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Post#81 » by shadrock » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:07 am

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Post#82 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Jul 6, 2023 4:00 am

That came out of left field...the guy has essentially never spoken to the media and he is GM now?

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Post#84 » by eyriq » Thu Jul 6, 2023 7:06 am

How would y'all describe the Hammond era?
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Post#85 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 7:08 am

eyriq wrote:How would y'all describe the Hammond era?



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Post#88 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:08 am




:rofl:

guy lives my dreams :lol:

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Post#89 » by basketballRob » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:50 am

Wepark era.

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Post#90 » by Knightro » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:22 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:That came out of left field...the guy has essentially never spoken to the media and he is GM now?


Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.
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Post#91 » by Knightro » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:03 pm

Knightro wrote:Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.


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Post#92 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:43 pm

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Knightro wrote:Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.


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Did he learn all Weltman's tricks like how never answer any question and how to talk for 15 min without saying anything?
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Post#93 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Jul 6, 2023 2:48 pm

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Knightro wrote:
Knightro wrote:Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.


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Did he learn all Weltman's tricks like how never answer any question and how to talk for 15 min without saying anything?



That's pretty much prerequisite for execs in all industries lol.
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Post#94 » by Furinkazan » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:13 pm

lol


Magic headed for doom after promoting former Kings “worst GM in history”

This Wednesday, the Orlando Magic made a terrible mistake that only Sacramento Kings fans can see coming. The Magic promoted former Kings GM Pete D’Alessandro to executive vice president of basketball, according to ESPN. Since 2017, D’Alessandro served as the assistant GM for the Magic.

Fans know Pete D’Alessandro as a harrowing name from a dark time in Kings’ history. D’Alessandro served as GM for Sacramento from 2013-15, making some infamously poor decisions during that time.

The D’Alessandro era in Sacramento was so poorly run that Pete literally was asking fans their ideas on how to run the team in a Reddit thread. Being called the “worst GM in NBA history” by many fans, we have just one message to fans of the Orlando Magic: we understand your pain. We are sorry.

Here are a couple of things Magic fans can get not-so-excited about.
The firing of a world-class head coach

Infamously, D’Alessandro decided to fire then-head coach Mike Malone in December 2014, the first half of the season. Malone, who is now an NBA champion with the Denver Nuggets, led the Kings to a great start of the season with a record of 9-5, playing ahead of expectations set by previous years. Unfortunately, a freak illness of viral meningitis then caused superstar Demarcus Cousins to miss nine games leading up to Malone’s firing.

The loss of Cousins obviously stunted that part of a season where everything seemed to be going right, so the decision to fire Malone was inexcusable.

Malone told this to USA Today in 2016 about his firing:

“It never needed to happen. We were headed in the right direction, and you always wonder, ‘What if?’”

You do have to wonder – what if? Malone, who has led the Denver Nuggets to domination in the west over the past few years, could easily have pulled the Kings out of their playoff drought early.
D’Alessandro passed up fantastic prospects in the draft

Continuing on the trend of poor decisions from D’Alessandro, the 2014 draft is a night to forget for Kings fans. After passing up on names like Zach Levine, Jusuf Nurkic, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and now-superstar Nikola Jokic (to be fair to Pete, everyone passed up on Jokic), D’Alessandro selected Nik Stauskas.

Nik Stauskas was a good shooter at the time, but just not what Sacramento needed, and fans had a poor reaction to his pick.

Stauskas was never notable for the Kings, averaging only 4.4 points per game in his only season with the Kings before being traded to the Philadelphia 76ers the following summer. Stauskas has since played overseas and returned to the NBA, but is rarely making appearances.
Orlando Magic are headed for doom

The Orlando Magic, while historically had some NBA legends, are not a great team right now. They have missed the playoffs for the past three years, and have not won a series since 2010 (which, ironically, is still more than the Kings in that time).

There just doesn’t seem to be much direction in the Orlando front office, and with his final act as assistant GM to waive fan-favorite Bol Bol, you have to feel sorry for Magic fans for the next few years. Hopefully D’Alessandro has learned from his past and can improve the Magic, for their own sake.
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Post#95 » by Skybox » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:28 pm

Furinkazan wrote:lol


Magic headed for doom after promoting former Kings “worst GM in history”

This Wednesday, the Orlando Magic made a terrible mistake that only Sacramento Kings fans can see coming. The Magic promoted former Kings GM Pete D’Alessandro to executive vice president of basketball, according to ESPN. Since 2017, D’Alessandro served as the assistant GM for the Magic.

Fans know Pete D’Alessandro as a harrowing name from a dark time in Kings’ history. D’Alessandro served as GM for Sacramento from 2013-15, making some infamously poor decisions during that time.

