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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#781 » by JRoy » Fri Jul 7, 2023 12:10 am

mihaic wrote:If Portland got a package with Raps picks and og, and flipped og for more picks (suposedly 2 or 3 picks were offered for him), wouldn't that be good for the Blazers?

Edit: not that it's gonna happen, Dame won't want to come here.


No.

Who is giving up multiple picks for an expiring contract?

And no, not close.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#782 » by mihaic » Fri Jul 7, 2023 2:51 am

JRoy wrote:
mihaic wrote:If Portland got a package with Raps picks and og, and flipped og for more picks (suposedly 2 or 3 picks were offered for him), wouldn't that be good for the Blazers?

Edit: not that it's gonna happen, Dame won't want to come here.


No.

Who is giving up multiple picks for an expiring contract?

And no, not close.


Fair enough I guess we should first extend OG like Atlanta did for DjM
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#783 » by JRoy » Fri Jul 7, 2023 3:02 am

mihaic wrote:
JRoy wrote:
mihaic wrote:If Portland got a package with Raps picks and og, and flipped og for more picks (suposedly 2 or 3 picks were offered for him), wouldn't that be good for the Blazers?

Edit: not that it's gonna happen, Dame won't want to come here.


No.

Who is giving up multiple picks for an expiring contract?

And no, not close.


Fair enough I guess we should first extend OG like Atlanta did for DjM


If the intent is to compete, maybe you should.

But he will be expensive and he will want more shots but can’t really do much but catch and shoot.

Is he worth what he will want?
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#784 » by Raps Next GM » Fri Jul 7, 2023 3:05 am

earth007 wrote:Yeah, and lol at people who think Dame is anywhere close to Kawhi.


To be fair, that 2019 team was so much better than this year’s lineup. The depth was outstanding.
It’s what irks me most when I hear US media try to asterisk the title or imply that it was only because of Kawhi. That was an excellent team as evidenced by their record that year when Kawhi was out and the following year when they had an even better regular season.

Even 2019 version of Kawhi would be limited by the supporting cast in Toronto this season.

2019nbachamps wrote:He went from saying winning a title isn’t everything


In his defence, going to Miami still suggests that winning a title isn’t everything. If it was, there are better options to go to. IMO he has a better shot at a ring in Boston or even Philly.

But I agree completely with your overall point.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#785 » by C_Money » Fri Jul 7, 2023 3:11 am

JRoy wrote:
mihaic wrote:
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No.

Who is giving up multiple picks for an expiring contract?

And no, not close.


Fair enough I guess we should first extend OG like Atlanta did for DjM


If the intent is to compete, maybe you should.

But he will be expensive and he will want more shots but can’t really do much but catch and shoot.

Is he worth what he will want?


No. Seems obvious to me we should trade him but it doesn’t look like thats happening.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#786 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Jul 7, 2023 3:27 am

Lillard is overrated it's hilarious and he ain't getting any younger
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#787 » by mrdressup » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:29 pm

Agents are now publicly lecturing teams on how to conduct their business with guys they have under contract? Remind me why I watch this crap again? The NBA is a farce and everyone's after a bag and a ring to go.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#788 » by Jadoogar » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:30 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.


i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#789 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:36 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.


i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


For their young timeline Scottie is the best fit. Jalen Brown comes close to the right timeline, but is a bit too old for it to make sense I think.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#790 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:37 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Lillard is overrated it's hilarious and he ain't getting any younger


No one is getting younger but he just had the best scoring year of his career on an insanely efficient 64.5 TS% by taking a lot of 3's and shooting a ton of free throws.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#791 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:40 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.


i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


Cuz he's a young talent and they are rebuilding.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#792 » by Jadoogar » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:43 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.


i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


Cuz he's a young talent and they are rebuilding.


Having too many of the same type of player limits each of their development. It would be hard to get development time for all 4 since they can realistically only play the 1 or the 2.

I would go after a young wing even if he's worse than Maxey in a vacuum.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#793 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:45 pm

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i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


Cuz he's a young talent and they are rebuilding.


Having too many of the same type of player limits each of their development. It would be hard to get development time for all 4 since they can realistically only play the 1 or the 2.

