Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade

[JRoy]

I would think if there was a trade for Dame by Toronto, it would probably be something more plug and play, like OG, Boucher, Thad, Flynn, Wieskamp, 3 frps and swaps.

PG: Lillard, Schroeder, Dowtin
SG: Trent Jr., Dick, Harper Jr
SF: Barnes, McDaniels
PF: Siakam, Achiuwa, Porter
C: Poetl, Koloko

I'm not overly thrilled by it though, I could see it causing problems on offense, despite the lack of some shooting, defense would be tough up front.... but I don't see it coming out of the East. Who knows though, anything is possible.

It’s possible but I wouldn’t do this trade. Another soon to be overpaid non star seems a bad way to start a rebuild.

I think many teams would be hard pressed to beat that. Still, I'm not overly impressed for the Raptors end.

Raptors could send OG to a team that's ready to compete in OKC for Jalen, Wallace, Bertans pick with all of that plus filler picks going to Portland - however, I think I'd want that OKC deal for the Raptors lol.

Personally, I still think Utah is the key. Trade Herro to Utah for Hendricks, Oly, 2025 - Miami gets Lillard, Nurkic, 2025 (opens the rest of their picks), Portland gets Hendricks, Jovic, Jaquez, Oly, Lowry, 2024, 2026, 2028, 2030, 3 swaps.

Can't think of a better deal than that.

That’s a lot better than most offers ive seen on this site.

[Raps Next GM]

POR is not sending out the best player and Sharpe for a return that will get to win 35 games and then get to pay Siakam.

If there is a number lower than zero, that is POR interest in this offer.

Very Fair, thanks. In trying to consider all factors, I forgot the massive Siakam expiring contract issue.

From Portland’s perspective I didn’t want to include Sharpe but then why for Raptors? I had to give them reason to deal Siakam and Herro & Lowry aren’t enough.

That’s a fair point Siakam is worth more than than that. Maybe send him to NOP for DD, TM and CJ?

Doesn’t excite me for Toronto. It also depletes the Pelican’s backcourt and do they want to do that to add Siakam to a front court that already has Zion and Ingram? Seems to create a void for a luxury IMO.

[JRoy]

Very Fair, thanks. In trying to consider all factors, I forgot the massive Siakam expiring contract issue.

From Portland’s perspective I didn’t want to include Sharpe but then why for Raptors? I had to give them reason to deal Siakam and Herro & Lowry aren’t enough.

That’s a fair point Siakam is worth more than than that. Maybe send him to NOP for DD, TM and CJ?

Doesn’t excite me for Toronto. It also depletes the Pelican’s backcourt and do they want to do that to add Siakam to a front court that already has Zion and Ingram? Seems to create a void for a luxury IMO.

That is reasonable. I thought TOR might value that high potential NOP youth.

NOP has to be waking up to the fact that Fat Thor is not the future.

[WuTang_CMB]

I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.

[Raptors Realtor]

I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.

Ya I wouldn't mind getting Maxey here, but at what cost... Barnes or OG?... I'd probably do OG, but not sure I'd do Barnes.

[WuTang_CMB]

I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.

Ya I wouldn't mind getting Maxey here, but at what cost... Barnes or OG?... I'd probably do OG, but not sure I'd do Barnes.

I dont think there's a deal to be had for us and philly.

[Pointgod]

Come on now. Go look at his numbers last year. They are absurd.

Dame/Schroder
GTJ/Dick
OG/McDaniels
Pascal/Precious
Poeltl/Koloko

That team matches up well with anyone in the east. We all watched the playoffs this year, right? We aren’t talking about having to beat the Jordan Bulls here.

I would think if there was a trade for Dame by Toronto, it would probably be something more plug and play, like OG, Boucher, Thad, Flynn, Wieskamp, 3 frps and swaps.

PG: Lillard, Schroeder, Dowtin
SG: Trent Jr., Dick, Harper Jr
SF: Barnes, McDaniels
PF: Siakam, Achiuwa, Porter
C: Poetl, Koloko

I'm not overly thrilled by it though, I could see it causing problems on offense, despite the lack of some shooting, defense would be tough up front.... but I don't see it coming out of the East. Who knows though, anything is possible.

It’s possible but I wouldn’t do this trade. Another soon to be overpaid non star seems a bad way to start a rebuild.

What’s the word on what Portland is trying to get out of a Dame trade? You looking for a clean cap sheet with picks? Looking to get some win now players like Utah did when they traded Mitchell? I’m genuinely curious how the team is looking at it.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[earth007]

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

Absolutely agree.
I’m still not convinced that Scottie will ever reach his potential but it is immense! Trading someone like him is the kind of moves teams rue for years.
Adding Lillard makes the Raptors one of the East contenders but by no means are they head and shoulders above the others, and in fact I see them as 4th-ish, maybe 3rd if all works out well.

Dame puts the Raptors in the mix to be a competitive first round opponent. That's it.

Yeah, and lol at people who think Dame is anywhere close to Kawhi. Kawhi is once in a generation Robot, and Dame is about a notch above someone like Pascal. Also we gave up nothing in value to get Kawhi. Losing Scottie to be playoff fodder to Boston or Milwaukee is just moronic.

[mrdressup]

Unless you are on the doorstep of contending you want nothing to do with guys who demand to be traded to one specific team with multiple years left on their contract.

[JRoy]

I would think if there was a trade for Dame by Toronto, it would probably be something more plug and play, like OG, Boucher, Thad, Flynn, Wieskamp, 3 frps and swaps.