The D’Alessandro era in Sacramento was so poorly run that Pete literally was asking fans their ideas on how to run the team in a Reddit thread. Being called the “worst GM in NBA history” by many fans, we have just one message to fans of the Orlando Magic: we understand your pain. We are sorry.

Here are a couple of things Magic fans can get not-so-excited about.
The firing of a world-class head coach

Infamously, D’Alessandro decided to fire then-head coach Mike Malone in December 2014, the first half of the season. Malone, who is now an NBA champion with the Denver Nuggets, led the Kings to a great start of the season with a record of 9-5, playing ahead of expectations set by previous years. Unfortunately, a freak illness of viral meningitis then caused superstar Demarcus Cousins to miss nine games leading up to Malone’s firing.

The loss of Cousins obviously stunted that part of a season where everything seemed to be going right, so the decision to fire Malone was inexcusable.

Malone told this to USA Today in 2016 about his firing:

“It never needed to happen. We were headed in the right direction, and you always wonder, ‘What if?’”

You do have to wonder – what if? Malone, who has led the Denver Nuggets to domination in the west over the past few years, could easily have pulled the Kings out of their playoff drought early.
D’Alessandro passed up fantastic prospects in the draft

Continuing on the trend of poor decisions from D’Alessandro, the 2014 draft is a night to forget for Kings fans. After passing up on names like Zach Levine, Jusuf Nurkic, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and now-superstar Nikola Jokic (to be fair to Pete, everyone passed up on Jokic), D’Alessandro selected Nik Stauskas.

Nik Stauskas was a good shooter at the time, but just not what Sacramento needed, and fans had a poor reaction to his pick.

Stauskas was never notable for the Kings, averaging only 4.4 points per game in his only season with the Kings before being traded to the Philadelphia 76ers the following summer. Stauskas has since played overseas and returned to the NBA, but is rarely making appearances.
Orlando Magic are headed for doom

The Orlando Magic, while historically had some NBA legends, are not a great team right now. They have missed the playoffs for the past three years, and have not won a series since 2010 (which, ironically, is still more than the Kings in that time).

There just doesn’t seem to be much direction in the Orlando front office, and with his final act as assistant GM to waive fan-favorite Bol Bol, you have to feel sorry for Magic fans for the next few years. Hopefully D’Alessandro has learned from his past and can improve the Magic, for their own sake.


I certainly can't/won't try to defend the guy's record in SAC...but, as far as Stauskas goes - the whole world watched that foolishness unfold with Vivek (who is arguably the worst/most meddling owner in NBA history) walking around the war room, with a s**t-eating smile, confirming that all the FO guys were on board with "Stauskas", "It's Stauskas?, "Stauskas, right?".

That was a bad era, when Vivek was really reveling in his new toy, suggesting game plans (defend 4 vs 5 and have a "cherry picker" at half-court for freebies")...Vlade Divac made a lot of money and took a lot of heat for his period of just nodding and agreeing with the Boss.
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Post#96 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:50 pm

Skybox wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:lol


Magic headed for doom after promoting former Kings “worst GM in history”

This Wednesday, the Orlando Magic made a terrible mistake that only Sacramento Kings fans can see coming. The Magic promoted former Kings GM Pete D’Alessandro to executive vice president of basketball, according to ESPN. Since 2017, D’Alessandro served as the assistant GM for the Magic.

Fans know Pete D’Alessandro as a harrowing name from a dark time in Kings’ history. D’Alessandro served as GM for Sacramento from 2013-15, making some infamously poor decisions during that time.

The D’Alessandro era in Sacramento was so poorly run that Pete literally was asking fans their ideas on how to run the team in a Reddit thread. Being called the “worst GM in NBA history” by many fans, we have just one message to fans of the Orlando Magic: we understand your pain. We are sorry.

Here are a couple of things Magic fans can get not-so-excited about.
The firing of a world-class head coach

Infamously, D’Alessandro decided to fire then-head coach Mike Malone in December 2014, the first half of the season. Malone, who is now an NBA champion with the Denver Nuggets, led the Kings to a great start of the season with a record of 9-5, playing ahead of expectations set by previous years. Unfortunately, a freak illness of viral meningitis then caused superstar Demarcus Cousins to miss nine games leading up to Malone’s firing.

The loss of Cousins obviously stunted that part of a season where everything seemed to be going right, so the decision to fire Malone was inexcusable.

Malone told this to USA Today in 2016 about his firing:

“It never needed to happen. We were headed in the right direction, and you always wonder, ‘What if?’”

