged 12 more MPG last season with Sexton still coming off an ACL. Would you say Giannis is a better 3P shooter too?

Can you also show me where Rozier is superior in the C&S? Because NBA.com would disagree with you

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612762&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612766&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

Just looked and it was meniscus, not acl. According to Wiki anyway. Would probably try to stay away from ACL/achilles guys when possible

RiotPunch · Post #1932 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:55 pm

DanoMac wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Sexton is not a better 3P shooter. Higher percentage on far fewer attempts, sure, but Rozier is superior from deep

Haha what? You can't say a dude's a better 3P shooter because he takes more attempts. Rozier also averaged 12 more MPG last season with Sexton still coming off an ACL. Would you say Giannis is a better 3P shooter too?

Can you also show me where Rozier is superior in the C&S? Because NBA.com would disagree with you

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612762&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612766&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

Was talking career numbers, Rozier was forced into a playmaking role a lot of last year. 2019-2021 he was among the best C&S guys. I like Sexton, not trying to start anything, friend.

SirChurros · Post #1933 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:55 pm

I’m not even a huge Sexton fan, but I’d say the odds of him being a better player than whoever might be around in the 2029 lottery are pretty good odds.

tedbrogen · Post #1934 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:56 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
JonHeist wrote:just slap a lottery protection on the pick and get this over with

The protection locks out picks on both sides of it from being moved…

Simple answer is to covert it to multiple 2nds but the optics don't look as good. Like is there much difference between 2 picks in the 30s and 1 in the 20s? Maybe IDK. Both are crappy picks.

Issue is still it locks out trading the 2030 pick until it is determined the 2029 pick will not convey which isn’t until the conclusion of the 2028-2029 season, so it means you can’t use either pick in another trade until that point.

DingleJerry · Post #1935 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:57 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:I’m not even a huge Sexton fan, but I’d say the odds of him being a better player than whoever might be around in the 2029 lottery are pretty good odds.

And this one gets to play next to prime Giannis when we actually have a shot at a title, the other doesn't.

Fotis St · Post #1936 » by **Fotis St** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:57 pm

ackypoo wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is a hilarious act to downgrade Bobby's trade value or something... Fun fact and a actual answer at the above tweet ...

Portis didn't even attempt an unassisted 3 for 3 years ...
0 unassisted 3p attempts

We love you Bobby Bobby Bobby ...
Horst don't you dare touch Portis

Maybe, just maybe ... Sexton is a piece for a Dame to Bucks trade :hug:

DanoMac · Post #1937 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:00 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
DanoMac wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Sexton is not a better 3P shooter. Higher percentage on far fewer attempts, sure, but Rozier is superior from deep

Haha what? You can't say a dude's a better 3P shooter because he takes more attempts. Rozier also averaged 12 more MPG last season with Sexton still coming off an ACL. Would you say Giannis is a better 3P shooter too?

Can you also show me where Rozier is superior in the C&S? Because NBA.com would disagree with you

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612762&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612766&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

Was talking career numbers, Rozier was forced into a playmaking role a lot of last year. 2019-2021 he was among the best C&S guys. I like Sexton, not trying to start anything, friend.

You, me, hell in a cell

Matches Malone · Post #1938 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:01 pm

DanoMac wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
DanoMac wrote:
Haha what? You can't say a dude's a better 3P shooter because he takes more attempts. Rozier also averaged 12 more MPG last season with Sexton still coming off an ACL. Would you say Giannis is a better 3P shooter too?

Can you also show me where Rozier is superior in the C&S? Because NBA.com would disagree with you

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612762&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular+Season&TeamID=1610612766&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1

Was talking career numbers, Rozier was forced into a playmaking role a lot of last year. 2019-2021 he was among the best C&S guys. I like Sexton, not trying to start anything, friend.

You, me, hell in a cell

No, DAN! NOOOOO

BAW GAWD RIOT PUNCH IS BROKEN IN HALF

slos · Post #1939 » by **slos** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:03 pm

Allen + 2027 SRP for Tyus Jones is the trade that SHOULD happen at this point. I would be willing to add another 2nd but unfortunately we don’t have any after that Crowder trade and I’m not willing to part from 2024 POR SRP which will be in the early 30s. Obviously I’m not giving up any 1st this seasons for reasons I have explained.

Horst needs to pull this off. Talk Washington into starting Poole at PG to completely suck and secure a Top 5 pick while opening a path for Davis and Coulibaly. Sign the rookies, stay under the 2nd tax apron and call it a day.

Jrue/Jones
Beauchamp/Beasley/Jackson
Middleton/Connaughton
Giannis/Crowder/Livingston
BroLo/Portis/RoLo

Shaffty · Post #1940 » by **Shaffty** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:04 pm

emunney wrote:Neither one of those guys is the type of player we need and trading rotation players for either one of them would be a classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

what? what type of player do you think we need then?