PG: Lillard, Schroeder, Dowtin
SG: Trent Jr., Dick, Harper Jr
SF: Barnes, McDaniels
PF: Siakam, Achiuwa, Porter
C: Poetl, Koloko

I'm not overly thrilled by it though, I could see it causing problems on offense, despite the lack of some shooting, defense would be tough up front.... but I don't see it coming out of the East. Who knows though, anything is possible.

It’s possible but I wouldn’t do this trade. Another soon to be overpaid non star seems a bad way to start a rebuild.

What’s the word on what Portland is trying to get out of a Dame trade? You looking for a clean cap sheet with picks? Looking to get some win now players like Utah did when they traded Mitchell? I’m genuinely curious how the team is looking at it.

Picks and youth, tradable contracts.

Highly paid vets are not on the menu.

[will]

Dame really trying to force his way to Miami.

IF not, a team is going to get an unhappy player.

Well, if Dame were to rip up his current contract, would that not make him free to sign with whoever he wants?

[KL78192020]

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Feel like the Pelicans could be a good fit, they still have 2 future picks from the Bucks, 1 from the Lakers and their own picks. Young players in Herb Jones, Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Jordan Hawkins. They could use CJ to send back as a matching salary, who Blazers can flip for more assets. Pelicans want to win and have a need at PG, not to many other teams in that position.

Any combination of those should be a good deal for the Blazers

[Pointgod]

It’s possible but I wouldn’t do this trade. Another soon to be overpaid non star seems a bad way to start a rebuild.

What’s the word on what Portland is trying to get out of a Dame trade? You looking for a clean cap sheet with picks? Looking to get some win now players like Utah did when they traded Mitchell? I’m genuinely curious how the team is looking at it.

Picks and youth, tradable contracts.

Highly paid vets are not on the menu.

So a clean reset is what they’re looking for. I guess the idea is to give the keys to Scoot (right idea) and bottom out for a couple years.

[JRoy]

What’s the word on what Portland is trying to get out of a Dame trade? You looking for a clean cap sheet with picks? Looking to get some win now players like Utah did when they traded Mitchell? I’m genuinely curious how the team is looking at it.

Picks and youth, tradable contracts.

Highly paid vets are not on the menu.

So a clean reset is what they’re looking for. I guess the idea is to give the keys to Scoot (right idea) and bottom out for a couple years.

That seems to be the idea.

A few good vets to keep the kids on the right track and hopefully a hard look at the coaching staff.

The Grant signing is a still mystery to me.

[Pointgod]

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Feel like the Pelicans could be a good fit, they still have 2 future picks from the Bucks, 1 from the Lakers and their own picks. Young players in Herb Jones, Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Jordan Hawkins. They could use CJ to send back as a matching salary, who Blazers can flip for more assets. Pelicans want to win and have a need at PG, not to many other teams in that position.

Any combination of those should be a good deal for the Blazers

There’s no way that Blazers take back CJ in a trade. Any trade that has another starting guard coming back is a no go frankly. CJ would have to get rerouted to another team because there’s no way the trade math makes sense without his contract, but the Pelicans do have the assets to make a strong offer.

[Pointgod]

Picks and youth, tradable contracts.

Highly paid vets are not on the menu.

So a clean reset is what they’re looking for. I guess the idea is to give the keys to Scoot (right idea) and bottom out for a couple years.

That seems to be the idea.

A few good vets to keep the kids on the right track and hopefully a hard look at the coaching staff.

The Grant signing is a still mystery to me.

I didn’t want to bring that one up because it might be a sore spot but yeah lol WTF was your front office thinking? One possible reason is just to keep the asset and then you can flip him during the season but I feel like there’s a very limited number of teams that can give a first round pick and take on Grant’s contract without going into the tax and limiting their future.

[mihaic]

If Portland got a package with Raps picks and og, and flipped og for more picks (suposedly 2 or 3 picks were offered for him), wouldn't that be good for the Blazers?

Edit: not that it's gonna happen, Dame won't want to come here.

[2019nbachamps]

Dame really trying to force his way to Miami.

IF not, a team is going to get an unhappy player.

Well, if Dame were to rip up his current contract, would that not make him free to sign with whoever he wants?

He’s a hypocrite and showing his true colours.

He went from saying winning a title isn’t everything to wanting to compete for a title only on one team. If he’s serious about winning, why not be open to other legit contenders?

He basically wanted a super max and the ability to choose his next destination. AKA get the benefit of bird rights and free agency.

I don’t mind him saying he wants to compete, but then why resign with the Trail Blazers just one year ago? And if it’s all about competing, why not consider like 5-10 other teams out there that would have a title shot with him?

His whole process in this charade was a joke. He met the Trail Blazers last Monday and they left off with agreeing to give the team more time to make some moves. Then less than 24 hours after free agency opens, he requests a trade. Way to show you truly want to remain a Trail Blazer.

[will]

Dame really trying to force his way to Miami.

IF not, a team is going to get an unhappy player.

Well, if Dame were to rip up his current contract, would that not make him free to sign with whoever he wants?

He’s a hypocrite and showing his true colours.

He went from saying winning a title isn’t everything to wanting to compete for a title only on one team. If he’s serious about winning, why not be open to other legit contenders?

He basically wanted a super max and the ability to choose his next destination. AKA get the benefit of bird rights and free agency.

I don’t mind him saying he wants to compete, but then why resign with the Trail Blazers just one year ago? And if it’s all about competing, why not consider like 5-10 other teams out there that would have a title shot with him?

His whole process in this charade was a joke. He met the Trail Blazers last Monday and they left off with agreeing to give the team more time to make some moves. Then less than 24 hours after free agency opens, he requests a trade. Way to show you truly want to remain a Trail Blazer.

He mad seeing what Brad Beal pulled off