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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#821 » by Ben » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:46 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Trequevon Smith off the bench is gonna be a huge pick up for us. He new improved shake. But wayyy better.


Man, do his college stats suck. Under 40% from the floor for his career. and a TS% last year of under 50%. That's like crazily bad for an aspiring NBA guard.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#822 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:50 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Trequevon Smith off the bench is gonna be a huge pick up for us. He new improved shake. But wayyy better.

Based off what, exactly?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#823 » by Arsenal » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:59 pm

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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Trequevon Smith off the bench is gonna be a huge pick up for us. He new improved shake. But wayyy better.


Man, do his college stats suck. Under 40% from the floor for his career. and a TS% last year of under 50%. That's like crazily bad for an aspiring NBA guard.


True but that's primarily because of bad shot selection as the guy chucks like crazy, including from 3. If Nurse can get that under control there could be something there since he's a very good shooter when not taking bad shots.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#824 » by Arsenal » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:02 pm

I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#825 » by Slacktard » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:08 pm

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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Trequevon Smith off the bench is gonna be a huge pick up for us. He new improved shake. But wayyy better.


Man, do his college stats suck. Under 40% from the floor for his career. and a TS% last year of under 50%. That's like crazily bad for an aspiring NBA guard.


his college stats and watching him looks like a discount Gilbert Arenas who has *NO ABILITY* to drive the lane and get to the foul line. Something which is pretty crucial for chuckers.

Iverson and Arenas were 'chuckers' , but their games also saw them drive the lane and get to the FT line a lot... Plus both had a level of passing to supplement their games as well.
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Post#826 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:12 pm

Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?


I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Models game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#827 » by Arsenal » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:20 pm

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Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?


I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Model's game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.


Definitely. He's the guy I wanted from HOU in case of a Harden S&T there. Great contract also that gives the team protection as I believe only $6M is guaranteed in 2024-25.
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Post#828 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:27 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?


I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Model's game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.


Definitely. He's the guy I wanted from HOU in case of a Harden S&T there. Great contract also that gives the team protection as I believe only $6M is guaranteed in 2024-25.


Even if we decide to keep Harden, I feel like there's still an opportunity to get him. He's now lost his starting spot to Brooks, VanVleet and obviously Green is going to start. Whether it's from a Tobias trade or something around Melton (who would be exceptional for what Houston is trying to do), I think we could find a way to make it work.

It would also make the Harden departure next summer hurt less as Porter is a guy who is a Harden fanboy and would try to absorb as much as he can from James. His C&S ability also allows him to play with James.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#829 » by Arsenal » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:31 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Model's game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.


Definitely. He's the guy I wanted from HOU in case of a Harden S&T there. Great contract also that gives the team protection as I believe only $6M is guaranteed in 2024-25.


Even if we decide to keep Harden, I feel like there's still an opportunity to get him. He's now lost his starting spot to Brooks, VanVleet and obviously Green is going to start. Whether it's from a Tobias trade or something around Melton (who would be exceptional for what Houston is trying to do), I think we could find a way to make it work.

It would also make the Harden departure next summer hurt less as Porter is a guy who is a Harden fanboy and would try to absorb as much as he can from James. His C&S ability also allows him to play with James.


Yes, I'd trade Melton for Porter straight up. Porter has a chance to break out and become very valuable on a relative bargain of a contract. Whereas I doubt we'll be able to retain Melton next summer. So we should get value for him now.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#830 » by Ben » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:32 pm

In addition to JaMychal Green, who I mentioned a little while ago, how about Javonte Green for an inexpensive (hopefully) bench guard? Pretty good defensive wing who can also shoot the 3 decently.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#831 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:38 pm

We ain't trading harden ..
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#832 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:41 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We ain't trading harden ..


What a deep, wholesome, groundbreaking, philosophical answer.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#833 » by youngcrev » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:He's an rfa, it's an offer sheet. Sixers can do one too if they want. Gotta see if Portland will match.


God I hope not.


Don't worry. That's not at all how offer sheets work
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#834 » by FireMorey » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:59 pm

Zach Lowe says the Clippers have yet to offer Mann or picks in any offer for Harden and possibly have not even offered Powell.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#835 » by Monix » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:59 pm

Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?

There is no evidence of Barrett improving to this point, he's the same player he was as a rookie. His extension numbers aren't earthshattering, but at this point his upside looks like Golden State Wiggins-lite
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Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?


I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Models game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.

He's had issues everywhere he's been - USC, Cleveland and Houston not including the drug and gun charges that were dropped in Cleveland after a car accident. All signs point to him being a clown.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#836 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:03 pm

Sixers need to stop lolligaging on these rumors with the keep members they have no desire to trade and focus on getting some upgrades such as a starting forward to move Tucker to bench and a reliable back up C. This Lillard B's is annoying I want his trade to happen already and get it over with .. anywhere but here...
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Post#837 » by Ben » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:15 pm

At C, Mo Bamba signed yet and he can shoot 3s and block shots. Something to distinguish him from other backup Cs. I have to guess he'll get a decent deal somewhere...

We're not realistically going to get Bobi here again but man I loved that guy while he was here.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#838 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:15 pm

Monix wrote:
Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?

There is no evidence of Barrett improving to this point, he's the same player he was as a rookie. His extension numbers aren't earthshattering, but at this point his upside looks like Golden State Wiggins-lite
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Arsenal wrote:I'd have to seriously consider targeting a young talent that hasn't broken out yet in a Harden trade.

Someone like RJ Barrett. The guy is just going to be 23 next year and is coming off a down year so may not cost an arm and a leg to acquire. I could see him having a Jaylen Brown-like trajectory and seriously improving into an impact wing over the next few years.

Any other players like that we should consider?


I mentioned him before, but unless he's a complete nutcase, Kevin Porter Jr is definitely worth considering imo. Huge PG, blue chip pedigree, percentages are legit now (50% 2FG, 37% 3FG, 78% FT), STL% at 2.0, TOV% has dropped each year.

Very good C&S player. Models game after Harden, but isn't to his level. Has excellent handles. Needs to keep adding weight.

Only question is his off court issues. Not sure if that's been resolved, but the talent is definitely there.

He's had issues everywhere he's been - USC, Cleveland and Houston not including the drug and gun charges that were dropped in Cleveland after a car accident. All signs point to him being a clown.


That's fair, but I also keep in mind that he's just now 23 and hasn't really been in trouble since Cleveland. He has gotten into it with coaches, as you've linked in your post, but that's somewhat forgivable particularly on a young team with no direction. He'd likely have to prove his worth to have any kind of clout on this team to where he can get in verbal altercations with coaches.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#839 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:24 pm

FireMorey wrote:Zach Lowe says the Clippers have yet to offer Mann or picks in any offer for Harden and possibly have not even offered Powell.


GTFO LA
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#840 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:25 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Zach Lowe says the Clippers have yet to offer Mann or picks in any offer for Harden and possibly have not even offered Powell.


GTFO LA



Yeah because all this harden speculation is smoke. Morey,Harden and the 76ers cast is just toying with the media for fun..

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