You do have to wonder – what if? Malone, who has led the Denver Nuggets to domination in the west over the past few years, could easily have pulled the Kings out of their playoff drought early.
D’Alessandro passed up fantastic prospects in the draft

Continuing on the trend of poor decisions from D’Alessandro, the 2014 draft is a night to forget for Kings fans. After passing up on names like Zach Levine, Jusuf Nurkic, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and now-superstar Nikola Jokic (to be fair to Pete, everyone passed up on Jokic), D’Alessandro selected Nik Stauskas.

Nik Stauskas was a good shooter at the time, but just not what Sacramento needed, and fans had a poor reaction to his pick.

Stauskas was never notable for the Kings, averaging only 4.4 points per game in his only season with the Kings before being traded to the Philadelphia 76ers the following summer. Stauskas has since played overseas and returned to the NBA, but is rarely making appearances.
Orlando Magic are headed for doom

The Orlando Magic, while historically had some NBA legends, are not a great team right now. They have missed the playoffs for the past three years, and have not won a series since 2010 (which, ironically, is still more than the Kings in that time).

There just doesn’t seem to be much direction in the Orlando front office, and with his final act as assistant GM to waive fan-favorite Bol Bol, you have to feel sorry for Magic fans for the next few years. Hopefully D’Alessandro has learned from his past and can improve the Magic, for their own sake.


I certainly can't/won't try to defend the guy's record in SAC...but, as far as Stauskas goes - the whole world watched that foolishness unfold with Vivek (who is arguably the worst/most meddling owner in NBA history) walking around the war room, with a s**t-eating smile, confirming that all the FO guys were on board with "Stauskas", "It's Stauskas?, "Stauskas, right?".

That was a bad era, when Vivek was really reveling in his new toy, suggesting game plans (defend 4 vs 5 and have a "cherry picker" at half-court for freebies")...Vlade Divac made a lot of money and took a lot of heat for his period of just nodding and agreeing with the Boss.



I read that and laughed. Clear sour grapes from the Sac fan case. Its was obvious from that video that Vivek stepped in and told them to draft Stauskas, they had to go along with it, they can't publicly go against the owner. I don't think Alessandro is that great or anything like that but he has been here for 6 years and was a former GM so that's not surprising he got promoted, it doesn't spell doom lol.
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Post#97 » by zaymon » Thu Jul 6, 2023 4:46 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:lol




I certainly can't/won't try to defend the guy's record in SAC...but, as far as Stauskas goes - the whole world watched that foolishness unfold with Vivek (who is arguably the worst/most meddling owner in NBA history) walking around the war room, with a s**t-eating smile, confirming that all the FO guys were on board with "Stauskas", "It's Stauskas?, "Stauskas, right?".

That was a bad era, when Vivek was really reveling in his new toy, suggesting game plans (defend 4 vs 5 and have a "cherry picker" at half-court for freebies")...Vlade Divac made a lot of money and took a lot of heat for his period of just nodding and agreeing with the Boss.



I read that and laughed. Clear sour grapes from the Sac fan case. Its was obvious from that video that Vivek stepped in and told them to draft Stauskas, they had to go along with it, they can't publicly go against the owner. I don't think Alessandro is that great or anything like that but he has been here for 6 years and was a former GM so that's not surprising he got promoted, it doesn't spell doom lol.


D’Alessandro was not a good decision maker, but he is here as cap expert, analyst. Thats totally different tasks. He can be bad gm and good assistant gm at the same time.
I think our management of the cap has been stellar last few years. We dont overpay, we construct creative contracts. As long as he doesnt run the draft and pick free agents we are ok.
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Post#98 » by fendilim » Thu Jul 6, 2023 4:49 pm

Knightro wrote:
Knightro wrote:Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.


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Is he even making the decisions? Sounds like everything is run through Weltman, and need to have Weltman’s approval, tbh. Its just a change of title and salary for AP.
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Post#99 » by bigdogdylan5 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 6:07 pm

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Knightro wrote:
Knightro wrote:Yeah I mean other than doing some radio interviews, most of them with the Magic's own pregame/postgame radio host, Hammond didn't really talk to the media either.

The general manager is third in command in this front office setup anyway behind Weltman and D'Alessandro.


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Is he even making the decisions? Sounds like everything is run through Weltman, and need to have Weltman’s approval, tbh. Its just a change of title and salary for AP.

I mean you would think the GM handles most of the negotiations and day to day stuff bringing things to the PBO for approval. So yea we still have the guy that makes the final decision but the principal advisor has changed. I do love the idea of having a former player really high up in the decision making process to have that perspective. I think some stuff will change because we have a different person providing inputs to Weltman
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Post#100 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Jul 6, 2023 6:17 pm

Wait, what are we trying to figure out. You all lost me.

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