I would go after a young wing even if he's worse than Maxey in a vacuum.


Maxey is the best prospect if made available. Just me but I rather have the better talent then 2-3 guys that dont come close. Can always work out a trade later for fit
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#794 » by brownbobcat » Fri Jul 7, 2023 6:45 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:Lillard is overrated it's hilarious and he ain't getting any younger


No one is getting younger but he just had the best scoring year of his career on an insanely efficient 64.5 TS% by taking a lot of 3's and shooting a ton of free throws.

He's amazing when he plays, but starting to break down like all normal players do. I'd be surprised to see either him or Butler play more than 65 games next year.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#795 » by Tomhomes33 » Fri Jul 7, 2023 7:40 pm

Blazers want 2 quality players and 4 FRP for Lillard

Raptors can offer young prospects : Achiuwa, Trent, 2025,2026,2028 FRP, 2027Swap.

Eventually replace one of these two with OG, but than 2FRP + 2swaps.

I think Blazers would accept it, if mot now then a month from now..and Lillard would play here..but i dont think Massai/Bobby would offer anything like..they prefer to evaluate instead..
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#796 » by AHCanada » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:00 pm

Tomhomes33 wrote:Blazers want 2 quality players and 4 FRP for Lillard

Raptors can offer young prospects : Achiuwa, Trent, 2025,2026,2028 FRP, 2027Swap.

Eventually replace one of these two with OG, but than 2FRP + 2swaps.

I think Blazers would accept it, if mot now then a month from now..and Lillard would play here..but i dont think Massai/Bobby would offer anything like..they prefer to evaluate instead..


I'd love that. If we could keep OG, Scottie, and Pascal... that would be a huge win. Even trading OG instead of one of Achiuwa or Trent would be good enough in my books. The question seems to be how Lillard's attitude and effort would be in Toronto.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#797 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:03 pm

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No.

Who is giving up multiple picks for an expiring contract?

And no, not close.


Fair enough I guess we should first extend OG like Atlanta did for DjM


If the intent is to compete, maybe you should.

But he will be expensive and he will want more shots but can’t really do much but catch and shoot.

Is he worth what he will want?


Still worth it. He's 25 and one of the best defenders in the league. He's has also been a very good and consistent 3 point shooter. At worst if doesn't improve, he's an elite 3 and D guy that any team could use.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#798 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:07 pm

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I thought Morey for sure would be all over Dame. Maxey is super good and has upside, that's exactly what Cronin is looking for.


i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


For their young timeline Scottie is the best fit. Jalen Brown comes close to the right timeline, but is a bit too old for it to make sense I think.


The Raptors are not investing all their time with Barnes this offseason to turn around and trade him for a 33 year old. If also makes zero sense to bring in all the development coaches they brought in. They're not trading Dame for Barnes. Masai is smart enough to know that is not a championship contender
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#799 » by Jadoogar » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:12 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
i'm not sure why portland would want Maxey. They have 2 high potential guards already, why add Maxey to that


For their young timeline Scottie is the best fit. Jalen Brown comes close to the right timeline, but is a bit too old for it to make sense I think.


The Raptors are not investing all their time with Barnes this offseason to turn around and trade him for a 33 year old. If also makes zero sense to bring in all the development coaches they brought in. They're not trading Dame for Barnes. Masai is smart enough to know that is not a championship contender


lol does he know that? His actions are clearly signaling that he thinks the opposite.
why did he throw away a first round pick for poeltl? Why did he refuse to sell high on the vets?

I'm lower on Scottie than most but i would do this trade if the intention is to keep this core (siakam, og, poeltl). At least Dame is a good fit with those guys.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#800 » by Kingsway_fan » Fri Jul 7, 2023 8:13 pm

mrdressup wrote:Agents are now publicly lecturing teams on how to conduct their business with guys they have under contract? Remind me why I watch this crap again? The NBA is a farce and everyone's after a bag and ring to go.


Once Stern left and this clown commissioner took over, it's a joke... so its sign a max contract, then tell the team ... trade me here, and only here?

Commissioner needs to grow a pair... pathetic.
Make any such trade Void... grow a pair you pathetic wimp.

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